On Worshipping Yourself as a Satanist from Troll's blog

A friend of mine asked about Satanic self-worship. I wrote the following in response to his brief inquiries and reflections:

As a Satanist, self-worship means to me applying most if not all of the categories of treatment generally regarded to GODS by other religious to oneself, not just metaphorically or euphemistically, but honestly and fully. I've th
ought long and hard about this, in part because i sought such worship of my Goddess and in part because i think it is an egotistical challenge to worship myself actively, rather than merely as part of some interest in outrage or humour.

I'd list those categories as:

• exaltation -- supernalizing in a personal and emotional sense for the time being of the worship; regaling those present with the glories and virtues of the focus of worship; praising aloud and with sonic volume, singing or dramatically portraying these virtues; celebrating the being and character of that entity, and particularly their importance to the worshipper and to the wider world. (lifting up from above)

• obeisance -- subordinating oneself before that entity or intelligence, especially physically before objects of worship inclusive of statues, images (generally 'idols') conceived as in some way representing and/or participating in the presence or person of the entity being worshipped; recognizing and paying tribute overtly to the dependency we have upon that entity, how their existence is central, essential, or of extreme importance to the continuation of what we value. (lifting up from below)

• ardour -- expressing emotional devotion in whatever capacity and role is pertinent (guardian, grandparent or parent, uncle or aunt, spouse or sibling, lover, friend, or comrade, cousin or child, pet or mascot; reciting or reading poetry, singing rapturous love songs, recounting tales of sweet, deep, and abiding love, attesting to the heights and depths which this love did, could, would, or will inspire, (establishing intimacy out of love on variable footing)

• alliance - declaring with force and faith one's solid testament to the entity, portraying, describing, or artfully depicting the tests to which this loyalty and compact has been put, establishing by dint of accompanying testimony and proof in endeavour (as by rite, blood pact, etc.) one's thorough commitment to the cause of the other. (establishing strength out of trust of a comparable equal)

You ask if the things you mention count (to me) as self-worship ('with that end in mind'? not sure what this means), and i will take them each in turn below:

-- giving yourself adoration and devotion: too vague.

-- loving the person one has become: fairly weak, perhaps a start.

-- appreciating one's finer qualities, self-improvement, attention to integrity, intentionality, and health: weak but a good start.

-- admiring one's own image as part of ordinary affairs: merely vainglory, but headed in the right direction if pursued to purpose.

So i'd have to say no they do not count, and i think i have made the extremity and intensity of ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT OF PRAISE AND DEDICATION, particularly in a ritual and ceremonial sense, clear as a criterion.

For Satanists i have repeatedly made it plain that i think it will be helpful for them to study in some detail how other religious conduct their worship, catalogue this to an extent, as i have, and then exercise this with respect to oneself, as i have experimentally achieved with canonizing myself and paying tribute to myself as a saint while attempting a communion with the Saint of Occultism.

{interlude after which further questions seemed important to put forward}

So does worshipping oneself create a sense of other? Does worship of a god predispose or necessitate the division of that object of worship into an other?

Let me broaden this a bit for philosophic purpose: ALL images of oneself are different than oneself. An observation of a mirror will demonstrate to us that the image is reversed right-to-left. A video reflection or phone-camera reflection for a selfie are very close, but as soon as we snap the photo to capture that image, the person of whom it was an image (us in the past) is necessarily different than our present being.

Thus the worship of oneself might be likened to a god in that we are always, when issuing devotion or exaltation, turning our worshipful attention to the PAST of the god. Why a god would necessarily need be different than ourselves is nothing i can answer. Is canonization something new or different, and does the fact that this is popularly issued by large churches make it of a different character than (and thus a more authentic version of) what we are doing?

I had already identified with the Jesus character many times, with bodhisattvas, with spiritually advanced images, prior. Prophethood, identification of my birthplace as a holy city (on account of my having come from it), was both arch and genuinely felt.

When does ego outstrip the usefulness of our activities as regards ego expansion with interest toward self-development? I suppose that once one integrates disciplines of humility and non-self-destructive asceticism that this curtails some if not all of the negative effects of egotism exercises, with titles, self-re-envisioning, and dramatic rite, role-playing, or faking-it-until-making-it.

You ask what connection there is between the object of worship and the idol. I suggest to you that you could merge those magically and therefore prevent any distinction through a spell (comparable to making a doll-baby of yourself and unifying with it, but instead doing it with a candle or a statue or a photo, and then directing your obeisance and dedication to that object).

