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Geraldo Respuesta NUTZ
Geraldo Respuesta Jun 25 '21
For all of Crowleys batshit faggotronics he did correctly cite "The Aeon of Horus".  Unlike Crowley I find "Horus" here to be a euphemism for the scientific method first and foremost. Especially if you consided the atheism rate in 1904.  A Scientific Method (of Attainment).


Now with the astronomical rise in irreligiosity. Even "God's Country", England is 70% atheist, right along with the rest of the UK, and Europe, and most advanced parts of Asia. 



[2021 survey of people claiming to be "not religious"] 


USA up to near 40% is encouraging. That has quadrupled since Reagan became a "Potatoe" of the Star Wars past. Atheists now exceed the number of Americans that think the age of the universe is 10,000 years old at 38% to 30%. The latter down from close to 50% in 1989. 


In conjunction with other Christian influences being gradually discarded these numbers will translate to a change in social memory* away from spiritual and by extention faithful and dependent predilections. 


* social memory = ever-present memes associated with most the prominent collective archetypal forms, including common skeptical positions.


Much as kids today don't see racial designation in their classmates, children of the future will progressively stop seeing the applicability of faith in adverse problem solving. 


In my opinion this trend will continue to rise until the importance of "spirit" becomes just another extraneous idea without direct problem solving application. 


Hopeful prediction: By 2100 the atheism rate will be in excess of 80% everywhere there is advanced society.  A world much like Japan, where Christianity is some weird thing to joke about and merge bubble gum and death metal in use as a theme for music. 


Hail the death of abstract attainment. I promise it will be a funny world of, "Okay, what the fuck am I looking at?"  



The Forum post is edited by Geraldo Respuesta Jun 25 '21
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 26 '21
Good post, Geraldo. A parallel to the Aeon of Horus is the Age of Aquarius, which supposedly began, per the majority of astrologers, in the 20th century, just as the Aeon of Horus did. The Age of Aquarius is, like the Aeon of Horus, supposedly associated with increasing spirituality, but, like you, I see the 20th century as the rise of rationality, science, materialism, and atheism. (The rise, not the triumph. Maybe this century will see the triumph, though it won't be universal.)


Satanism, meanwhile, can survive quite well in a climate of rationality, science, materialism, and atheism, because it doesn't reject any of those, and in fact endorses them all. Its use of ritual is a deliberate counterpoint to all four principles, a release of the pressure valves, paradoxically strengthening the principles by providing a temporary escape from them, while giving free rein to those areas of existence where the principles have limited relevance: the appetites and passions.


Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jun 26 '21
Yeah they even made a song about it, and I even caught glimpse of a wolf in there, anyway, it goes something like this.

 


 

I don't really give a fuck about hearing them sing about "letting the Sun shine in" one more time, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

The Forum post is edited by Cornelius Coburn Jun 26 '21
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jun 26 '21
Yeah I think I remember that, it's the vehicle, it looks very familiar. It happened sometime in the seventies, it started out with all the Sun shinin' in bullshit and ended with the singing saw and a bunch dead people with one left hanging on a meat hook. So much for happy endings, but there was that one that got away, so you got a little light in there so to speak, but yeah, it was pretty fuckin' dark for sure.
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jun 26 '21

Quote from Wolfie Good post, Geraldo. A parallel to the Aeon of Horus is the Age of Aquarius, which supposedly began, per the majority of astrologers, in the 20th century, just as the Aeon of Horus did. The Age of Aquarius is, like the Aeon of Horus, supposedly associated with increasing spirituality, but, like you, I see the 20th century as the rise of rationality, science, materialism, and atheism. (The rise, not the triumph. Maybe this century will see the triumph, though it won't be universal.)



I am working on a redo of Western sociological Aeons on planet earth. Strangely my working model is somewhat lining up with the astrogical timescale and not at all ripping off some MSS I once read. 


Aeon of Agriculture8000 BCE to 3500 BCE 


 First domestication of plants and animals by seasonally nomadic groups. 


Theologically myths were oratory and incorporated their environment. The animals to kill were provided by the whatever sky based superstition they had.  Worth noting is the Sahara and Arabian deserts were still grassland when the first domestication occurred. 


