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Dec 14 '17
Could they have found a more unattractive female spokes person? AK and Dread can you imagine trying to have a beer in public with any of these people?The thing about Gilmore is that, I see in him an actually pretty decent, respectable, intelligent, congenial, articulate, and talented person.
He'd probably make a better scout leader than most scout leaders - which, in turn, makes him well-suited for those "Satanists" whose emotional needs hinge upon progression, rank, pats on the back, etc... and good bog there are a lot of them:
^would you want the job of patting their asses in exchange for $200 per head? Anything less than ten times that is charitable, in my opinion.
While LaVey could easily handle both roles - there's really no voice for the more earthy, hands-in-the-dirt, visceral, societal malcontents that, let's face it, the word "Satanism" attracts. The culture-jammers. The Boyd Rice types.
But that's how it should be, anyway. The mission-statement is as easily interpreted as it is well-understood.
There is no need to phone home, and besides! there is no home to call back-to, anyhow. Go forth and let the currents do what they do.
Disavow any association with anyone - "organization of non-joiners" that it is and all.
Little known fact the CoS hasz a black list. I found this out when I tried to get a picture with a certain person of the administration. He said to me ' I like you Zach but no pictures. You are on the black list. I will lose my status within the Church if these pictures are public' . my response was ' Are you serious? Do you really want to belong to a organization that determines who you can not be friends with' ?
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Owner/Admin
Dec 15 '17
@AK47 the grand poo-bahs of the CoS will not share that info with scum run of the mill not card carrying members but I know myself, Lucian Greaves , Brian Werner and anyone who does not blow Gilmore is probably on that list who has gotten any media attention.
Show us your tits Gilmore or kill yourself you little evil garden knob.
Anna
Dec 15 '17
I wonder if I now sent my application papers to the CoS together with $200 fee, whether they would check that I'm a Catholic. I'm willing to bet that in spite of all those rumors about the black list, if I payed my dues here and there, I would be allowed to carry on with a dual membership without one or the other organization giving a shit. I think that as long as you aren't outspoken about your affiliations, nobody really bothers to investigate into the matter.
Also the religious leaders have as much power over you as you are willing to grant them. I read that CoS bunco sheet a while ago and one sentence made my day:
There are unethical individuals out there who want to prey on you.
If you let others prey on you, does it really make sense to call yourself a Satanist? What difference does that make?
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Erebus Imperium
Oct 15
I have read TSB and TSR and, on my merry way evaluating the CoS, I am now reading TSS by Gilmore. I have thought of it more as a TSB/TSR commentary, explaining the original foundational texts by Anton S. LaVey. I have enjoyed it until page 112 where "Diabolus In Musica" begins. It felt like being on the Titanic at the moment it hit the fateful iceberg and started sinking.
This section is narrowly focused on classical, broadway and film musical compositions and leaves out a plethora of other musical genres that also inspire Satanists. I say this despite having a love of classical music as I was violinist for nine years. I am tediously reading this section and, while I appreciate his knowledge and critical analysis of this vital but narrow view of music, I can't wait to get past it. I get that he speaking for CoS is employing its cherished discriminating tastes toward music, however what about covering Satanic elements in Beatles compositions as an example? I think Gilmore's intention of writing a section covering Satanic music characteristics was appropriate, but his employed scope missed the mark.
Owner Zach Black
Nov 5
Agreed. I have read all those books you mentioned several times over and I did notice LaVey dislikes rock music. He scarcely gives it great but up until the end after the Satanic Panic. Possibly it was just his age I mean he was born in 1930. Maybe when rock finally took stage in the 50's LaVey was simply hated it.
One thing to remember about LaVey is he had very specific likes, dislikes even odd neurotic ones. Example, he did not wear deodorant as he felt smelling like a bum would attract women. Sure that is a theory. But pretty sure most people most women will disagree.
He also would fart whenever he walked into a room of strangers or women to establish dominance and excite the women.
He also included some very odd books in the bibliography of the Satanic Witch. One was called something like Scatology rites of nations. LaVey was into shit, piss and stink. He preferred chubby pale women who pee'd themselves on command.
I remember the TSS. Read it when it was released. I do not recall much of the details but the fact that I only read it once makes me suspect I was not impressed. Gilmore is a smart guy and all but he did not really bring much to the table and to this day sits around parroting LaVey.
There is a book called Lucifers rising about metal in the Satanic Panic and rock influence in general. That would be best for anyone interested in that specific area. I started writing long essays about Satanism influence in media especially music. I am not talking about the obvious ones in death metal bands either. I am talking about major bands, TV shows etc that influences millions of people. They are able to do this because they actually apply principles of lesser magic influence and manipulate the masses, current trends etc to something more align to our own. FAR more sinister than a death metal singer with upside down crosses.
