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The fallacy of Satanic solidarity. from AK's blog

It cannot be stressed enough: the first step in troubleshooting is 1) understand the problem! This is not the same as merely identifying that there is a problem. No. One must understand what the problem is – how it functions. To know one's enemy.



Among many would be Satanists – especially the green horns – there exists a great deal of angst pertaining to the Abrahamic religions. Often one's Satanism emerges from a vague anti-christian sentiment. That Christianity is a problem to be eradicated from the planet, and it starts here in this coffee-house / forum / WordPress blog / whatever. Many utilize this nameless contempt as means to substantiate their Satanism is if some sort of flag under which to rally; shunning all things Abrahamic as anathema unworthy of consideration. This is as fallacious as Anti-Fa and for precisely the same reasons:



If one were truly against fascism, one would do well to first understand it at least as well as, if not better than, its proponents. The devil can quote scripture for his own use. It is not enough to issue blanket statements against the hypocrisy of religion in the hopes of rallying a small group of internet malcontents to commiserate with the nebulous evils of religion and faith – this is especially so if one does not actually know what they're talking about. The whole “I don't actually know what they represent, I just know it sounds stupid, and their fans are annoying” approach can't even quell the surge of "Beliebers", let alone believers. A religion with centuries of history and theology whose adherents number in hundreds of millions if not billions-with-a-b is clearly doing something right, and the ends of that something is not terribly different than what those “Satanists” who utter such vacuous phrases as “our people” in attempts at unification are attempting to do (for however poorly and misguided)



Knowing and thoroughly understanding the mechanisms behind how that which one is against functions allows one to identify in which ways one's own methods are, in fact, similar – even identical – to the methods one claims to be against. Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Examples:



Anti-Fa operating under the pretext that they stronger together as a cohesive unit – the very premise of Fascism – a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.



The Satanist who complains that their parents won't so much as consider reading the Satanic Bible whose disdain for Christianity prevents them from so much as picking up a bible except only to burn. Or exclaims that God does not answer their prayers, but Azazel totally does, all the while remaining perplexed at how “stupid” people can be to worship a sky-daddy.



Any movement which exists solely to eradicate one thing or another owes its very existence to that very thing it abhors. And here is the conundrum: where would the purely anti-christian Satanist be if ever they were to succeed? Who really needs who? “Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!” is purely tongue-in-cheek, you do realize? It's a vast over-simplification even on a cursory reading. Namely, there is no one “Church” - there's countless denominations and the majority of them view Satan as a sort of minor actor in the grand scheme of things – hardly worth mentioning at all, let alone trifling over; that is unless you're looking to rattle the cages of Pentecostals. Moreover, Satan is a part of their mythology – it doesn't stand on its own, but rather in context of their symbol-set. Utilizing the name just legitimizes their beliefs. Satan really only spooks those people who don't really know much about their own faith to begin with - the non-practicing complacent types who are members of such-and-such a creed in name only. These aren't exactly the pillars of the institution, anyway.



All of this ties back to understanding the problem – something I sincerely doubt the more militantly anti-christian Satanists have the wit to articulate (much less solve) effectively – and this all presumes that said problem is really a problem at all. It sounds to me like so much proselytizing in the name of a total non-issue. Windmills. Paper tigers. In reality, since its inception, “Satanist”, like “Pagan” (or nigger, or faggot for that matter) was never a thing one set-out-to-be. It instead was and has always been a label – a pejorative – given to those from without who had the audacity to do their own thing without concern for, and in direct contradiction with, the judgment of the prevailing moral authority of the time and place – terms for those whose solitary otherness is intrinsic and inherent in ways beyond contrived aspirations, branding, or superficial solidarity with anyone.


