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Devil Warship
Hello everyone and Hail Satan. 


I've decided to sign up here in an effort to be in contact with other intelligent Satanists and other LHP practitioners. 


My road to Satanism was different from most that I've encountered online; I did not first read Doktor LaVey back in the 1990s and immediately see myself reflected in his writings. My own "good guy" programming was too strong. It took time, experience, perspective, and repeated readings for me to come around. 


I was initially very excited when I saw The Satanic Temple rise to national prominence, but that excitement turned to wariness and ultimately disappointment when I saw that TST is simply the edgiest wing of the DNC. I am of the opinion that any Satanic group which demands political uniformity of thought is no better than a Fundamentalist Christian Church demanding that every member vote against abortion. 


The main thing I like about TST is that they are, at least to a degree, filling some of the role that the Church of Satan filled when it first burst upon the scene. I sincerely wish that the CoS were more than what seems to me to be an Anton LaVey fan club. (btw, if I'm wrong about anything I say here, I invite and welcome correction) 


I think that we can promote religious freethought and genuinely Satanic ideals without demanding loyalty to the platform of any single political party. I walk between worlds and blaspheme the orthodoxies of religion, political party, and "lifestyle." 


I believe that the USA is on a terrible road right now, heading towards ever-increasing levels of corporate and government surveillance and control, an ever-narrowing range of "acceptable" political opinions, and greater embrace of authoritarianism by the both the mainstream Republicans and the mainstream Democrats. 


Back in the 1980s we were correct to fear the theocratic goals of Fundamentalist Christians. But I believe that today we see a similar movement among the secular fundamentalist Progressives. The American Left is doing more to squelch free speech and free thought than the Xtian Fundies ever had the power to do back then. And instead of a "Satanic Panic," we are today living through  some kind of "Fascist Panic" today, with the Church Ladies of the Left constantly clutching their pearls and screaming about imaginary "Nazis" around every corner, waiting to corrupt the children. 


I have been a student of theology, religion, mysticism, the Occult, and ceremonial magick for a long time and I am a dedicated bibliophile. I started out extremely theistic from a devout Judaeo-Christian background, but find myself more of an agnostic these days. Any Deity as conceived by the major monotheisms, at least, seems implausible. But it also seems that reality sometimes behaves as though philosophical materialism is an insufficient tool with which to explain things. But I'm open to all kinds of explanations; even contradictory ones (such as how it might seem as though Newtonian and Quantum physics disagree with each other while each seeming "true.") 


Looking forward to good discussions and ideas here. 


Edited to add: I'm particularly interested in the application of Satanism, Satanic principles, and the LHP to the lives of more mature folks and particularly to folks with spouses, kids, etc. 

For example, how does Satanism nurture those of us long past our rebellious teens and smexy twenties? How does Satanism prepare us for loss as we watch our parents die. How does it help us deal with the increased responsibility of parenting and of being a loving spouse? How does the Left Hand Path help the older members of our community to deal with physical decline and the reality of mortality (not the romantic mortality of heroic death, but the reality of aging, physical and mental decline, and the unavoidable realization of mortality that we tend to get at middle age). 

How does our Satanism exist, not as a naughty secret like a baphomet under your button-down business casual uniform, but as a reality at the end of a long day of sales or accounting or some other necessary evil of a career? 


I'll be frank: I'm no Satanic paragon; I'm not a shining example of the Satanic Ideal. Instead, the Satanic ideal is something that I see as a remedy to my many weaknesses and shortcomings; I am a work in progress and Satanism is the corrective to my flaws. Sometimes I'm weak, sometimes I slip up, sometimes I'm a hypocrite. But the one constant is that I am always striving to become more whole, more free, more independent, less conditioned, and more vital. 

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And instead of a "Satanic Panic," we are today living through  some kind of "Fascist Panic" today, with the Church Ladies of the Left constantly clutching their pearls and screaming about imaginary "Nazis" around every corner, waiting to corrupt the children. 



