Why on Earth or in Hell would I care about someone else's (dis)belief in Satan? In my opinion, that's one of the most beautiful things about Satanism: the diversity of beliefs, opinions, interpretations, etc. I think the variety of opinions only makes Satanism that much more interesting and appealing.
What do you think?
What kind of shit-flinging do you experiencing?Trash talk, mostly. Also, satanists saying that only their form of satanism is valid and other people aren't "true" satanists
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this is more or less the same with question of which of the following ideology is better: theistic satanism or atheistic satanism? the real answer in my view is neither.
Yes...Because making threats through a keyboard makes you any better than the "psudo-intellectuals" found here.In real life - according to human nature - the ONA is the only Satanism: because we fucking say so. And if you have a problem: we can fight it out. You're fucking pussies. Safe behind your computers, debating shit like this. My ONA friends would fuck you up.
God this thread is a shit-storm.
I would say that, ultimately, if someone's particular flavor of Satanism brings that person peace, then that is the true form of Satanism - The true form of Satanism varies from person to person, as do their wants, needs, and personality. If your form of Satanism requires you to cry out "this is right! This is the truest form of Satanism!" then you are correct....for yourself.
But, sincerely, we face enough backlash from both the Judeo-Christian faiths, as well the RHP. Why bring strife between ourselves?
I believe those that wish to create this conflict among the varying forms of Satanism are truly just psychic vampires wanting to get their jollies off.
i would like to thank frater luciferi for validating my opinion about how pointless this argument really is.thank you. personally i feel that the question as to which ideology is better between theistic satanism and atheistic satanism is rather pointless. i mean that's like asking which of the following ideology is better: capitalism or communism? while one person chooses one of the options and made some redundant reasoning as to why by demonizing the other option, you will also find the other person pick the exact opposite choice and demonize the other in the same fashion.this is more or less the same with question of which of the following ideology is better: theistic satanism or atheistic satanism? the real answer in my view is neither.
Theism only means the belief in God (in theological sense) and atheism means the lack of that belief. Theistic Satanists creates their own belief systems. Atheistic Satanists creates their own belief systems. In the end there is no difference between theistic and atheistic Satanists because the core of Satanism is to be your own god like the character of Satan.
and i would like to further add by asking the question of what justification would any satanist have of imposing their views on others? does that not go against the policy which is most common among all other satanist, which is to never proselytize your views or ideals on others?
i mean when you think about it that is the same shit that christians do.
SupportNow as far as the O.N.A, I
know a little about them as I began my studies in 1998 or 1999 and it was a true challenge to find their literature then. I have seen the ONA grow a hundred tentacles
then and accept many sheep chapters that could have never existed back them.
The ONA wanted to build the Ubermensch
of its members. What Happened? Are they so poisoned?
Also from what I remember of their readings only the Special
Forces Frontiers kind of MAN could have been a member, you needed to be a Tri-athlete and survivalist. How can so many
thousands of young boys in moms basement claim
such things as membership?
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Words mean NOTHING. Action means everything. Do you think
that our puppet masters care what the sheeple think?
Think before you speak, talk is empty and meaningless. And
to be offended by the bleating of a sheep
shows weakness. Polish your armor
and remove the flaws in it. Always
remember. Wolves do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. You are losing powerful energy you could direct someplace
else.
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At a dinner party, several friends were all sat down having great discussion about religion... an hour or two later...One person said that "Xtians were the true followers of God" the table went quiet for a short while, then another replied "But that is against all other faiths, would God not love all?" Someone else jumped in at that point " No, God can not love all, because not all show their true vulnerability in faith and trust in his word" ... at this point I got up and declared my immediate absence was due to over eating, needing a walk in fresh air.
It was wonderful summer evening, clear skies, gentle breeze, crickets chirping ...then yelling... "Get out you fucking bigot" and with that a door slammed. I did not let that concern me on such a perfect evening. I started to walk back toward my friends house, then more shouting from the same direction; this time a female, but I could not make out what was said.
On my return to the house and entering, my friend was clearing the table... "where is everyone?" I asked...he proceeded to inform me of the events that unfolded after I took leave.
He and I have been friends many years, and still are... I am also great friends with all the others, but he has had nothing to do with any of them, and none of them have had anything to do with each other.
If you are a Satanist, and others are also Satanists, and people all start arguing about who the fuck is a real Satanist due to X,Y and Z; go for a walk... you won't regret it ;)
SupportI knew this conversation was going to de-volve :D
Yall left out the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, my favorite one!
I don't think there's one group, organization or individual who gets to decide what "true" satanism is. All the bickering is so reminiscent of 90's Satanism, flame-wars on newsgroups and all. It also reminds me of Christians, who have been attempting to out-do each other for centuries. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
I just wanted to chuck my opinion in the cake mix...Out of curiosity, what does Satanism mean to you? I would like to think it was clear skies, gentle breeze, and the crickets chirping because why not?
At a dinner party, several friends were all sat down having great discussion about religion... an hour or two later...One person said that "Xtians were the true followers of God" the table went quiet for a short while, then another replied "But that is against all other faiths, would God not love all?" Someone else jumped in at that point " No, God can not love all, because not all show their true vulnerability in faith and trust in his word" ... at this point I got up and declared my immediate absence was due to over eating, needing a walk in fresh air.
It was wonderful summer evening, clear skies, gentle breeze, crickets chirping ...then yelling... "Get out you fucking bigot" and with that a door slammed. I did not let that concern me on such a perfect evening. I started to walk back toward my friends house, then more shouting from the same direction; this time a female, but I could not make out what was said.
On my return to the house and entering, my friend was clearing the table... "where is everyone?" I asked...he proceeded to inform me of the events that unfolded after I took leave.
He and I have been friends many years, and still are... I am also great friends with all the others, but he has had nothing to do with any of them, and none of them have had anything to do with each other.
If you are a Satanist, and others are also Satanists, and people all start arguing about who the fuck is a real Satanist due to X,Y and Z; go for a walk... you won't regret it ;)
