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ShadowLover Member
ShadowLover May 2 '16
Frater, some Empaths are antisocial simply because they get tired of absorbing everybody else's energy. I'm an Empath - I'm not antisocial but I do prefer my social life in limited doses and on my terms. In other words, I can rock a party when I want to, but I can also be found reclusing quite happily for months at a time. I like my home to be a sanctuary.


Sanara, Empaths and Psychopaths are like opposites - you can't be properly apathetic and empathetic at the same time. Pychopaths are not capable of empathy - that's what makes them psychopaths. If you are highly empathic which I believe you are, I'd say you put up defences which may be mistaken (even by yourself) as psychopathic and sociopathic behaviour. eg. You may be able to detach or cut somebody off completely without feeling anything. Empaths sometimes do this to resist absorbing negative energy. Empaths can enact the inner robot to get through mud.

ManxLoaghtan Member
ManxLoaghtan May 2 '16

These are the traits I have from your lists: 


Sociopath:

1. Superficial charm & good intelligence.

2. Absence of delusions. Rational.

5. Untruthfulness and Insincerity... only when dealing with people who are irrelevant to me. 

7. Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior... very much so, to the point of arrest.

12. Unresponsive in interpersonal relations... extreamly.

13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior

16. Failure to follow any life plan.



Empath.

1. Feeling others' emotions and taking them on as your own.

2. You experience things like chronic fatigue, environmental sensitivities.

3. Huge strides for truth... hell yeah! can take over life at times!

4. You find routine, rules, or control imprisoning.

5. You know stuff without being told.

6. Sensitivity to TV, videos, movies, news etc... can not watch news or read papers, hardly watch films and never TV. 

7. Being in public places can be either very overwhelming... hate public places. 

8. Strangers are attracted to you and find you easy to talk to.

9. You can be the life of the party but you can also get very quiet.

10. Emotions can be confusing.


I never even watched your video to test for Psychopath hate anything to do with animal, child cruelty... and already know that! 


This topic is interesting; ol' grimey says a lot that I can relate to especially about family, mostly the "mother" who never was a mother in my case, and rather than subduing emotion, they at times are just not there. I can relate to those statements but have never really thought why, as it seems I am more empathetic, and I know I suffer from other peoples emotions to the point I can not tolerate being around public or in society at all. 



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ManxLoaghtan Member
ManxLoaghtan May 2 '16

Quote from FraterLuciferi
Quote from ShadowLover Frater, some Empaths are antisocial simply because they get tired of absorbing everybody else's energy.

Then I'm an empath because I created a shield because I was tired of feeling other people's emotion like they were my own.
I do the same! i become numb to others around me at times, to protect myself... almost uncaring to the point of emotionless. 
ShadowLover Member
ShadowLover May 2 '16
I once knew a woman who was a diagnosed sociopath with a schitzoaffective component. She was a neighbour.


She was great company! Highly intelligent! And I mean highly off the charts intelligent. I remember she would tell us stories, and she would be talking about one thing and then be talking about something else in general conversation. Sometime during the night everything she said would go woop woop and you would have this ultimate realisation tied up in a neat little bow in front of your face and you would just spin the fuck out! It's hard to explain, but I have never ever come across her type of intelligence before. I believe I have above average intelligence and so did my boyfriend(that's one of the reasons that she liked hanging with us), but we came nowhere near her in the IQ department. I never met anyone else that has. We used to talk about it after she left and wonder how in the hell she did it. She was like a mystery novel where you have layers and layers and they all supported each other, only her stories had like thirty layers and she's just pull them out of her arse like it was nothing - you never saw the mind-blowing, shocking ending coming. But she had us tapped and was grooming us for it the whole night and we had no idea until the whammy hit.


She lacked empathy but she was highly intelligent enough to be able to mimic it. Occasionally when she was drinking you would see a flash of the sociopath and it was fucking scary. I'd be hurt because she scared me and she would apologise the next day.


She may have been a psychopath, too. I'm not sure. She had been to jail for killing her ex husband but in her defence he was abusive and she only got four years. 



ol' grimey
ol' grimey May 22 '16

Quote from Catharsis420 Interesting topic as I'm currently reading "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M.E. Thomas which is a fascinating memoir about a successful Trial Lawyer and Sunday School Teacher who has managed to go through her life undetected as a sociopath. It's an enthralling book that's nothing like what you would expect. I'd definitely recommend it. 


As far as I go, I see myself as a dark minded empath. I do have a conscience and feel remorse, and I value the friends and family I have that actually give a shit about me. However, I do see the world as a dark and malevolent place and feel that I have to act accordingly for self-preservation and to protect those I care about, but in the end I still try to be a good person. 

