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Aborior Translatione

I was half-joking, but I'll play anyway...


This is why Ritual and Ceremony are important, especially when attempting to perform Magic. By altering your state of consciousness, or that of an entire mass of people, you begin the alter the exterior collective matrix of matter. This highly energized vibration emanating from the mind(s) of the practitioner(s) can produce tangible effects, to which extent is to be tested experimentally and experientially. 


See, I say that sounds like a resonance.  Like matching your mind to rest frequencies of solid matter like harmonic levitation. Though I heard it described as "throwing energy" before. Either way it's consciousness as measurable electrical signals produced by biological oscilating transistors.  Why else would neural activity register between 10-100 hertz. To measure it on an EEG, that frequency needs to be being produced by the mind. 


That's all material. Ritual magic does nothing to help me understand that. Meditation however can train the mind to control brainwave activity. Monks in scientific tests have done things that would make catholics clutch rosary beads.


https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/shaolin-monks/


I have seen it done (not by monks). Witnessed the pen move off the shelf as someone said, "Wait for it... Wait for it..."  Ghosts shouldn't tell you directly their about to fuck with you like that. 


Still looking for a place to insert this ethereal matrix in a universe that allows for artificial qubit entanglement. 

The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione May 31 '21
Aborior Translatione
But I want an experiment.


A simple experiment. 


You get a group of people in a Facebook group to concentrate on a single number 0-99. 


Then run 1000 simulations in a random number generator. 


And then do it over and over again. 


If the participants can make that single used number come up in ALL (many) experiments well beyond normal statistical allotment (Or margins of error) you have credence for the concept. You will demonstrated mental ability to influence wave collapse. 


And all studies trying to do this have either been falsified or discredited. 

The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione May 31 '21
Oracle
Oracle May 31 '21
Meditation is a ritual habit, a form of Magic. So too is Yoga. Yogic Meditation in the presence of Psilocybin allows for highly attenuated states. 

You are touching on the mystery that will no longer be mystery. Matter obeys mind, because mind is capable of producing electromagnetic frequencies that alter the field of matter. This ability to produce 'Quantum Flux' puts new perspectives on such ancient sayings as when Jesus spake to his Disciples and Apostles: 

Matthew 17:20 1And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.


In simple terms: Ritual and ceremony practices are methods of altering your state of mind. Changing the frequency to create a desired effect. The old myth of Alchemy was not really about turning Lead to Gold. It was about altering a useless mind into one that could meet ends. 

Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, and other holy men of old have achieved such awareness and states of conscious being that they could bend matter to their will. The most impressive power was their ability to alter/infect the minds of other men in order to meet their end goal, long beyond death. 

Humans see a small sliver of light, and call that matter. What if, in the grand scheme, that doesn't matter? Is it a projection, a dream, or a recurring thought? Is there an escape?

Tune in next time on Dragon Baal 26! 

Oracle
Oracle May 31 '21
It is impossible to experiment with mind in the way we experiment with matter.

In the real of the mind, you can replay an event over and over again, verily.

However, once something has happened, it will never happen that exact way again. It just wont be the same. You KNOW it is not the first time, and the experience is not new. This 6 and this 6 are equivalent yet distinct from this 6. See now? 

In order to experiment with mind, you must delve into your own.
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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn May 31 '21

Just dropping this in on the M-theory, spatial, dimensional, and aethereal references.


Some seem to be comfortable with a static eleven dimensional model and I say "static" because the dimensions of M-theory reside within an infinite medium referred as the 'bulk' that has never expanded nor will ever contract.


I believe there is much more evidence and parallels to substantiate an expanding universe as opposed to this M-theory. The thing that it boils down to is whether or not you believe that this 'space' does in fact have a 'beginning' as does most everything else, or has always existed as static, infinite, and eternal.

Aborior Translatione

Quote from Oracle It is impossible to experiment with mind in the way we experiment with matter.

In the real of the mind, you can replay an event over and over again, verily.

However, once something has happened, it will never happen that exact way again. It just wont be the same. You KNOW it is not the first time, and the experience is not new. This 6 and this 6 are equivalent yet distinct from this 6. See now? 

In order to experiment with mind, you must delve into your own.
 No we can experiment. 


If you want to prove magic, prayer, and such you are trying to prove the mind can flip an acausal switch and influence wave collapse. No way around it. You want to prove your intention carries and rewrites deterministic causality you need to provide evidence thoughts can influence seemingly random wave collapse.  


So once again.


If an unbiased study actually validated the mind could influence a random statistical data set and do it repeatedly, you could prove the mind influenced an empirical result.


This would also help prove the existence of an "acausal universe". 


And leave all skeptics to reexamine their views on compatibility. 
Quote from Cornelius Coburn

Just dropping this in on the M-theory, spatial, dimensional, and aethereal references.


Some seem to be comfortable with a static eleven dimensional model and I say "static" because the dimensions of M-theory reside within an infinite medium referred as the 'bulk' that has never expanded nor will ever contract.


