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ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Sep 25 '17
I don't know where to really post this in the forum but this heavily confuses me without a shadow of a doubt because I am not attracted to men but I am attracted to females and trans women, guys who transition to look like a female by surgery, hormones, etc; this making them have the female look.  Seriously I have one reason to believe it's not gay with there being some philia for it and studies where men that watched trans female porn would not watch male on male porn.  Very aware of the chromosomes and the genitalia they have but it does feel like a different attraction to that of a gay/bi man liking straight up man.  what are your comments on this, I would love to know because this is an interesting topic and I would love to hear your pieces on this being if its very grey, gay, straight, so on.  
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ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Sep 26 '17
I see where you are going with that; it makes sense.  Last part where you talk about them "finding us disgusting and or deceptive because of the nature of our attraction".  


I remember times when I had hit on some from that beginning intrigue as a younger teenager and boy I got yelled at for "fetishism of trans" and I react "what?  I am just attracted and trying to flirt...", some have actually been quite okay with the attraction and are flattered by it, more so, noticing of their ability to pass!  Really, I love trans women that are very chill like that and understand some of us "Cis males" like them.  I know they are one thing I adore and Satan bless their great existence!  Hail Satan!   :) 

Dominic Cross
Dominic Cross Sep 29 '17
Interesting comment Luxex


SatanicBrain
SatanicBrain Sep 29 '17

Quote from Luxex

Yes, it's gay. Especially if the shemale has a dick and balls. That's a man, and when you're a man and you have sex with a person with a dick and pair of balls also, you are a homosexual. Plain and simple. 


Being gay goes against the Laws of Nature, and therefore it is unsatanic. Satan hates fags. 


The truth hurts. 

We are nothing but beasts. Plenty of other beasts commit acts of homosexuality - and these beasts follow the Laws of Nature even closer than we humans do. Are the animals such as sheep, bonobos, and dolphins better Satanists than we are?
TheMystic Support
TheMystic Sep 29 '17
@ SatanicBrain, Animals do not commit acts of Homosexuality. They commit acts of Dominance.  Mother natures law is tooth and claw. It is survival of the fittest. You sir have never been an Alpha or you would fully understand this. It is NOT natural at all.  Then again  it is not natural for  people sitting behind a PC wanting to have conversations with strangers instead of face to face, like I am doing right now..     If you want to be Homosexual that is your choice and I am not going to deny you happiness if you can find it. But do not give me such BS as that.  Homosexuals do not reproduce, there for their kind becomes extinct in one generation if they were created by nature.

I am not saying you can not be a Homo, I am saying do not try to hide under a lie of it is natural in nature, that is cowardice.
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Quote from Luxex

Yes, it's gay. Especially if the shemale has a dick and balls. That's a man, and when you're a man and you have sex with a person with a dick and pair of balls also, you are a homosexual. Plain and simple. 


Being gay goes against the Laws of Nature, and therefore it is unsatanic. Satan hates fags. 


The truth hurts. 

We are nothing but beasts. Plenty of other beasts commit acts of homosexuality - and these beasts follow the Laws of Nature even closer than we humans do. Are the animals such as sheep, bonobos, and dolphins better Satanists than we are?

SatanicBrain
SatanicBrain Sep 29 '17
With that statement I'm assuming you've never seen a male bonobo pay another male in food to commit sexual acts with him, or the same with female-to-female sexual interaction. Dolphins will engage in sexual acts with the same sex and then reciprocate the actions.


 There are hypotheses that homosexuality in nature is a form of self-enforced population-control, however I'm unsure to the credit to those thoughts. 


So, I would say it's much more natural than us sitting here, talking through the Internet.

Quote from TheMystic @ SatanicBrain, Animals do not commit acts of Homosexuality. They commit acts of Dominance.  Mother natures law is tooth and claw. It is survival of the fittest. You sir have never been an Alpha or you would fully understand this. It is NOT natural at all.  Then again  it is not natural for  people sitting behind a PC wanting to have conversations with strangers instead of face to face, like I am doing right now..     If you want to be Homosexual that is your choice and I am not going to deny you happiness if you can find it. But do not give me such BS as that.  Homosexuals do not reproduce, there for their kind becomes extinct in one generation if they were created by nature.

