The Satanic Temple are not Satanists | Forum

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jun 5 '21
ELE initiated via asteroid impact approx. 65 million years ago. The architect merely wanted to erase and start over - back to the drawing board.
Geraldo Respuesta NUTZ
Geraldo Respuesta Jun 9 '21
The Satanic Temple are not Satanists simply because they are followers and activists for a political cause. 


Satanism is about your will being conjured through dark nexus vortecs and cosmic waypoint to navigates the objective with ritual. As a real occultist and practicer of magic I can conjure my will through intellectual decompression as explained in the Satanic Bible.  They dont do that. They want to protest instead of working on their will being manifested through Magical ritual. 

beware
beware Jun 28 '21

Quote from Aborior Translatione
Quote from beware The true religion of humanity is trying to predict when the next cataclysm comes, and forming a religion around that. Astro-Theology. 
Meh, I call that statistics.


And that god says: 


Not counting localized weather or geological processes the most accurate predictions for global Cataclysm are as follows: 


For a Carrington Event (Solar storm of 1859) Level CME -  12% chance every 10 years.

For a Global killing Impact - Once every 50-60 million year. (Overdue 6-16 million years!) 

For a Gamma Ray Burst to hit earth - Once ever 160 billion years

For a rogue planet to enter inner solar system - Once every 1.4 trillion years.

For any star entering inner solar system (including dwarfs) - Once every 2.8 trillion years.

 For a brown dwarf entering inner solar system- Once every 16.8 trillion years

For a neutron star hitting inner solar system - Once every 28 trillion years

For a black hole hitting inner solar system - Once every 280 trillion years

For a rogue planet hitting Earth - Once every 5.8 sextillion years

For a black hole to hit Earth - Once every 1.4 octillion years


As a prophet of this I predict by 2100 Earth will be hit by a CME. 


It's a little different when what you're reading from goes so far as to specify the date, and the events do occur. 
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jun 28 '21

* Operator Error Tritone* 


We're sorry, but incompatibilist limitations have rendered any attempt to absolutely predict the future like absolutely predicting the location of a particle. Please check your causal connection and try again.
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beware
beware Jun 28 '21
July 8/18

August 11 - not excited

December 7

[INSERT DARK WINTER]

April - shocker

May - flowers? bloom!

June - [REDACTED]
talisman
talisman Jun 28 '21
Then it looks absurd.
Infernal Acumen Member
Infernal Acumen Sep 20 '21
A lot of people talk about etymology and rolling with the changes; the evolution of language. Language changes, word gain modified meanings. Gay, faggot, cock, and other such words and many more are words which have altered in their mean ing from when they were first being used. However, we all honor the etymology of the words and understand it's original use. We know the past meaning of the words but embrace how language has changed. Why are so many resistant to change when Satanism itself is about adapting and overcoming situations through the betterment of the self. With this being the case, TST are Satanists as they are recognized as Satanists. However, they are an RHP version of Satanism as opposed to LHP. The core ideas are still the same as LaVeyan Satanism. Satan is used as an archetype to represent liberation. TST fights for personal liberation in the political arena. TST is closer to La Ryan Satanism than Traditional Satanism, Thelema, or even Christianity. Fighting against what is already recognized is at the point of one being justifiably labeled a rebel without cause. 
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 20 '21
Quote from Infernal Acumen A lot of people talk about etymology and rolling with the changes; the evolution of language. Language changes, word gain modified meanings. Gay, faggot, cock, and other such words and many more are words which have altered in their mean ing from when they were first being used. However, we all honor the etymology of the words and understand it's original use. We know the past meaning of the words but embrace how language has changed. Why are so many resistant to change when Satanism itself is about adapting and overcoming situations through the betterment of the self. With this being the case, TST are Satanists as they are recognized as Satanists. However, they are an RHP version of Satanism as opposed to LHP. The core ideas are still the same as LaVeyan Satanism. Satan is used as an archetype to represent liberation. TST fights for personal liberation in the political arena. TST is closer to La Ryan Satanism than Traditional Satanism, Thelema, or even Christianity. Fighting against what is already recognized is at the point of one being justifiably labeled a rebel without cause. 