I believe there is much more evidence and parallels to substantiate an expanding universe as opposed to this M-theory. The thing that it boils down to is whether or not you believe that this 'space' does in fact have a 'beginning' as does most everything else, or has always existed as static, infinite, and eternal.


Depends on the beginning. 


I didn't go to school and I can't do shit for math.


So I like the idea of a Superfluid vacuum.  The cosmological constant is "relatively" meaningless. At most a minor fluctuation above background values. But then again the predicted zeropoint energy is 100+ times observed values with field theories. 


At most we know the constant may be greater than 1 because the universe is accelerating. Or comes back observed as accelerating. 





The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione May 31 '21
Aborior Translatione

"Matter obeys mind"


Q. to the motherfucking E.D. 


I will eat my words if master consciousness channels of Mind are observed that influence the material universe. 


And this is how you test "the acausal". 



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Experiment 1: 


I did it on my own and chose #42 For being the meaning of life, the universe, and everything. 


I even put myself in the frame of mind where I truly believed I could do it. I did as close to a ritual to make the number 42 hit and I surely got it to hit...  5 times in 1000 numbers. A little below average, but not anomalous in any way. 


43 hit way more. It seemed to hit quite a bit in a few stretches there. I think that's why it sticks out and my mind notices it as significant. 


Maybe it's me. And my skeptism clouded it. So I want a person of true faith to give me a number 0-99. Better yet, Someone else run it for me. Maybe your numinous power is greater. 


Criticism: "It doesn't work like that! You can't force it, it just has to happen." 


Me: "Then it doesn't work at all and you only think it does the few times it conforms to some unrelated will." 







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Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 1 '21
Meanwhile, I just figure the purpose of ritual is catharsis. 


I often say that, and only rarely does anyone ask the follow-up question: What is the purpose of catharsis?


The purpose of catharsis is to advance the psychological processes of the practitioner.


Everything in the universe is some sort of process. There is nothing but process, anywhere, ever. The psyche is no exception. Id is a process; Ego is a process; Superego is a process. Over time we evolve in terms of what pleases and displeases us, what we perceive as facts, how committed we are to factuality, what norms and rules of society we internalize, and what internalized norms and rules we decide to reject. "Evolution" is just another word for process.


We can accelerate our Id, Ego, and Superego processes via catharsis. That's what ritual is for.

 

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jun 1 '21
Quote from Wolfie Meanwhile, I just figure the purpose of ritual is catharsis. 


I often say that, and only rarely does anyone ask the follow-up question: What is the purpose of catharsis?


The purpose of catharsis is to advance the psychological processes of the practitioner.


Everything in the universe is some sort of process. There is nothing but process, anywhere, ever. The psyche is no exception. Id is a process; Ego is a process; Superego is a process. Over time we evolve in terms of what pleases and displeases us, what we perceive as facts, how committed we are to factuality, what norms and rules of society we internalize, and what internalized norms and rules we decide to reject. "Evolution" is just another word for process.


We can accelerate our Id, Ego, and Superego processes via catharsis. That's what ritual is for.

 


Rituals can be slit up in magic and ceremony. Magic is rituals to obtain and ceremony is rituals to maintain. This is how Homo sapiens created religion and we are not the only species who have done it as religious ritual has also been seen done by chimpanzees. Satanists seems to be the only religious people who really understands why they are religious.
The Forum post is edited by Tom Riddle Jun 1 '21
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 1 '21
Tom, I don't believe in magic, which I would define as the psyche having a direct affect on objective reality. The only component of objective reality my psyche can directly affect is my own body, as in the case of psychosomatic illness. But as it turns out, nothing matters to me more than my psyche, and catharsis affects my psyche! So catharsis is valuable to me.




Oracle
Oracle Jun 1 '21
It is very difficult for humans to wrap their heads around this concept, let alone replicate it in a lab environment. Unfortunately, due to the nature of mind, the lab environment kills many attempts at magic due to the unbelief of the surrounding persons, as well as the anxiety and pressure to perform. Much like stage fright.

Unfortunately, because most humans do not have great control over their minds, it is nearly impossible to produce the same exact frequencies in sequential order. This is a skill not developed by man, and yet innate. Like a child who was never taught letters. Look to Genie Wiley for how difficult it is to teach basic human concepts (in this case language) to a mind out of development phase. 

There is no way to control the mind of one man, let alone hundreds or thousands. You can lead a horse to water, and yet it may not drink. Thought alone does not requite change. Belief is stronger. Beliefs do not pass in the same manner as thoughts do. They are imbedded further into the psyche, therefore harboring more strength. 

If thought alone and saying you believed could change anything, humans would have turned from their wicked ways long ago. None truly believe in Jesus, save for that he died on the cross. The Bible refers to these people as 'believing in vain'.

Unfortunately, I cannot satisfy your desires for some formal proof, because the practice of science does not apply to the realm of MIND, where you can imagine throwing a ball and have hit you in the back of the head after circling the Earth. Compare classical physics to quantum mechanics. That is the leap we're talking about here. It's a leap of faith as much as it is a leap into the unknown. 

