You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You both like Religion.
Stranger: Hi
You: hello
Stranger: What religion?
You: satanism
You: u?
Stranger: Jesusism
Stranger: But not church
Stranger: U think satan is real?
You: im not a theistic satanist
Stranger: Ok. Do u think God is real?
You: im not theistic
Stranger: Ok
Stranger: Then why bring satan ino it
You: its a satire of christian values
Stranger: What's a christian value u disagree with?
You: the condemnation of our beastly nature
You: selfishness
You: greed
You: materialism
Stranger: But would you want to be stuck in a room of selfish people ???
You: i don't think I've ever been stuck in a room with unselfish people
Stranger: But in theory what would u prefer?
Stranger: The company of selfish or selfless
You: selfless people are very rare because they die of self neglect
You: the ego is the force of life
Stranger: But they make everyone else's life better right?
You: ya so good for everybody else
You: too bad for them
Stranger: Satanism doesn't work for a society. Only for individuals
You: individuals compose a society. morality is a perfectly useful construct to maintain everybody's individually selfish interests
You: satanists just acknowledge it
Stranger: U need to get saved
You: nope
You: I'm already in hell and enjoying it
Stranger: U will die and be anhilated
You: indeed
You: death is god's domain
Stranger: But Jesus offers life
You: jesus is a guise that satan uses to lie to the foolish
Stranger: Sounds ridiculous
You: ur doctrine sounds equally so
Stranger: No. Jesus saved humans from Satan's dominion
Stranger: Pretty simple
You: satan has always had dominion and jesus helps him do it
Stranger: No. Satan lost the bet when Jesus suffered on the cross.
Stranger: And had to release all humans
You: u think the world has been so great since then?
Stranger: No.
Stranger: It's not about this world
Stranger: It's about the next
You: god has the only world
Stranger: I believe in heaven
You: yup
Stranger: U don't want eternal peace and rest?
You: eternal peace and rest is always disturbed by partiers
You: there is no rest
You: there is no peace
You: life is life
You: death is death
Stranger: The fool says in his heart: there is no God
You: did i deny god?
Stranger: Before
You: i said I'm not a theist
Stranger: Ya
You: that isn't denying god
You: I'm denying ur conception of god
Stranger: What is yours then?
You: god is inanimate and satan is animate
You: god created satan through natural selection
Stranger: Who or what is satan?
You: the selfishness of hereditary material created by natural selection
You: the selfish gene
Stranger: Evolution is a lie.
Stranger: They duped you
Stranger: And cheated u out of eternal life
You: there is eternal life
You: my conscious is just one part of it
Stranger: Are you ex- christian?
You: nope
Stranger: Them what made you so messed up
You: life i guess lol
You: just seeing people
You: as they are
You: not being normative or prescriptive
Stranger: U need to get born again
You: there is one life
You: well
You: only one that's completely mine
Stranger: Give It to God
You: i would die were i to give it completely
Stranger: No
Stranger: We all die though
You: that's when we give it all to god
Stranger: The world's highest IQ man said:
Stranger: Nothing is wasted
You: yup
Stranger: So I think God will revive us
Stranger: Like what's the point of ur life if no ressurection?
Stranger: It's all pointless?
You: god creates slaves to satan. being happy is our work. its what we're built to seek.
Stranger: It's different if ur born again
You: satan is the ego that motivates us to continue our legacy
You: you are your ancestors and your progeny
Stranger: Ego must die.
Stranger: Be born again
You: life is the ego
You: and dies when does the ego
You: god is death
You: i'll return to him when I'm ready
Stranger: What if you burm in hell forever?
You: life is hell
You: death is heaven
Stranger: What if ur wrong?
You: what if unicorns exist?
Stranger: That doesn't matter
You: what if the first woman was made from a man's rib?
Stranger: Then evolution is a lie
You: makes more sense then that shit
Stranger: Bible makes sense
You: have fun worshipping a costume
Stranger: You are flesh and think according to the flesh
You: everybody is flesh. those who aren't in denial about it will die
You: and nobody wants die
Stranger: No. I am also a spirit being although I will be in the flesh for many years
You: i wish i could threaten to kill you right now so that you could bet your life on it but i know that i can't
Stranger: My flesh might say stop.
You: lol satan would be doing u a favor
Stranger: But the spirit being in me knows I'll live
You: god is death
Stranger: I was born again
You: go to him
You: if u want to
Stranger: God of the living not the dead
Stranger: You do not know the Scripture
You: lol why would i
Stranger: You should examine it and see your folly
Stranger: And get on ur knees and repent
You: i wouldn't bother
Stranger: gotta go
You: good riddance
Stranger has disconnected.
The Wall
Here are some worthwhile arguments.
If god created the universe, what created god? And if god has always existed why can't we infer that for the cosmos and just have "one less god"?
If you want to get super-technical try this one: If god's will predetermines everything why do particles exist as waves before observation?
And if they want to get all mystical with proof of "intelligent design" say something like, The universe was a chaotic mess of nuclei and electron plasma with no form whatsoever until 370,000 years after the Planck Epoch, when it had cooled enough for atoms to form.
The big bang itself does not suggest anything more than an unfathomable amount of energy was released in an instant. For the argument "god did it" there are many equivocal options for this unknown: vacuum fluctuations/infinite zero point field, brane collision in infinite bulk (as m-theory requires infinities of infinities in quantum superpositions), Nun (primordial sea), simulation, etc...
If you want to further dismiss intelligent design say higgs-bosons (observed at CERN) may explain mass, which gives you all the fractalus symmetry you need. You might want to read up on "scalar fields" for that one.
You can then cite "hydrostatic equilibrium" as an example of how gravity "designs" things.
Symmetry is always the simplest form, and the simplest form is that which preserves energy. Everything fighting thermodynamic heat death.
Now keep in mind, no matter what you do, there will never be the "proto-chicken" to lay the universal egg.Apologist Kill 101
Here are some worthwhile arguments.
If god created the universe, what created god? And if god has always existed why can't we infer that for the cosm...See more
I need to brush up on my physics...