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I like the 4 major characters – Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial (fire, air, water and earth).  

I have the closest connection with Satan and have tried to elaborate on my perception of the Prince of Darkness elsewhere in another thread. “He” really is the fire of Becoming.

I have a very strong connection to Leviathan. In fact, I instantly felt that connection when I considered that signifier. Leviathan for me is the lurker in the dark or the monster in the depths. Leviathan is such an appropriate signifier for the unconscious. I sort of get the same sense of the unconscious, when I reflect on Cthulhu or any of the creatures which Lovecraft forced up and out into the open. Water is an appropriate element.   

I don’t have a strong connection to Belial. I’m not sure why that is? The meaning just doesn’t jump out right now. I sort of associate Belial with the expanse and heat and desolation of the deserts or burning wastelands. There is nothing more to Belial than that I’m afraid.

I have a strong connection with Lucifer, but don’t necessarily identify as a Luciferian. It is the promethean aspect of Lucifer which appeals to me. I associate Lucifer with the utterly conscious and intentional in sharp distinction to and against the mindlessness of conformity or automatic dogmatic behavior or even purely instinctive behavior. Lucifer is the enlightened individual.

I think one can make an argument that all 4 of the major characters have a place in the composition of the individual who deeply identifies with them, and is hence a Satanist, or some other type of LHP influenced person.

Geraldo, one of your other personalities may enjoy the symbolism to be found in this scientific article: Self-Immolative Polymers

To be honest, I don't like the air/fire/water/earth template for understanding Lucifer, Satan, Leviathan, and Belial, respectively. It forces our thoughts into unnecessary boxes. However, that being said, your analysis of Leviathan as the unconscious and Lucifer as consciousness is useful. We could then make Satan and Belial into reality and unreality (deception), respectively, bearing in mind that reality is the all in all, encompassing objective and subjective, conscious and unconscious, fact and falsehood, for even subjectivity and falsehood have their places in reality.

But I don't actually think in those terms. I'm not someone for whom TSB is so fundamental that it structures my philosophy. TSB was an appetizer, a preamble, a trailer for the movie.

For me, Satan is the more general, Lucifer the more specific. I use Satan as a symbol for the entire Left Hand Path in all its permutations. He rules it all. But he doesn't rule it alone. He is the Lord of Hell, and under him are many legions.

The foregoing paragraph illuminates my rationale for giving Satan the most general of assertions: "Fulfill your desires."

Lucifer, meanwhile, I give my incantation from the OP. Lucifer is the personification of the adept. That's why I also give him the Luciferian Rede, for which my muse and mentor was Baphomets. I attach it here, because it has a place in this thread.

Lucifer: The stage of learning.

Leviathan: The stage of enrollment and entering into the nearest society. 

Belial: The stage of rebelling against the status quo, rules,  laws,  ordinances, and so forth of that society or family. 

Satan: The stage of opposition against anything contrary to  the self and the creation of a self kingdom. 

I mean, even the bible fucks up and calls The Jeebis Morning Star. 

My hypothesis being he was a Cult of Personality that became an urban legend that morphed over  300 years as his story was written by 80 different fan boys. By Constantine they had enough of a cannon to put all the shit written together and say fuck all with the advancements of the Hellenistic period. 

Today it would probably be closer to, "And that's why I be like FUCK Rome!" 

It seems to be a path of least resistance to escaping discomfort.

Instead of confronting or pushing the reality of the situation one will insert an idea that gives them false hope, and do so deliberately for the benefit of clinging to a more pleasing belief. 

I'm all for that as a mundane coping mechanism but I will never relate to why this simple insertion of a benefit/detriment comparison can make duality more real. Ultimately ascribing positivity to one side and negativity to another. Why light becomes more valuable in darkness is beyond me. Seems just more shit that happens in aggregate with respect to position and previous decisions. 

In analogy it's putting the overheated billet into a safety of a water quench without considering all those stress fractures that will occur. 

Pulling insights together, I produced Lucifer's Charge, which I recite in my room in the dark of night, two small red candles burning, each in a miniature cast iron pot. The purpose of this is entirely psychological and entirely worth doing, because in psychology we live and move and have our being.

What is "it"? It's it, and it's a lot like a euphemism for fucking. 

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Can you feel it, see it, hear it today? 

If you can't then it doesn't matter anyway.