TST are not Satanists because they don't worship Satan. Satan to them is just at tool that serves their political cause. In Satanism there is no cause above Satan and from a LaVeyan perspective the worship of Satan is a group's worship of each Satanist's highest potential, meaning there is no cause above the Satanist. Therefore the worship of Satan is what connects LaVeyan and Theistic/Spiritual Satanists together despite their differences. Satanists have nothing that connects them with TST. 
Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle
TST are not Satanists because they don't worship Satan. Satan to them is just at tool that serves their political cause. In Satanism there is no cause above Satan and from a LaVeyan perspective the worship of Satan is a group's worship of each Satanist's highest potential, meaning there is no cause above the Satanist. Therefore the worship of Satan is what connects LaVeyan and Theistic/Spiritual Satanists together despite their differences. Satanists have nothing that connects them with TST. 
LaVey was an atheist, rejecting the existence of all gods.[32] LaVey and his Church do not espouse a belief in Satan as an entity who literally exists, and LaVey did not encourage the worship of Satan as a deity. Instead, the use of Satan as a central figure is intentionally symbolic. LaVey sought to cement his belief system within the secularist world-view that derived from natural science, thus providing him with an atheistic basis with which to criticize Christianity and other supernaturalist beliefs


You should go be like Aquino and jerk off in beach cottage until you convince yourself you're talking to Isis. Wait, that's a woman, Anubis is still open. You can do a dark ritual and talk to Anubis. 


In any case, it seems you are at odds with ALL common knowledge about the CoS and Anton LaVey. It seems it's always been using a scientific base (and secular ideals) to criticize something in sociopolitical arena, which includes normative religion. 


The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Sep 21 '21
Aborior Translatione
Ah, the transitive law of self-worship. 


That's kinda funny.  


So you worship yourself, and because you convinced yourself you act like Satan would, you technically worship Satan via the transitive law. 


Cool.  I really don't care. I just like making argue against yourself. 


Are you sure you just dont want the persona of a devil attached to your own glofication for the self esteem the identity gives you?

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 21 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione 

In any case, it seems you are at odds with ALL common knowledge about the CoS and Anton LaVey. It seems it's always been using a scientific base (and secular ideals) to criticize something in sociopolitical arena, which includes normative religion. 


The worship of Satan is a psychodrama performed in the INTELLECTUAL DECOMPRESSION CHAMBER. It's ironic that you use CoS in attempt to make an argument as they are those who states that Satanism is a religion which is a fact you despise.
Aborior Translatione
Yes, and psychodrama is for little pansy ass bitches that can't face reality when thats the center point of their "religion". So sinister you do the devils work chanting in a closet alone, but you feel powerful so it's totally legit or something. 


You're a broken Abba record stuck on Dancing Queen. 


And I hated Mama Mia. 


Please, tell me more about this "intellectual decompression chamber". 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 21 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Yes, and psychodrama is for little pansy ass bitches that can't face reality when thats the center point of their "religion". So sinister you do the devils work chanting in a closet alone, but you feel powerful so it's totally legit or something. 


You're a broken Abba record stuck on Dancing Queen. 


And I hated Mama Mia. 


Please, tell me more about this "intellectual decompression chamber". 


You are not a Satanist... What are you doing on a satanic forum?
The Forum post is edited by Tom Riddle Sep 21 '21
Aborior Translatione

I'll give you the real answer.

I am here to spread an antitheistic meme.

I developed a vehement hatred of faith. I was once made to hold a compulsory faithful position (for a reward) without validation and that pretty much set it off. Since that fire was lit I have a goal (for personal reasons) to target the ideas of a specific type of person. Until that point I just laughed and said, "the world needs spiritual sheep". 


But then I had a moment like the speech in Network when told that also applied to me. 


Now I am here to be the adversary of faithful and spiritual ideas. I do this through the exaltation of science and reason. I attempt to strip the perceived divine ability and put the human species on par with a dolphin, big cat, and other higher mammal (that happened to invent written language).  To use world examples to show how civilized ideas codified in Sumaria spread like a flu virus on camelback until it became so ubiquitous and invasive it ingrained itself into instinctual memory. Hundreds of thousands of years of thinking stars are spirits of ancestors is what I am up against. I am here to use logic to turn people against their gods. To get as many as possible to cast away reverence for the ideas that give them confidence or a perceived sense of power without any real world action. 


And I do this because I derive gratification from being combative towards nomian attainment devices. Even veiled ones. Especially the veiled ones! 

I am here to take emotions like "love" and "hate" out of the fixture of duality and show the selfishness of the former and virtue of the latter.