If anyone cares to have a understanding of these applied principles of lesser magic start reading those two books in the back of the bibliography of the Satanic Witch. I prefer the psychology, sociology or scientific ones best.
I have read TSB and TSR and, on my merry way evaluating the CoS, I am now reading TSS by Gilmore. I have thought of it more as a TSB/TSR commentary, explaining the original foundational texts by Anton S. LaVey. I have enjoyed it until page 112 where "Diabolus In Musica" begins. It felt like being on the Titanic at the moment it hit the fateful iceberg and started sinking.
This section is narrowly focused on classical, broadway and film musical compositions and leaves out a plethora of other musical genres that also inspire Satanists. I say this despite having a love of classical music as I was violinist for nine years. I am tediously reading this section and, while I appreciate his knowledge and critical analysis of this vital but narrow view of music, I can't wait to get past it. I get that he speaking for CoS is employing its cherished discriminating tastes toward music, however what about covering Satanic elements in Beatles compositions as an example? I think Gilmore's intention of writing a section covering Satanic music characteristics was appropriate, but his employed scope missed the mark.
Evilishious
Nov 5
Is Peter H Gilmore book even worth reading? Sorry I am sure you can find some solid gems but there are better places. As Mr Black pointed out the back end of references ( bibliography ) is good. I heard you mention the bibliography of the Satanic Witch and even talk about a few of them on YouTube. That would have never in a thousand year have occurred to me to look there. It saved me from fumbling around new-age book stores reading popnik occultists college essays.
Most of those book in the Satanic Witch bibliography are long out of print. Sometimes you shall get lucky. I just did and scored a rare gem paper back edition of one of those bibliography books called - Women the Dominate Sex - .
. Thank you again Mr Black and I told you I would be in a few years with something to bring to the table and contribute. xXOo
You know I thought I watched a video about those bibliography book on YouTube. Maybe if you can find it Mr Black you have yourself a featured video AND it lead off of this thread!
Agreed. I have read all those books you mentioned several times over and I did notice LaVey dislikes rock music. He scarcely gives it great but up until the end after the Satanic Panic. Possibly it was just his age I mean he was born in 1930. Maybe when rock finally took stage in the 50's LaVey was simply hated it.
One thing to remember about LaVey is he had very specific likes, dislikes even odd neurotic ones. Example, he did not wear deodorant as he felt smelling like a bum would attract women. Sure that is a theory. But pretty sure most people most women will disagree.
He also would fart whenever he walked into a room of strangers or women to establish dominance and excite the women.
He also included some very odd books in the bibliography of the Satanic Witch. One was called something like Scatology rites of nations. LaVey was into shit, piss and stink. He preferred chubby pale women who pee'd themselves on command.
I remember the TSS. Read it when it was released. I do not recall much of the details but the fact that I only read it once makes me suspect I was not impressed. Gilmore is a smart guy and all but he did not really bring much to the table and to this day sits around parroting LaVey.
There is a book called Lucifers rising about metal in the Satanic Panic and rock influence in general. That would be best for anyone interested in that specific area. I started writing long essays about Satanism influence in media especially music. I am not talking about the obvious ones in death metal bands either. I am talking about major bands, TV shows etc that influences millions of people. They are able to do this because they actually apply principles of lesser magic influence and manipulate the masses, current trends etc to something more align to our own. FAR more sinister than a death metal singer with upside down crosses.
If anyone cares to have a understanding of these applied principles of lesser magic start reading those two books in the back of the bibliography of the Satanic Witch. I prefer the psychology, sociology or scientific ones best.
Anything by Wilhelm Reich will blow your mind if you understand it.
I have read TSB and TSR and, on my merry way evaluating the CoS, I am now reading TSS by Gilmore. I have thought of it more as a TSB/TSR commentary, explaining the original foundational texts by Anton S. LaVey. I have enjoyed it until page 112 where "Diabolus In Musica" begins. It felt like being on the Titanic at the moment it hit the fateful iceberg and started sinking.
This section is narrowly focused on classical, broadway and film musical compositions and leaves out a plethora of other musical genres that also inspire Satanists. I say this despite having a love of classical music as I was violinist for nine years. I am tediously reading this section and, while I appreciate his knowledge and critical analysis of this vital but narrow view of music, I can't wait to get past it. I get that he speaking for CoS is employing its cherished discriminating tastes toward music, however what about covering Satanic elements in Beatles compositions as an example? I think Gilmore's intention of writing a section covering Satanic music characteristics was appropriate, but his employed scope missed the mark.