Zach Black Owner
Zach Black Sep 30 '17

Quote from Luxex

I hate fags.


The thing about you faggots and supporters of faggism is that you are Liberals. I hate fucking Liberals: you have no sense of Conservatism/preservationism, meaning the preservation of your folk/people's traditions, culture, customs, religion, etc. 


You faggots believe you have the liberty to do whatever the fuck you want. To the detriment of your social order, traditions, culture, customs, ancestral religions. 


That's why you faggots are fucking stupid. In this regard, its a good thing that you faggots don't reproduce!


Fucking Liberals. You faggots probably have niggers as friends and think multiculturalism is good, and dislike racism. 


Stupid fucks.

This is a warning. I do not care if you hate liberals and homosexuals. Nor does anyone here. But,  not cool to call homosexuals idiots, stupid ect. Satanism if you have read the Satanic Bible accepts ' consensual sex between two adults' . So, for you to say homosexuality is un satanic and 'Satan hates fags' you just sound ignorant. 


If you continue in this manner you will be removed. 

ManxLoaghtan Member
ManxLoaghtan Oct 3 '17
So some of you are homophobes, I get that, each to their own, I am Morophobic...  but as for saying that homoseuality is not Natural, what planet of natural do you live on? Do some of you even know what natural means? Know what you are talking about before you speak.


Nature by definition equals anything that has come into existence without any influence from mankind... so how exactly do you get to someone not being natural? When kids grow up they know that they feel different to how most of society acts, and it is only due to social expectations that they are made aware, from that point onwards, even if they do not have a label to fit (also a mankind thing, as nature sure as Hell doesn't label everything) Then they might talk to a parent and then a few things can happen; Parent rejects child (due to social construct rather than parenting). Parent enrolls kid into some kind of fucked up Xtian ritual to Cure Homosexual tendencies  or Parent knows how to parent well, and ensures their kids that we are what we are, it's all good.


As for Transexuals it is proven that the brain is different; men having a female brain and women a male one. As most already know, our sexuality is driven by hormones/chemicals from the many glands in our body; no one chooses to be gay or lesbian or transgendered, they are simply born the same as anyone else; nature made us all. 


As for the original posters question, irrelevant of the body assigned at birth, a man is a man and a woman is a woman by their own standard of the words definition; Old English wifmon (a mans wife) and wer and wif were used to name male and female humans respectively, Man was used as in all humans, no sexual preference. So as far as I can tell, it is upto the individual as to their sexual choices, and nothing at all to do with genitalia. Actually all that the genitals are for is reproduction, as is the case for all animals;  and has nothing at all to do with the change of chemicals in the brain when emotions such as happiness, contentment, attraction or pleasure, etc... If you like, fancy or are interested in someone and they make you feel good, then who fucking cares what their genitals look like, we are not defined by our body when the mind is so much more. 

 Fancy whoever you want, got fuck all to do with anyone else.  



ManxLoaghtan Member
ManxLoaghtan Oct 6 '17
Careful you might wear it out ;) 
Quote from Zoramonkey
Quote from ManxLoaghtan So some of you are homophobes, I get that, each to their own, I am Morophobic...  but as for saying that homoseuality is not Natural, what planet of natural do you live on? Do some of you even know what natural means? Know what you are talking about before you speak.



Morophobia....I am going to use this word now, I am going to get triggered and claim they are aggravating my morophobia every time someone says something stupid.

6on_of_6atan
6on_of_6atan Oct 7 '17
Zoramonkey your a racist bitch im African american dip shit your not even a real satanist cause if you were you'll know that lord satan is not racist in that he loves each in every one of us cause we are the children of his seed. You dont belive hes real you got a whole lot to catch up on so stop being a bitch cause lord satan is the god of darkness in when you racist bitch call us black think abt Father Satan whos the god of darkness so he used that dark to make us black people not you goofy ass white people cause that bitch up above is creater of supposedly light in to let you know father satan is as real as it gets so stop being a bitch cause racism is so over with


Dionysus
Dionysus Oct 7 '17
For some it's not the female that attracts them, but the female form.