Yes, there is a common TEMPORARY distinction, just like with all idols and most states of consciousness. Very few bhakti yogis can engage in worship sufficient that the idol *becomes* the very deity during that worship. For most religious that is an unimportant and merely ephemeral distinction operating during the prayers or worship event.

Troll Towelhead, Grand Mufti of Satanism

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Hartnell
Oct 23 '15
It's as simple as praising yourself when you make something you want to happen, instead of praying to a god and praising then if it does happen. Self-worship means nothing unless the person believes in themselves as the agent with the power to affect change. Directly related: locus of control.It's as simple as praising yourself when you make something you want to happen, instead of praying to a god and praising then if it does happen. Self-worship means nothing unless the person believes i...See more
Hartnell
Oct 23 '15
The extent to which people believe they have power over events in their lives. A person with an internal locus of control believes that he or she can influence events and their outcomes, while someone with an external locus of control blames outside forces for everything.

This concept was brought to light in the 1950’s by Julian Rotter. The underlying question regarding the locus of control is this…do I control my life or does something else (like a God) control it? This simple idea has profound significance as it influences peoples’ beliefs very strongly. Do you believe in God? Are you an agnostic? Why? Do I just have good luck? If I make all the right decisions does that mean I can make my life be exactly how I envision it? These are all questions that might arise from that simple premise.

I think this page has some excellent insights about the locus of control and how it relates to psychological well being: http://wilderdom.com/...OfControlWhatIs.html
The extent to which people believe they have power over events in their lives. A person with an internal locus of control believes that he or she can influence events and their outcomes, while someone...See more
Troll Member
Oct 24 '15
Self-praise seems weak in comparison. I gather it's kinda like 'Praise Jesus!" and compensates for inferiority complex born through routine conservative Christian conditioning. Since i didn't grow up with that i feel sort of sorry for the former Christians who don't think of self-worship as a transgressive self-glorification and outrageous pursuit of challenge to egotism. What's the worst that might happen?Self-praise seems weak in comparison. I gather it's kinda like 'Praise Jesus!" and compensates for inferiority complex born through routine conservative Christian conditioning. Since i didn't gro...See more
Hartnell
Oct 24 '15
By praising yourself I mean acknowleding yourself as the cause. I used 'praise' to compare and contrast with the exact same process where attribution is given externally, as you point out, often to "Jebus".
Hartnell
Oct 24 '15
Self-efficacy is the extent or strength of one's belief in one's own ability to complete tasks and reach goals. Psychologists have studied self-efficacy from several perspectives, noting various paths in the development of self-efficacy; the dynamics of self-efficacy, and lack thereof, in many different settings; interactions between self-efficacy and self-concept; and *habits of attribution that contribute to, or detract from, self-efficacy.*Self-efficacy is the extent or strength of one's belief in one's own ability to complete tasks and reach goals. Psychologists have studied self-efficacy from several perspectives, noting various paths...See more
Troll Member
Oct 24 '15
Sure, but why dress it up as "self-worship"? It doesn't even begin to approximate what might be called 'hero worship' as you're describing it. I've always seen it come across as a bid to rile theists. That's why i go overboard beyond anyone i've ever known in the opposite direction, using what i know about religions in a LHP bid for a terrific and dramatic swapping yourself out for the god in a rite you construct. I think this is inspired and wonderfully transgressive. f you're in for self-development, why pretend it has anything to do with religion, spirituality, or worship?Sure, but why dress it up as "self-worship"? It doesn't even begin to approximate what might be called 'hero worship' as you're describing it. I've always seen it come across as a bid to ril...See more
Troll Member
Oct 24 '15
I've often had the same complaint for Crowleyans and Setians. This is obviously something disputed amongst the factions of the Church of Satan too: early Thelemics extended out of New Thought and self-development ideas. Why Crowley had to inject his woo-woo Egyptomania and ceremonialism just to become more powerful as a person (and he didn't really, he just got hung up on drugs). It strikes me as far more persuasive to talk about this kind of self-improvement as an outcome.I've often had the same complaint for Crowleyans and Setians. This is obviously something disputed amongst the factions of the Church of Satan too: early Thelemics extended out of New Thought and self...See more
Hartnell
Oct 25 '15
"Sure, but why dress it up as "self-worship"?"

I didn't.
"If you're in for self-development, why pretend it has anything to do with religion, spirituality, or worship?"