In short: I am here to destroy the idealistic Kingdom of God the same way it wad created. Through ideas that spread like a flu virus on camelback.  And magical ritual really isn't compatible with that, even with the "psychodrama" copout. 


Or in the music video language of this site, THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE MESSAGE OF THIS SONG, with the caption, "Spirit moves through nothing" and the added caption, "and can be explained completely by evolutionary science".


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21
Do you really believe you can destroy faith and spiritual ideas? 


When people go into satanic, occult or religious ritual they creates a connection to the subconsciousness and then the collective unconsciousness where the archetypes dwell. This is why that even if it's really the case that devils and demons don't exists they would still be experienced as they were real beings because the archetypes sends their avatars...


The worship of Satan as a psychodrama provides 2 things. 1. The satanic ego becoming whole as humans today have a very huge need for a symbolic life and 2 maintaining the connection between Satanists. Religion has never been about faith but about spiritual/emotional expression and most of all the preservation of the culture or subculture (Satanists are more a subculture). 


The reason why I can't take modern rationalists and skeptics seriously is that while they perform criticism on religion they never perform criticism of stupid delusional ideas such as Woke. feminism, body positivism and other radical left wing ideas. I was on an atheistic forum for a couple of years I noticed that they were completely bias. They mocked theism and religion but glorified feminism...

The Forum post is edited by Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21
Aborior Translatione
Worth a try, right?  That's just why I am here.  That's not going anywhere.  It's part of my attainment. 


What would you call a person who derives their attainment from opposing compulsory slavery and other manmade ideals? That does a hell of a lot more for me than an abstract ritual ever could, so where does that fit?


There has got to be a likeness in world myth that parallels my storyline at least a little. Which "ist" is right for me? I can think of one if I cut off my hair and went and sat under a tree, but not this one. I just can't line up my motivation to a noted character. 


What mythological persona would you most ascribe to my motivation and ultimate goal? 


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Worth a try, right? 

Is it really? Have you ever had success with it? My experience is that theism and spirituality is an emotional experience and you cannot argue against emotions with logic.


Quote from Aborior Translatione

What mythological persona would you most ascribe to my motivation and ultimate goal? 


Why do you need a mythological persona? Satan like other mythological gods are to gather humans. If Satanists were not social creatures like other humans there would be no need for the symbol of Satan...
The Forum post is edited by Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21
Aborior Translatione
You know, I have sort of lost interest in this. 


One more for today. 


My experience is that theism and spirituality is an emotional experience and you cannot argue against emotions with logic.


Sure you can, you get as far as arguing a VAT on Conservative radio, but it's still worth it. 


People are wired how they are wired. The goal isn't actually to change them (and you're not) it's to show contempt for their deeply held views with a blasphemous counter by your actions and words. 


* If your adversary is the deeply superstitious wiring of society; then actions in defiance of that human tendency is the glorification of yourself. 


The "spirituality" comes through saying and acting in opposition to whatever part of status quo you reject. 


It is also my experience that when your personal gratification is in becomming the adversary it almost always nullifies deriving your gratification from indirect actions. You can't just chant it all away through bullshit, you gotta ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING THAT CONTESTS IT.  And always do it on your own. A movement of one. 


Yeah you could think, "why do I let it bother me? I should be beyond this. I really shouldn't let myself get baited into confrontation over this!" And them some other social hair gets up your ass and you go back to saying and doing things to reject the status quo.


Can you think of ANY position you hold simply because it makes you feel better to hold that opinion up to society and provoke their righteous indignation?  There's at least one.

The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Sep 22 '21
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21

Quote from Aborior Translationeit's to show contempt for their deeply held views with a blasphemous counter by your actions and words. 

And what do you get out of that? No one give 2 shit about an anonymous profile doing blasphemous acts on the internet. You can argue that you use it as a form of psychodrama to release your frustration with believers but then you are no different from people like me utilizing ritual...

The Forum post is edited by Tom Riddle Sep 22 '21
Aborior Translatione
You walked into It.


Question with a question,


What do you get out of spreading MGTOW ideals? 


Can you do it as a psychodrama? As a ritual?  Your adversarial hatred of woke culture has already said "MGTOW will become the majority!" Could you get as much gratification saying it in your "intellectual event horizon" with no one but yourself to hear it? 


Or do you need to spread it into the public consciousness to provoke a reaction to get the most out of it? 

The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Sep 22 '21
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