I don't think it's gay. I don't think it's straight either. I don't even know if there's a label for it, but Satanism says it's all good as long as you're both consenting, so who cares? 
Seek out your pleasures. 
Your friend,
Dio.

Dionysus
Dionysus Oct 7 '17

Quote from 6on_of_6atan Zoramonkey your a racist bitch im African american dip shit your not even a real satanist cause if you were you'll know that lord satan is not racist in that he loves each in every one of us cause we are the children of his seed. You dont belive hes real you got a whole lot to catch up on so stop being a bitch cause lord satan is the god of darkness in when you racist bitch call us black think abt Father Satan whos the god of darkness so he used that dark to make us black people not you goofy ass white people cause that bitch up above is creater of supposedly light in to let you know father satan is as real as it gets so stop being a bitch cause racism is so over with


Zoramonkey didn't say those things. It was another user that I assumed got removed.
Apologize to Zoramonkey for your mean words. 
SatanicBrain
SatanicBrain Oct 7 '17

Quote from Dionysus For some it's not the female that attracts them, but the female form.

I don't think it's gay. I don't think it's straight either. I don't even know if there's a label for it, but Satanism says it's all good as long as you're both consenting, so who cares? 
Seek out your pleasures. 
Your friend,
Dio.

I think you nailed the head on it with the idea of being attracted to the female form. 


As for a term for it, I think that's where pansexuality comes into place, where you are attracted without limitation of sex, gender, or gender identity. Of course, that's not to say all pansexuals are attracted to all things, but that pansexuals may be attracted outside the normal confines of homo/heterosexuality.

ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Oct 24 '17
Thank you all for your responses, haven't been able to check this from suspension but I appreciate support and answers.  Reading all of this is giving me food for thought, Hail Satan!  :)
ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Oct 26 '17

Quote from deliriumfugue Unless in the midst of actually having sex, everyone is asexual. It doesn't matter what you're aroused by, it's what you're doing. 


If you happen to find yourself fucking a dude that thinks he's a chick, and you are also a dude, then yes! In the moments that you are doing that, that is "gay".


I can find that opinion to be alright I suppose, over time I have come to terms that I may be bisexual.  Needing to really experience it all when I get into a big city...  men, trans women, transvestites, etc.   I have fantasized before about taking dick and it stimulates my g spot and sacral.  Seems as if with guys this happens when I develop a full bond with one at least being friends and having something to offer
The Forum post is edited by ThuleDragon666 Oct 26 '17
ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Oct 26 '17
True, our sexuality is not what defines all of the individual but is considered a piece of it often.  To the 2nd part of the quote, that is somewhat the appeal that they have the same amount of white matter as a woman in the brain but have the same gender chromosomes as a man; in this with born genitalia even looking like a female gives off some hetero and third sex stimuli!  :D  They may be biologically a male but the heart of it they are alot like females and can be treated like everyone else, they can function in our society and does no one harm to transition to the opposite sex quite simply.  
Quote from deliriumfugue

  


There's a lot more important things about me than what I have sex with; even if I only have sex with women.  


*also, yes, a trans female is still a male. 'Will always be. A dude that went through great lengths to pass as a chick, is still a dude. And if one is humping said dude-who-went-through-great-lengths-to-pass-as-a-chick. That is gay. "Thinking" about having sex with them doesn't mean or change  anything. 


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ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Oct 27 '17

Quote from Zoramonkey
Quote from deliriumfugue You can think of yourself however you like. I'm just saying: one is only what they are doing at the time. If you think the D might pleasure you - it probably might! It will neither make nor change who you are, though.


In my (not so) humble opinion, you are agonizing over a triviality.  

I think the reason your pal and several people agonize over this subject is because gender and sexual orientation tend to define culture, dominance hierarchy rank, sexual marketplace value, financial and domestic options...especially those concerning child rearing and dominant culture.

It is strange that gay and strait cultures are still distinct despite many crossovers. This becomes more evident if you were able to jump from one racial or ideological/religious culture. This is also wrought with crossovers in situations like the odd Anglo/Asian cultural bridge and everyone in the occult subculture has most of their roots and life in the larger dominant cultures. Finding out you are gay is like waking up Hispanic after years of being Anglo.