A gestalt of definitions for worship that I found: v. showing respect and devotion for a deity.

A god is someone's externalized self. No psychological functions change when someone internalizes their locus of control, only the direction and as a result the sense of agency changes (from without to within.) Worship becomes transformed into self-respect and commitment to oneself.

Listen and learn: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHpVn7tGje0
(That song's the "Amazing Grace" of individualism if I've ever heard one. )

To put this into context, after that the next step is described in the old phrase "Satan demands study, not worship." Given that Satan is a symbol of a Satanists individual self, then study is study of oneself, the process of developing self-awareness. It's beginning a "closer walk with thyself" or to reverse another old hat "developing a personal relationship with oneself" and yet another: "Know thyself" is the reverse of the common dogmatic version of "Knowing Jeebus."

So, it comes down to this: the psychology is the same. However, within the confines of some variants of Christianity, the psychological mechanisms have been hijacked. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's depends on the purpose of who's doing the hijacking. In some cases it's exploitation and in others it's like highjacking someone's bloodstream during heart surgery. In other words, it can be used by a vampire or a doctor. Unfortunately for the patient, those who need it are in no shape to differentiate the two.

Have you ever noticed that in the Gospels Jesus says: "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

And yet all it takes to turn it into a something a Satanists would say is replace "faith" with believing in oneself and update the language a bit: "It's because you don't believe in yourself much.. Man, I'm telling you that if can start to believe in yourself a little bit, you'll be able move mountains. Nothing will be impossible for you."

" It strikes me as far more persuasive to talk about this kind of self-improvement as an outcome."

If you want to persuade someone, you have to speak their "language." And then, there's this: "My brand of Satanism is the ultimate conscious alternative to herd mentality and institutionalized thought. It is a studied and contrived set of principles and exercises designed to liberate individuals from a contagion of mindlessness that destroys innovation. I have termed my thought "Satanism" because it is most stimulating under that name. Self-discipline and motivation are effected more easily under stimulating conditions. Satanism means "the opposition" and epitomizes all symbols of nonconformity. Satanism calls forth the strong ability to turn a liability into an advantage, to turn alienation into exclusivity. In other words, the reason it's called Satanism is because it's fun, it's accurate, and it's productive."

I agree with LaVey, especially about the fun, accurate and productive part. Here's an old video of me talking about a way Satanism is productive that's rarely talked about.

www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com/social/video/view/158
"Sure, but why dress it up as "self-worship"?"

I didn't.
"If you're in for self-development, why pretend it has anything to do with religion, spiritualit...See more
Troll Member
Oct 27 '15
Generally agreed. Being the god is easy for mystics in the Jesus religions, because there is so much narrative which includes him that can be turned toward oneself and he speaks of himself in a variety of aggrandized ways. I agree that it can be used to advantage. I don't find it persuasive when someone talks about this and calls it 'worshipping oneself', however. Note that i am not saying that self-worship is important AT ALL, only that it seems an outrageous statement is being made in order to rile those who have problems with egotism and 'idolatry'.


Troll: "'It strikes me as far more persuasive to talk about this kind of self-improvement as an outcome.'

Hartnell:
"If you want to persuade someone, you have to speak their 'language.'"

The language i know relating to this amongst Satanists is from Theistic Satanism where Satan is described as a god and becoming or being (a) god is the general aim (apotheosis). There's no need for worshipping oneself except as a kind of placating byproduct. Don't you agree?


Hartnell:
"And then, there's this:
"'My brand of Satanism is the ultimate conscious alternative to herd mentality and institutionalized thought. It is a studied and contrived set of principles and exercises designed to liberate individuals from a contagion of mindlessness that destroys innovation...."

All very wonderful, but again i don't see that it really relates to worship in any conventional sense. If the intention is to have fun with words and rile Christians, ignore Theistic and other Satanists who use words with more care, then of course it's completely understandable why one would choose such words.

As relates to your contention that it is "accurate", i'm not sure how. 'Having your own view' which you defend in that video (and which i also support, for each of the Satanists in our discussion) isn't really at issue, and yet term control seems to me a waste of our time. Communication using conventional terms (re 'worship' and particularly 'self-worship') is easier than attempting to wade through a morass which has been perturbed or mangled from conventional meaning.
Generally agreed. Being the god is easy for mystics in the Jesus religions, because there is so much narrative which includes him that can be turned toward oneself and he speaks of himself in a variet...See more
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