What happened to your other profile, and how did you mange to say verbatim as it is now as you did under the other profile name "Ravenrevelation420?
ol' grimey
ol' grimey May 22 '16

Quote from Catharsis420
Quote from ol' grimey
Quote from Catharsis420 Interesting topic as I'm currently reading "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M.E. Thomas which is a fascinating memoir about a successful Trial Lawyer and Sunday School Teacher who has managed to go through her life undetected as a sociopath. It's an enthralling book that's nothing like what you would expect. I'd definitely recommend it. 


As far as I go, I see myself as a dark minded empath. I do have a conscience and feel remorse, and I value the friends and family I have that actually give a shit about me. However, I do see the world as a dark and malevolent place and feel that I have to act accordingly for self-preservation and to protect those I care about, but in the end I still try to be a good person. 

What happened to your other profile, and how did you mange to say verbatim as it is now as you did under the other profile name
Quote from ol' grimey
Quote from Catharsis420 Interesting topic as I'm currently reading "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M.E. Thomas which is a fascinating memoir about a successful Trial Lawyer and Sunday School Teacher who has managed to go through her life undetected as a sociopath. It's an enthralling book that's nothing like what you would expect. I'd definitely recommend it. 


As far as I go, I see myself as a dark minded empath. I do have a conscience and feel remorse, and I value the friends and family I have that actually give a shit about me. However, I do see the world as a dark and malevolent place and feel that I have to act accordingly for self-preservation and to protect those I care about, but in the end I still try to be a good person. 

What happened to your other profile, and how did you mange to say verbatim as it is now as you did under the other profile name "Ravenrevelation420?

"Ravenrevelation420?
I deleted the other profile on impulse when I got pissed at something trivial someone said when I was drunk and then when I sobered up I made another profile and apologized for my behavior and now I'd REALLY like to move on if you don't mind. And to answer your other question; good memory I guess? I dunno. 
Yes, I do mind...no I'm just messing with you. lol  to really move on is not to repeat the same behaviors/actions that produce the same results; in this case not reacting on impulses. There's a difference between reacting on a impulse  and acting on an impulse, one is involuntary, the other voluntary respectively.  That's not a good memory, that's a great memory.
ol' grimey
ol' grimey May 22 '16

Quote from Catharsis420
Quote from ol' grimey
Quote from Catharsis420
Quote from ol' grimey
Quote from Catharsis420 Interesting topic as I'm currently reading "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M.E. Thomas which is a fascinating memoir about a successful Trial Lawyer and Sunday School Teacher who has managed to go through her life undetected as a sociopath. It's an enthralling book that's nothing like what you would expect. I'd definitely recommend it. 


As far as I go, I see myself as a dark minded empath. I do have a conscience and feel remorse, and I value the friends and family I have that actually give a shit about me. However, I do see the world as a dark and malevolent place and feel that I have to act accordingly for self-preservation and to protect those I care about, but in the end I still try to be a good person. 

What happened to your other profile, and how did you mange to say verbatim as it is now as you did under the other profile name
Quote from ol' grimey
Quote from Catharsis420 Interesting topic as I'm currently reading "Confessions of a Sociopath" by M.E. Thomas which is a fascinating memoir about a successful Trial Lawyer and Sunday School Teacher who has managed to go through her life undetected as a sociopath. It's an enthralling book that's nothing like what you would expect. I'd definitely recommend it. 


As far as I go, I see myself as a dark minded empath. I do have a conscience and feel remorse, and I value the friends and family I have that actually give a shit about me. However, I do see the world as a dark and malevolent place and feel that I have to act accordingly for self-preservation and to protect those I care about, but in the end I still try to be a good person. 

What happened to your other profile, and how did you mange to say verbatim as it is now as you did under the other profile name "Ravenrevelation420?

"Ravenrevelation420?
I deleted the other profile on impulse when I got pissed at something trivial someone said when I was drunk and then when I sobered up I made another profile and apologized for my behavior and now I'd REALLY like to move on if you don't mind. And to answer your other question; good memory I guess? I dunno. 
Yes, I do mind...no I'm just messing with you. lol  to really move on is not to repeat the same behaviors/actions that produce the same results; in this case not reacting on impulses. There's a difference between reacting on a impulse  and acting on an impulse, one is involuntary, the other voluntary respectively.  That's not a good memory, that's a great memory.
I'm sorry, you just happened to be the fifth person to ask me that and I start getting annoyed after awhile to keep having to explain myself over the same old BS after I already apologized. And no shit, you shouldn't react "impulsively", you think I was born yesterday? But we're human and shit happens. NOW PLEASE LET ME MOVE ON! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Your welcome. 


I saw M.E. on dr. philgood, and heard interviews of her, but I hadn't read her book...yet. How is it?

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