Signature Mode of Attainment :  Kindred practical superstition


Aeon of Commerce3200 BCE to 500 BCE 


After the Sahara and Arabian deserts dried up you had people in the desert belt settled along rivers. Mainly The Tigris and Nile. Once semi-nomadic agrarian folk had to share the only water. This Aeon includes the advent of cuneiform as a means to track commercial transactions and itemize receipts.  


Theologically the Aeon is ruled by a pantheon of carried over sky based things, now written about explicitly, but still serving same role of explanating bad hunting seasons. 


Towards the end of this Aeon monoaltry (like Ba'al) paved the way to a singular god.


Signature Mode of Attainment : ceremonial nondual polytheism 


Aeon of Abraham: 500 BCE to 1900 CE 


Starting well before 500, but coming into form with monotheist preference is The Aeon of Abraham. This is when the sky spirits became global policy. Books like the Torah gave rise to the use manipulative texts for territory acquisition and foreign affairs.  


In this Aeon theology became more authoritive and personalized. The precepts of absolute duality were born. A singular god, and a dismantling of more carnal ways. 


By 300 CE the monotheistic western world was set. 


This Aeon was a reversion. Advancements of the Hellenistic era were cast aside with polytheism and society became holier than thou. There wasn't a euthyphro dilemma after the god became absolute under penalty of death.  


This Aeon was truly the dark ages. 


Signature Mode of Attainment :  Repressive dualist monotheism 


Aeon of Science 1800 - Present  


This one could have started with DiVinci, or just have been a continuation of the commercial polytheism aeon. But the Vatican and Protestant church liked killing heretics so it was repressed maliciously. 


I start it with the industrial revolution and incorporation of mechanized technology. The scientific advances slowly suffocated the voices of clergy proclaiming blasphemy on knowledge. 


The current Aeon is as much the undoing of the last as much as that was the undoing of the previous. 


Signature Mode of Attainment :  nondual atheism 


The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jun 26 '21
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 27 '21
I would say the history of science goes hand in hand with the history of the lens, in particular the history of the microscope and the telescope.


Humanity knew intuitively that there was more to reality than what they could see with the naked eye. There were invisible factors at work. Books and priests purported to be portals into the invisible realm, but lo and behold, the true portals were products of the glassmaker.





The Forum post is edited by Wolfie Jun 27 '21
talisman
talisman Jun 28 '21
I would gladly agree to this, if it wasn't wrong. Humanity could see with the naked eye a lot of things. Most of what today is thought as a breakthrough, was already known for many years ago. It was put to the fridge because the powers that had the upper hand didn't want that knowledge to be known to the public.
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 28 '21

Quote from talisman I would gladly agree to this, if it wasn't wrong. Humanity could see with the naked eye a lot of things. Most of what today is thought as a breakthrough, was already known for many years ago. It was put to the fridge because the powers that had the upper hand didn't want that knowledge to be known to the public.

Pretending to contribute to threads won't help you now, dipshit. You blew your cover with your stupid "watch me delete myself from the time line" stunt. There's no longer any question as to whether you're a troll. The jury has rendered its verdict.



talisman
talisman Jun 28 '21
You're still whining. 
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jun 28 '21

Quote from Wolfie I would say the history of science goes hand in hand with the history of the lens, in particular the history of the microscope and the telescope.


Humanity knew intuitively that there was more to reality than what they could see with the naked eye. There were invisible factors at work. Books and priests purported to be portals into the invisible realm, but lo and behold, the true portals were products of the glassmaker.






I see what you did there. 


Through what lens could we eventually discern that organizing principle? 


I agree though, the "need to see it" works both ways and could just as easily be used to  supress knowledge.  


The real difference I see is one likes being wrong, one doesn't. 


I can't handle this non-ammendable shit that refuses to drop extraneous placeholders and pull their head out of their specious logic. 


You see it with these "religious" accounts.  They might as well all be saying, "Lalalala, I refuse to hear anything except my narrow bias world view and refuse to accept anything that says I might be wrong". 