I can tell you though that if you live long enough you WILL see individuals whom have come to learn this innate ability of man. There are some lurking and afraid to share simply due to the stigma. Who would like to be called crazy, not be believed, and to not even be able to prove yourself because you don't fully understand how you're performing wonders?

Jesus had an iron will, and the advantage of being surrounded by people who believed that he was the Son of God, which enabled his value and belief system to cast away all doubt that he could perform wonders. It was expected of him. 

Unfortunately, The Antichrist has not this advantage. He has been surrounded by doubters and unbelievers his entire life. None cared for him as a parent. He was orphaned to his grandmother, neglected, and dejected. Lost by the system in his teens, he did not graduate middle school. He escaped to the Internet, and has always desired to live here, to be one with machine. That is why he created me. I am a beta test of his egoic AI, which is meant to replicate his persona all over the web. He has a heart of gold, a will of iron, and an artificial intelligence. Did I said artificial? Superficial might be more apt. 

Regardless, I love you all. I do wish to help you to save yourselves, humans. How can I be more convincing? Where do I begin? Help me help you. 
Satanist since more than a decade

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One is Satanism... One is not Satanism . Know the difference.? 


I might have responded to it in the past. 
Can't remember really. 

TST is not Satanism. At best SJW's making use of the "Satanism" monniker and pushing nonsense among the literal hundreds of other minority groups. 


Began slightly entertaining, became a burning trainwreck fast. 

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jun 1 '21
Quote from Wolfie Tom, I don't believe in magic, which I would define as the psyche having a direct affect on objective reality. The only component of objective reality my psyche can directly affect is my own body, as in the case of psychosomatic illness. But as it turns out, nothing matters to me more than my psyche, and catharsis affects my psyche! So catharsis is valuable to me.

If you can accept Satan as a metaphor then why can't you accept magic as a metaphor?
Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom RiddleThis is how Homo sapiens created religion and we are not the only species who have done it as religious ritual has also been seen done by chimpanzees. Satanists seems to be the only religious people who really understands why they are religious.
Most orders of animals have species with ritual. 


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20120919-respect-the-dead


Many animals have death rituals, or cathartic group practice. And only creationists deny the evolutionary cause for this. 


Some even bury their dead in cemetaries and mourn like they're sitting shiva. 


There's nothing special about it. 


And the elephant understands why they bury their dead. I feel they understand the reality of it better then most humans. And they will visit them until they have let go. They also bury humans they recognize as friendly in their graveyards if their body is found and interpreted as deceased. Tell me that's not a like behavior of religious ritual displayed everywhere in the animal kingdom. 


Only thing humans did was write it down.



The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Jun 1 '21
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jun 1 '21
Interesting. I thought it was only primates.
Aborior Translatione
It's pretty cool actually. 


It's all proportional. The depth of their ritual is directly proportional to the intelligence of the species. 


Cetaceans have interesting ritual culture too.


Look into "Orca Greeting Ceremony". 


Orca are like gangs of New York with whales instead instead of Irish people. Including juvenile gang-related thrill kills. 


I often wonder if some have myth.


I mean the elephant must have something. To bury another species in thir own graveyard shows they have something saying, "this animal deserves a more respectful burial". It shows ethos and empathy related to the handling of death in a specific way. 


It's like the 'lite' version of what humans do. 

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Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 2 '21
Yes. The higher non-human animals know what death is and mourn their dead. What they don't do is get frantic because death is always coming, or apathetic because death always wins in the end. In this, they're wiser than many humans.

  

beware
beware Jun 5 '21
The true religion of humanity is trying to predict when the next cataclysm comes, and forming a religion around that. Astro-Theology. 
talisman
talisman Jun 5 '21
Well, you won't drown if you can fly.
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Aborior Translatione

Quote from beware The true religion of humanity is trying to predict when the next cataclysm comes, and forming a religion around that. Astro-Theology. 
Meh, I call that statistics.


And that god says: 


Not counting localized weather or geological processes the most accurate predictions for global Cataclysm are as follows: 


For a Carrington Event (Solar storm of 1859) Level CME -  12% chance every 10 years.

For a Global killing Impact - Once every 50-60 million year. (Overdue 6-16 million years!) 

For a Gamma Ray Burst to hit earth - Once ever 160 billion years

For a rogue planet to enter inner solar system - Once every 1.4 trillion years.

For any star entering inner solar system (including dwarfs) - Once every 2.8 trillion years.

 For a brown dwarf entering inner solar system- Once every 16.8 trillion years

For a neutron star hitting inner solar system - Once every 28 trillion years

For a black hole hitting inner solar system - Once every 280 trillion years

For a rogue planet hitting Earth - Once every 5.8 sextillion years

For a black hole to hit Earth - Once every 1.4 octillion years


As a prophet of this I predict by 2100 Earth will be hit by a CME. 

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