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A Satanist is one who questions conventional societal norms, the Satanist/Setian/differing LHP practitioners of the West, is at best a skeptic/critical thinker. The Satanist/Setian/WLHP practitioner does not consider themselves to be a part of the herd of society. Instead the WLHP practitioner seeks that separation from the natural order of the physical universe (Objective Universe). As I have stated earlier on the subject of Sovereignty and its synonyms of autonomy, Independence, that is the ultimate goal on the Western Left Hand Path. It's goal being to awaken the individual's intellect, making the individual become more aware of his or her own godhood. The Left Hand Path being central to the individual does not seek any form of collectivism. Basically the Left Hand Path as practiced in the West, is psyche/self centered. The Satanist does not care about having this hippie way of thinking, of caring about humanity. The Satanist/WLHP practitioner accepts reality the way as it is.

We on the Left Hand Path do not bow down to external authorities in a religious way, instead it is a focus of the self, we are our own gods or we are at least seeking that godhood. Because Satanism and the western Left Hand Path goes against both on the cosmic level, as well as societal norms/the status quo, you will have those that will try to bring you down to their level. You will even have those who will strongly try to degrade you, express their diatribe's of your outlooks, and also try to argue with you that they are "right" and you are not. It takes a great amount of bravery and courage for one to remain on the Left Hand Path.

The Left Hand Path is not for the weak, it is for the strong and the few. In order for one to seek that Sovereignty of godhood, one must throw out the indoctrinations that was programmed in them from childhood. Antinomianism is part of Left Hand Path practice's, through this antinomianism one is able to become a liberated, permanent, independent, and enlightened individual. 

It often takes years to get rid of these indoctrinations whether it is political, Abrahamic, or not. Since this might be a repetition of what I am about to say, I feel it is important to repeat it. The Western Left Hand Path does not seek a union with god, instead we seek a non union with god and the universe. A person on the Right Hand Path chooses to seek a union with the Universe and God, hence destroying the ego/self/self consciousness in order to be a part of that Universe, either seeking a heaven/nirvana like state, or having the herd like state of society.

Others I'd add to the learn Satanism reading list are; Thus Spoke Zarathustra, The Lucifer Principle,  and The God Delusion.  After Anton gives you the materialist rundown, those three will help you zero in on the why to the drone tendencies of human behavior. 

Quote from PraxisHello.

My name is Praxis. Just recently turned 24 years old last month.

I don't have any experience with Satanism... however, I hope I could still be accepted.

I'm probably having a sort of... identity crisis. For years, I followed the teachings of Islam piously--perhaps almost to the extreme. Up until mid-last year, I used to wear long hijab and clothing...

then I took it all off.


Questioning my faith that the majority of society in my country shoved on me; which they tell me, that it's the best for me... I'm not sure anymore, what if my faith is just my imagination?

How could we be sure of it?


And here... I just would like to know what it really means to be a "Satanist".

Looking forward to learn from everyone here.

Practicing Satanism in many Islamic societies could get you stoned to death in an honor killing. And the oppositional nature of the LHP would do it. After all it's the tendency in Muslim culture of women defying the laws of society, and getting off on crossing those lines. Like the first Saudi woman that dared to drive.  It would be the tendency to think and do things with harsh and inhumane consequences if exposed.

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Discarding faith is just the start.  If you're saying to yourself,  "This thing you call faith seems like a control tactic that ultimately doesn't do anything useful in my life except keep me in blind submission to authoritative ideals", Satanism might be of use. 

Thank you for the concise explanation and the book recommendations, AlexTheTerrible and Dark Enlightenment. I'm going to check them all out. I already have The Satanic Bible and The Devil's Notebook... I shall contemplate one thing at a time, I suppose...

Since what was explained is the Western Left Hand Path, I wonder if there's such thing as "Eastern" Left Hand Path practitioner here...

It was the fundamentalist college environment which changed me, and I thought I really believed in what they preached... after I moved out, I just turn back to my former self, except... worse (or is it better, in a Satanic sense?).