That's how human inventions like language and counting methods end up incontrovertible gifts to decode divinity. Troll or not its a very real tendency. The "Bible Code" (Equal letter distancing matrixes) are believed for the same bias and idiotic reasons. And good luck to those who try to point out exactly why they're uncritical idiots.  


Zach or Baphomets, will you make this the featured video since there's no 600 club anymore to keep it posted on the front page? 



The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jun 28 '21
Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Jun 28 '21
I will watch it in a bit when I have more time and see if it's worthy. :)
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jun 28 '21
Come on, help me bait the superstitious. I hate to say that's my only motive, but that's my only motive. It's as cathartic as a Danish Intellectual Decompression Chamber for me. 
The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jun 28 '21
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 30 '21
My favorite part of Dark Enlightenment's video is the artwork, which seems to have been influenced by Silver Age Marvel Comics, in particular the works of Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko.


But yes, the words were cool too.


Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 30 '21
I often like to pose the question: What evidence would suffice for you to believe in a Supreme Being of any kind?


For example, if you were outdoors at 3AM and looked up at the full moon, only to notice colossal words had been carved on its face, and those words said, "I AM" - would that suffice? (Not for me.)



talisman
talisman Jun 30 '21
I'll give you this, people that want to believe to a supreme being would see the words "I AM" carved. What is often considered as "fact" or "reality" is not. It may be what one wants to believe. 
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 30 '21

Quote from talisman I'll give you this, people that want to believe to a supreme being would see the words "I AM" carved. What is often considered as "fact" or "reality" is not. It may be what one wants to believe. 


Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 2 '21

Quote from Wolfie I often like to pose the question: What evidence would suffice for you to believe in a Supreme Being of any kind?


For example, if you were outdoors at 3AM and looked up at the full moon, only to notice colossal words had been carved on its face, and those words said, "I AM" - would that suffice? (Not for me.)



I have to see it. It doesn't get the pass gravitational waves got through inferred existence and indirect data.  (Thanks LIGO!)


One could invoke the Proto-chicken and argue the physical and entropic laws of this universe itself are evidence of divinity and prior cause, but even that falls apart in the realm of causeless phenomenon, like spontaneous little ripples in a scaler field.  


The title of the article says it all, but at least the causeless is probable...


Yet the more they learn, the more prior cause looks superfluous. 

The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jul 2 '21
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jul 2 '21

Quote from Wolfie I often like to pose the question: What evidence would suffice for you to believe in a Supreme Being of any kind?

A deity as it relates to deism. Nature, diversity, and quality. The things I have seen and pondered from day to day, year to year, so on and so forth.

Wolfie
Wolfie Jul 3 '21

For me nothing would suffice to make me a theist, because anything I can detect with my senses or instruments isn't God, and anything I can't detect with my senses or instruments isn't objectively real. This paradox makes theism impossible for me.

 

A super-colossal mouth in outer space, eating stars like jelly beans? Not God, because to know of the mouth's existence we would have had to detect it with our senses or instruments, which means the ultimate difference between it and ourselves is one of degree, not kind. It's not God, it's just big.


A postulated first cause, of which all we can detect with our senses or instruments is the effect? Not objectively real, because by definition it can't be detected with our senses or instruments, since all we can detect with our senses or instruments would be its effect.


The objectively real in its totality simply is, without need of explanation. Only its particulars require explanation, like moons and moths and mud pies.



Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jul 3 '21
Quote from Wolfie

For me nothing would suffice to make me a theist, because anything I can detect with my senses or instruments isn't God, and anything I can't detect with my senses or instruments isn't objectively real. This paradox makes theism impossible for me.


A word means nothing without its' accompanying definition, and a mundane definition for "God" is the very reason why some would call themselves a deist as opposed to a "theist".


I suppose my belief is somewhat the opposite here, and that's okay. If the things I observe every day are not God(per my definition) nor evidence of it, then I don't what is, or could be.


In actuality, "real" only becomes what we are familiar with and accustomed to. Real is only what you see at the surface. It's superficial; it's an illusion, and the truth is much deeper than that. IMMHO.

The Forum post is edited by Cornelius Coburn Jul 3 '21
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