What does Satanism Mean To You?? | Forum

Fox_Spirit
Fox_Spirit May 19


((As a newbie coming in here, I've found that different people have a wide views on this, depending on their background and what they have been told, or research they have done themselves.

I figure this might be a good place to get the questions out the way and get answers from people who really know about this stuff - I'm just trying to learn and in no way mean to offend anyone.))



The Etymology which means the original origin and development of a word.Etymology of Satanism

It says Quote:
''proper name of the supreme evil spirit and great adversary of humanity in Christianity, Old English Satan, from Late Latin Satan (in Vulgate in the Old Testament only), from Greek Satanas, from Hebrew satan "adversary, one who plots against another," from satan "to show enmity to, oppose, plot against," from root s-t-n "one who opposes, obstructs, or acts as an adversary."Which comes from the word Satan.'' end quote.

So right away it's labeled as something that is Evil, yet evil means different things to different people, adversary, oppose, plot against, obstructs, hell you can attach that to many things, the Canadian government for example and the way they oppose the freedom of the people, with the treating the Truckers like terrorists.

Let's carry on, 
Etymology of Satan.  quote: "In biblical sources the Hebrew term the satan describes an adversarial role. It is Not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity." end quote.

So they are talking about Spiritual beings here not just one specific, they are rebels, independent thinkers with their own mind. my 1st Question is:

1.) Do you believe Lucifer is Satan?



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Rune
Rune May 20
Nope, Lucifer is the Morning Star, or Venus. It's only Christians that made him be Satan, even though Satan was just the opposition to God.
donot
donot May 20
Apart from what is usually said, Satan is no opposition but the lord of evil. Maybe if you try to rationalize it, it may look like some kind of opposition to something. But in the end it is just something different that you cannot understand.
Dantalion
Dantalion May 21
The Satanic Bible is your best bet to get a bare bones grasp on real Satanism.
Geraldo Respuesta NUTZ
What does Satanism mean to me? 


A means to an end.  


Meaning I used Satanism to piss people off that told me what to do. I embraced 'Satanism' by embracing behavior I believed they would get pissed at. Thats pretty much it too.


Satanism was/is used when someone tried to mold or advise me of my behavior in a needless authoritative way. The more condescending and self-important (domineering and imposing) the more I would want to make that person hate me. At least that's how I ended up using it. 


Like a transatlantic Nazi zeppelin it is.  A transgressive vehicle to get you where you want to go. And like a Nazi blimp it may explode spectacularly at some point. So be advised. 



The Forum post is edited by Geraldo Respuesta May 22
Satanist since more than a decade

Quote from Geraldo Respuesta What does Satanism mean to me? 


A means to an end.  


Meaning I used Satanism to piss people off that told me what to do. I embraced 'Satanism' by embracing behavior I believed they would get pissed at. Thats pretty much it too.


Satanism was/is used when someone tried to mold or advise me of my behavior in a needless authoritative way. The more condescending and self-important (domineering and imposing) the more I would want to make that person hate me. At least that's how I ended up using it. 


Like a transatlantic Nazi zeppelin it is.  A transgressive vehicle to get you where you want to go. And like a Nazi blimp it may explode spectacularly at some point. So be advised. 



So... basically it boils down to using it as an excuse for having a childish tantrum to you?

To each their own I guess. 


Geraldo Respuesta NUTZ
Yup... Just being honest is all.  


Probably do it every time too.


The methodology of face spiting/nose cutting.  But it just feels better.  


I'm a lot like the guy that gets told to slow down driving through an apartment complex (because of children playing), can't handle being told how to behave by a random person, and comes back with an AR-15 to shoot up their party later.  Disrespect of daring to tell me how to behave in a rent-a-cop like way, even if they're right, is not approached rationally. 


And like the guy who actually did that in real life I am likely to take a 9mm round to the skull from someone at the party in the process. All superdominant monkey shit. Die by the sword. 


But, It's who I am. It's my Crowley-esque true will and authentic self. May as well own it. 


A mentality like this or Nicky Santoro.



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This one needs context too:


Satanism was/is used when someone tried to mold or advise me of my behavior in a needless authoritative way. The more condescending and self-important (domineering and imposing) the more I would want to make that person hate me. At least that's how I ended up using it. 


This was riffing in reference to the woman of my real life (and one or two a few years back online). The types I engage with and how I approach it when they try to "mold my behavior". Especially the use of sex. I must have a castrating psycho fetish or something because i always date ones that try to use it as leverage.  I see it like systematic training and I'd rather have them more like a bottom bitch then dictating anything through subtle manipulation.  So satanism there is actively opposing their attempted manipulation.


Insults to the ego or will (even correct ones) still cause an over-the-top reaction that finds dispicable justification in Satanism for me. Which doesn't sit well if you're one of them refined or mature Satanists.  

The Forum post is edited by Geraldo Respuesta May 27
Satanist since more than a decade
It is a more genuine approach than most I have seen. 

I'll give you that. 