I can get a little salty in this discussion simply because sure there are only two biological genders but the narrow conventional templates for behavior might work for some of you but there are many of us who have a bit more range get really tired of those who prefer convention insisting on being rude.

I remember Ron playing a song that made fun of Paganism and the occult, saying it was "just made up" the asshole who sung the song probably sung that with smug satisfaction. Safe in the knowledge that the Christianity or Judaism they practiced surely was not made up like that. Really. Never mind the recent archeological findings like the Flavian thing, Never mind that all the Abrahamics say their books are "the word of gawd" even though all of said books say in the very texts they hold that they too were "made up" Basically you have a larger conventional group that just can't leave well enough alone and needs to shit on the outsiders at any point.

This may sound like sjw talk but really the sjws embrace the greater but still minority conventional cultures like gay and feminist culture. The outsiders still seem to be the brunt of such fashionable rudeness. So yea, refer to a trans woman as male, sure it is biologically valid but it is also rude and a dick move, and please, those of you who wish to do this, please, do not lie to everyone and possibly yourself that you do not give a fuck because you are not here to make friends.

This is a social media site. Go back to Stormfront if you wish to be selectively rude to people on this site because of something about them that does not effect you. Apologies if this sounds salty.
I don't think much of this is sjw talk to be honest, I don't think trans are their born gender in the soul nor do I know for sure what they are but I am keeping open minded to the science of trans people.  Really what we should be worried about is just being closed minded to something we do not understand and this type of mindset; being  an open mind to things I do not understand has given me a fair share of hate from people like those at storm front and similar.  Maybe that is sjw talk right there but I know damn well like the sjw community, so had others in being polluted in the minds for mindlessly following and not trying to think about something.  
The Forum post is edited by ThuleDragon666 Oct 27 '17
ThuleDragon666
ThuleDragon666 Oct 27 '17

Quote from deliriumfugue


Lastly, I ask one consider this: what I think LaVey was driving-at was that the fleshly, the carnal, the meat-sack that is you, is all there is to you. There is no soul. Subsequently, whenever in doubt - even if it is as to something as basic as their own gender - one is what they were born with. As-in "born, not made" A is A. etc.

Are we really a meat sack?  There is a scientific term for the soul called the life force which that bio electricity comes from the brain through out the body.  Lavey is indeed a smart man and a credited satanist where it is deserved but I don't think that all he says is the arbiter of truth personally.  
Quote from deliriumfugue


And yes, if someone is willing to get their own dick or tits chopped-off and mangled with scalpels, they should probably expect, at the very least, more than few raised eyebrows - but it's not so much on them for doing it, it's on them for making said (f'n crazy!) decision an open-item for discussion to anyone within ear-shot.



I see this commonly that people will believe that all trans must cut off born genitalia, really that is their personal choice if they wanna keep it or not which that seems like something you understand and I understand people naturally have some reactions.   Generally the only reactions I just do not like is just cold minded and continuous, maybe you can laugh and wonder why someone would do what they do, people that comes to mind being of the storm front is someone who can sit down and relentlessly give you alot of ad hominems,  tell you how a man and woman should be, what sexuality are by no means acceptable (giving long lectures how it is degenerate), etc... all of this decorum restricting people from being who they are as an individual!  People like that is who I am rather against, not someone who gives some funny looks and has just verbal opinions that is not big enough to feel like an attack/infringement on someone else.  
Zach Black Owner
Zach Black Nov 1 '17
Are men that do not capitalize their sentences actually trannys ?
XG17
XG17 Nov 4 '17

Quote from Zach Black
This is a warning. I do not care if you hate liberals and homosexuals. Nor does anyone here. But,  not cool to call homosexuals idiots, stupid ect. Satanism if you have read the Satanic Bible accepts ' consensual sex between two adults' . So, for you to say homosexuality is un satanic and 'Satan hates fags' you just sound ignorant. 


If you continue in this manner you will be removed. 


You heard it here, folks. The good book says what the good book says, I'm here to cite the word and lay down its authority. Here, we all defer to that.

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