I still can't say for sure that faith didn't do anything useful for me, but now I do think that religion is a form of social control, which... can be a good thing to keep away the masses from chaos and disorder? (...but not for me, as I'm feeling...individualist)

...as I also can't imagine a society without this kind of order... not in my country, at least. Except if all the citizens are already highly educated and critical thinkers, probably.

From a quick online search, Indonesia seems to be fairly democratic, with ethnic, cultural and religious diversity. Although the Muslims are the majority, the system is far less oppressive. So no I don't think she's going to be incarcerated or killed for being an atheist or even a Satanist. I'm not sure though about other less formal consequences, like being ostracized by the society or being denounced by one's family.

@Praxis,

Hello and welcome to the forum. You seem to be fairly intelligent and open-minded. I hope you will find something for yourself here. Also, apart from learning from others, feel free to share your perspective and information about your country and culture. It would be kind of refreshing to see other perspectives than American ones.

And now here I am. I also read in that thread... there were Muslims too here? which was said by @Dark Enlightenment :)

I guess my journey started from... indulging in negative emotions, particularly... wrath. It's a rather long story related to family issues. And I was also probably affected by... music. Starting from December last year, there were moments where I kept listening to the The Omen theme, "Ave Satani". I don't really know why I resorted to it, either.

From liking classical & baroque music, I turned to the metal genre. From being a sad girl to an angry girl. I started to be more and more liberated with the opposite sex, whereas for 5 years, I strongly believed that it was a sin to just mingle with them casually, if it's without a really important reason...

Meanwhile, I was still forcing myself to pray five times a day, although it only made me resentful. On February, I stumbled across Powerwolf's music video of "Demons Are a Girl's Best Friend". I was shocked--at first. It hit me on a spiritual level. I feel like one of those nuns, falling into depravity. But then... I kept listening to it, as if self-confirming that it's indeed what I am now... albeit in a grim way.

On this year's Ramadan, ironically, I left prayers completely.

Well... it would still be frowned upon to be an atheist publicly here, as it goes against the first Indonesian Pancasila, "Belief in ONE Almighty God". I still haven't made any firm decision about this too, I'm afraid; I've been drifting a lot... in high school-early college it was Christianity, and a few months ago I tried to learn Buddhism, meditation etc. Yet every now and then, I drift to this... dark path...

I wonder how everyone's journeys here like?

As for the identity crisis , I might be of help to you, giving that I am from Strict Muslim family (maybe more strict than yours, giving that I am Arabic from Iraq).

I have managed to find a way that makes me live in peace with my Satanism ( Lilithian here).

I hope I can be of help to you , and we can discuss your feelings if you like

Welcome again and Ave Satanas, Ave Lilitto

Well... I'm actually a Christian but nearly nobody around here believes that. And I don't even know why I'm here, honestly. Although I've been here for ten years and even read most of the literature, when someone asks me why, I can't really give any sensible and coherent explanation. It's some sort of a peculiar habit.

Oddly enough though, I'm even still in the process of making sense out of it, but it has to do with Kabbalah and what is situated above the crown of the tree of life which is negative existence, and this would be in opposition to M-theory, or, multiverse theories which exist within a static spacetime.

Above the primordial (zero) point resides the ain soph aur. Which in layman terms has to do with this (limitless) light and its' emergence from this negative existence. Ain : nothing; soph : no limit, and aur : the limitless light.

An acausal component fits nicely with this even if by necessity; if there is nothing in existence than there is nothing to cause anything. If you combine the first two parts of the negative existence you have the ain soph which is like an initial description of infinite polarity. On the one end you have nothing and on the other you have infinite potential - no limit.

So the concept of 'nothing' as it relates to existence is quite a bit different than as it relates to non-existence where you have this mysterious acausal that somehow facilitates a bridge between the two. A paradox, but when it comes to existence unavoidable. Either you are left with the question of how something can exist without a beginning, or how something can come from nothing.