AlexTheTerrible
So, "What does Satanism mean to you?" From reading the title of this thread I figured to put in my two cents in. Normally, I rarely look at posts that would talk about "praying for father Satan,"  "Satan blesses you," you name it. My words on here will simply get to the point on what Satanism means for me. Satanism is a life affirming/selfish/self indulgent/Might is Right/Elitist philosophy, for me it is about enjoying the here and now. I realize that anytime of the day I could be long gone, so why not enjoy this life here and now? Satanism for me gets to the point on the perspectives of human nature itself. It is a philosophy of awareness, personal responsibility, and extreme individualism. The Satanic philosophy is a non conformist viewpoint and lifestyle. It's not really about listening to Black Metal and pointing up the horns, its rather a critical thinkers philosophy. It is who I am as a person, it is my identity, "Satanists are born, not made."
The Forum post is edited by AlexTheTerrible Jun 9
donot
donot Jun 12
So, is it hereditary? A Demon seed? I would rather say it is made, not made up. 
AlexTheTerrible

Quote from donot So, is it hereditary? A Demon seed? I would rather say it is made, not made up. 
I come from a more LaVeyan school of thought, if you are familiar on Anton LaVey? You're either a Satanist, or you're not. By being born a Satanist, it is something you come to realize. Not sure, on what your viewpoints are, but I don't go for the whole nonsense on "Demon seeds," "hereditary," etc. I come from a more practical/intellectual background, instead of bending my knees and "praying to father Satan." 


 Let me ask you a question, you say "it is made."  Well, lets say if you became a Mormon, a Catholic, a Muslim, etc. Yes it made you, but then you decided to leave any of these religions, over its contradictions and its strict repressive rules of conduct. Open up the Satanic Bible, everything fits the bill, it accepts your true animalistic self, and you come to realize this is who you truly are or always have been as a person.


As far as trying to not go off subject, I acknowledge LaVey as the man who codified Satanism. Yes, you have the o9a, Venus Satanas, etc. But, in my opinion LaVey was the one who first codified it, and a few others including the owner of S.I.N will agree with me on this. 


Not interested in arguing if Satanism makes you, as that is a pointless waist of time. You can either agree or disagree. But from seeing the title of this thread, I figured it won't hurt to add my own two cents in.


Now you can make the argument, well wouldn't some people leave Satanism like other conventional religions? Yes, but some of us have also evolved from it and are still practicing the Left Hand Path with these Satanic principles. Some of us acknowledge that it is the first thing that lead us on the path, while some of us also still carry the Satanic philosophy as we have evolved on the path. I myself have evolved, and still acknowledge Satanism as the personal thing that has shaped me to who I am today. I still carry on the Satanic philosophy. 


Those who left Satanism and went on to become a christian again, a wiccan, realize that it isn't who they are as a person. Some people feel the need to put on the label of "Satanist" even though some realize it isn't really for them, just as how some try to practice the Left Hand Path and realize that they need to step aside. Satanism is for the few, just as how the Left Hand Path is for the few. 


As far as hearing on how others have gone with labels calling themselves "Right Hand Path Satanists," it is something I peacefully disagree. Going back to my previous wordings, "you're either a Satanist, or you're not."

donot
donot Jun 16
I am not sure. I am either this or that. What for? Does it really mean something for me, or is it a way for others to categorise me and control me? Just think about it. 
AlexTheTerrible

Quote from donot I am not sure. I am either this or that. What for? Does it really mean something for me, or is it a way for others to categorise me and control me? Just think about it. 
I fail to understand the point that you are trying to make. "I am not sure. I am either this or that. What for?" You make the assumption that I am confused of who I am as a person. Which I am not. The Left Hand Path has always been a non dogmatic form of practice, that is what separates the Left Hand Path practitioner from the Right Hand Path practitioner who is a part of a conventional institution.  "Does it really mean something for me, or is it a way for others to categorise me and control me? Just think about it."    I already have. You see I have encountered plenty of people who assume that just because I subscribe to Satanic philosophy would mean that I am a "follower," which I am not. As a matter of fact my interest doesn't necessarily lie in just only Satanism, but rather understanding Nietzsche, some Norse mythology, Setian philosophy, anything that I find to be beneficial as a Left Hand Path practitioner. Just because I read every book from every well known person that pioneered the Western Left Hand Path, that doesn't mean that I follow everything word for word. I take what I feel fits the bill.


A person on the Left Hand Path does not believe in following what others dictate. Nor does a Satanist or other practitioners on the Left Hand Path believe in treating something as a holy book to follow by pretending to agree on what is said or stated.


This is what makes a person on the Left Hand Path stand out from those who come from RHP conventional institutions, in which a person from that conventional institution would allow others to categorize and control them.


Being a Satanist is part of the individuals own human nature. The Satanist does not try to pretend something in which he is not. That label is something that means something for he or she. Satanism is a philosophy that's never going to be abandoned from me. I have evolved, and others who've known me in person would make the assumption that Satanism was just something that I outgrew. But they are simply wrong, it has always been a life loving philosophy for me, it is who I am as a person and it is a meaning for me. Even though I don't go for the title "Satanist" anymore, but instead as a "Satian" (a combination of Satanic/Setian philosophy), Satanism will always be a part of who I am, and that is what the term for me means on "Satanists are born, not made." 




The Forum post is edited by AlexTheTerrible Jun 18
donot
donot Jun 20
You can be born whatever you want but you see you don't choose what you're born. On the other hand you can say you can choose what you are. The right to choose is essential I think. Evolution is a part of our everyday, no matter how you may want to ignore it. There is a value in the fact that we are born, there is a completely different value given by saying WHAT we are born. 
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