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EdMenonymous Member
May 10
Knowing and thoroughly understanding the mechanisms behind how that which one is against functions allows one to identify in which ways one's own methods are, in fact, similar – even identical – to the methods one claims to be against. Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Examples:Knowing and thoroughly understanding the mechanisms behind how that which one is against functions allows one to identify in which ways one's own methods are, in fact, similar – even identical – to th...See more
EdMenonymous Member
May 10
This has to be the source of EdMe's AGROVexation! But what wtf to do? Move out to the remote and copycoat the Uni Bomber? Cause thats what Ed's gonna do when we get the final VERDICT.. TO EUTHANIZE THE KITTY WITHOUT AN OWNER!
Dark Enlightenment
May 10
That's the second time with that platitude. Why? What's wrong with the fire eroding perspective? Is the abyss suppose to teach everyone temperance and self mastery? But then again, I also have a major problem with the concept of crossing it. Leave going clear (crossing the abyss) for the scientologists and self help shit peddlers. The abyss in satanism has as much purpose to the satanist as a prison does for a convicted felon. I say stare long and learn to swim.That's the second time with that platitude. Why? What's wrong with the fire eroding perspective? Is the abyss suppose to teach everyone temperance and self mastery? But then again, I also have a major...See more
AK Mod
May 10
The abyss? Da'ath. Means knowledge. As-in fatal fruit of the tree of. As-in know thy enemy. As-in union of opposites (i.e. knowing in the biblical sense: la petite mort). All well and good from a self-development perspective. Not so for much for the purposes of standing apart from the very thing one seeks to eradicate. Examples of which are: the theistic Satanist who conducts rituals to Goetic demons all the while speaking derisively of those who pray as "talking to imaginary friends". Or those who cling to groups and temples championing in mantra-like fashion "fierce individuality" as opposed to "herd-like conformity".The abyss? Da'ath. Means knowledge. As-in fatal fruit of the tree of. As-in know thy enemy. As-in union of opposites (i.e. knowing in the biblical sense: la petite mort). All well and good from a self...See more
T. Volt
May 10
You know, Vlad Țepeș was a christian.
EpicFail TITS
Jun 7
the focus is on self-empowerment and living THIS life. still, I believe that Christians and Satanists can coexist in silence. IMO they are more afraid of me and my philosophies (they are hardwired to be weary of anything with the word "Satan") but just because they hate what I stand for does not invoke any execration on my end.{{{sorry was up all night and rambling.the focus is on self-empowerment and living THIS life. still, I believe that Christians and Satanists can coexist in silence. IMO they are more afraid of me and my philosophies (they are hardwired to ...See more
T. Volt
Jun 7
Humans do not co-exist in silence.
EpicFail TITS
Jun 7
I do.
Dark Enlightenment
Jun 7
"I believe that Christians and Satanists can coexist in silence. IMO they are more afraid of me and my (thing I call Satanism)."

A silent christian is like a complete catalog of songs in Qatar.

They're not all Episcopalian unfortuneately.
Mutual indifference falters when you encounter the sick ones that consider Satan an enemy they need to fight. The commonality and disturbing thing is the militaristic nature in which they "save the world from itself". In the US, that 1950's "God and Country" bullshit really begat a few generations of outspoken god warriors. But they are good for cannon fodder so what the hell, right?

Anyway, the hardwiring nullifies any chance of silence. It is ingrained to NOT be silent.

But I have a dream that one day people will be vocally criticized for what quantum theory they are partial to and not what god they believe in.
"I believe that Christians and Satanists can coexist in silence. IMO they are more afraid of me and my (thing I call Satanism)."

A silent christian is like a complete catalog ...See more
AK Mod
Jun 7
@EpicFail (EF for short) although coexist comes with all sorts of connotations implying accommodation, tolerance, acceptance, homogeneity, and the like, taken in the literal sense of the word, yes Satanists do coexist with Christians and no amount of blogging or venting will change that. This, of course, is directed toward the types of Satanists who measure their Satanousity
in terms of how militantly opposed to the religions of Abraham they are on paper. The reality is Satan itself is an invention of said religions (unless one argues he was known by other names in other pantheons, but in that case it would make sense to just use that name instead). Because of this, all too often one ends up buying into the very mythos they supposedly reject in the name of rationalizing their choice of mascot. As if routing for Voldemort could be considered an effective way of showing one's distaste in the writings of J.K. Rowling. It is doubtful she would take offense. It is more likely she would thank the reader for their interest while reminding them that he loses in the end. Fans of Harry Potter himself, however, can be quite rabid. So too with fans of JC. This is correspondingly all a “Satanist” can expect to achieve by way of challenging the opinions of the clergy on theistic grounds. One may come to blows with the readership, but it won't stop the presses in any meaningful way.

It is only those who use Satan in a sort of tongue-in-cheek cosmic-joy-buzzer sort of way that manage to get much mileage out of it – even though their motivations and reasoning are often regarded as “out there” - the type of social fuzzing one would find with, say, Boyd Rice's antics, or the Merry Pranskters, or basically anyone who's ever tried and not only loved, but “got” the deconditioning affects of LSD. There are, of course, those who literally worship Satan – but that all hinges on this weird sort of logic that insists that the Abrahamic religions are wrong or lying about everything except the fact that Satan is real... (some insist that he's really an ok guy)

In either case it - “Satanism” is either indifferent to, or contingent upon the Abrahamic mythos as well as its adherents. How it could be used in furtherance of annihilating Christianity is a misguided inquiry. A pulpit to pound often on internet message boards by frustrated and powerless teens and young adults with no real traction in their own lives to speak of.

As with anarchism, there are those who practice it and those who preach it. Those who practice it realize that it can only work on a personal level. The individual anarchist is far more effective in a world with government, laws, orders, and social norms which they ignore in practice. It wouldn't work nearly as well if everyone were doing it. Those who represent anarchism as an ideal for the whole of society to embrace are effective mostly in the realm of writing blogs cook books. So too with “Satanism”.
@EpicFail (EF for short) although coexist comes with all sorts of connotations implying accommodation, tolerance, acceptance, homogeneity, and the like, taken in the literal sense of the word, yes Sat...See more
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