Yeah. It's been a weird few years. They've ditched Jihadists and are now trying to make the far-right and fascists the new boogeyman. We're all waiting for March to come. That's when HnH comes out with their yearly "State of Hate" article. It'll be filled with nothing but neo-nazis and fascists. 


Speaking of which: Join O9A today and help make the world a better place [o9a.org]. It's safe and wholesome. 


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Anna Feb 7

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Speaking of which: Join O9A today and help make the world a better place [o9a.org]. It's safe and wholesome. 



Oh I see you've managed to chase away those silly old asshats from there. Cool. Any breath of fresh air is appreciated. 


All right, Mr Devil Warship or Worship or whatever, you can safely join now. Nobody will be hurling volumes of the Oxford English dictionary at you for doing so. 

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And instead of a "Satanic Panic," we are today living through  some kind of "Fascist Panic" today, with the Church Ladies of the Left constantly clutching their pearls and screaming about imaginary "Nazis" around every corner, waiting to corrupt the children. 



Yeah. It's been a weird few years. They've ditched Jihadists and are now trying to make the far-right and fascists the new boogeyman. We're all waiting for March to come. That's when HnH comes out with their yearly "State of Hate" article. It'll be filled with nothing but neo-nazis and fascists. 


Speaking of which: Join O9A today and help make the world a better place [o9a.org]. It's safe and wholesome. 


Thanks for the input, No Name Person. I think that we've seen the American "Left" and "Right" unite into the U.S. Monoparty - united in the interests of controlling the populace through fear and cancel culture. It's a shitty situation. 


I've read a few of the books put out by O9A and found them interesting but not exactly my particular path. I don't consider myself either Left or Right. As Doktor LaVey put forth, I pursue a Third Way. My path is caring for me and mine, and encouraging individual freedom. Take care.

Devil Warship

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Speaking of which: Join O9A today and help make the world a better place [o9a.org]. It's safe and wholesome. 



Oh I see you've managed to chase away those silly old asshats from there. Cool. Any breath of fresh air is appreciated. 


All right, Mr Devil Warship or Worship or whatever, you can safely join now. Nobody will be hurling volumes of the Oxford English dictionary at you for doing so. 

Okay, Anna, you've lost me. I'm not sure what you mean at all with your dictionary comment. Or are you just trying to imply that I'm a bad person for not participating in the media's designated daily Two Minutes Hate

Clarity shouldn't be underestimated, especially when trying to communicate with someone who isn't familiar with you. 

talisman
talisman Feb 7
That is a very good comment, it refers to the 2 minutes of hate as it is described in 1984. In fact the hero Winston Smith is being pushed in something he doesn't like, therefore he rebels against it. In the end his deepest fears haunt him.
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Quote from That is a very good comment, it refers to the 2 minutes of hate as it is described in 1984. In fact the hero Winston Smith is being pushed in something he doesn't like, therefore he rebels against it. In the end his deepest fears haunt him.
It's a method of control that we're seeing used more and more today. At one extreme end, it causes a nation to start wars in order to unite feuding factions within a nation. At another end, it designates anyone who gets in the way of the government's agenda a bunch of idiots, worthless and/or evil people, or even "domestic terrorists." We've long believed that it couldn't happen here, in the U.S. But here we are.
talisman
talisman Feb 7
In a way each and every government distorts the role of any individual that is against that government. It is trying to make any opposing role useless. They are just destroying the opposition.
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Anna
Anna Feb 7
You both charmed me with the allusion to "two minutes of hate." Damn it, if I turned on some information TV channel, that would be the whole day of hate, not just two minutes. And if I watched it every day, that would be like dunno, eternal wrath, I suppose? That's why I don't watch the news. I can't afford constantly buying a new TV set after I calm the fuck down. 
Devil Warship
I don't watch any TV anymore. If a decent series comes along, I'll rent the DVDs. I control what goes into my head. 
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