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Dantalion Oct 28 '21

When I was a kid I would have dreams of a man with a black fedora that would come to my window and whisper shit to me. I told my parents this and they thought I was possessed with a demon. They were hardcore Mormon at the time so they talked to the Bishopric (I grew up Mormon) and some elders well versed in the Melchesidic Priesthood came over to our house to give me a blessing. They circled around me, dripped anointing oil on my head, collectively put their hands on my head and gave me a blessing. Of course it didn’t work because I ended up in the hospital shortly thereafter with pneumonia and I found out I had asthma which I have to use an inhaler for to this day. I’ve had numerous asthma attacks in my life, and to boot, I acted off my entire teenage years, don’t give a fuck about the Mormon Church and turned into a Satanist.

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Cornelius Coburn Oct 28 '21

The description with the "fedora" hat and all fits with the shadow person phenomena. Usually associated with transitory sleep states, e.g. paralysis, et cetera, and certain altered states. It's a fairly occasional and widespread phenomenon.

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donot Oct 29 '21

There were certain occasions of exorcisms that proved that demons really exist. Just some people give some abstract explanations or just quickly want to get away from it because they are afraid. This is understandable.

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Dark Enlightenment Oct 29 '21

There were certain occasions of exorcisms that proved that demons really exist.

Such as??? Could you provide examples of these occasions I am afraid of?

I have tons of abstract explanations.

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Infernal Acumen Oct 30 '21

If an individual is an LHP practitioner, would you find it acceptable for that individual to work with angels in the performance of exorcist duties? I would think such ideas would be disrespectful to their religious beliefs and thus such a betrayal would mark them as a spiritual target. Any thoughts on this idea?

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Infernal Acumen Oct 30 '21

First contact is the moment any family member or close personal friend of the individual experiencing possession begins communication with the exorcist. Once the exorcist has established any form of communication the being will be aware of their presence. The host body of infestation is simply their physical establishment within our physical realm. Their powers and intelligence stretches beyond such physical limitations of their present host.

In the event information is passed from the exorcist to anyone connected with the host, the exorcist must assume that being is aware of the conversation. The possessing spirit has spiritual tentacles which reach deeper than their host. Be mindful of what information you permit to such an entity by not revealing methods, tools, and other such information which may allow the spirit to put up a defensive wall during exorcism practices to remove them from their host.

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Dark Enlightenment Oct 31 '21

Do you acknowledge Jung, the unconscious, mental disorder, and self created thoughtforms, or are you just as so myopic you call "enlightened" reinforcing Christian theology without variance from that narrow little window?

It's fucking arrogant in my opinion to sit there and speak of demons from the absolute affirmative position or external existence. Why do you have to exalt that "truth fish" Christian arrogance?

There are so many simpler, and far more logical explations for anything you can throw out there concerning "demonic possession".

IMO, only a total drunk fruitcake would say, "There are entities that latch on to select people symbiotically and can manifest either dreams or nightmares for the host. But mostly nightmares because people can't handle these entities! Derp."

Yeah so? Schizos get chased around by military officers calling them cowards. And no one ever calls the smoking man in the dark corner of John Nash's mind a demon. Well, not since drilling into the head went out of style. Shits been parroted since before Crowley's pulled goetic demons out of his candy ass.

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Cornelius Coburn Oct 31 '21

IF : it goes beyond anything that could occur naturally

Then Undefined(not likely)

ELSE : Bullshit(it's just people acting)

Or something to the effect.

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Singende Säge Oct 31 '21

I call possession as archetypal intrusion to the conscious mind. In that sense, surely possession is real. I've witnessed the phenomena in other people. I for sure had enough of it. Boils down to unconscious content. Speaking of myself, I treat them as real things. The question I keep asking is 'What information this entity has that I do not yet possess'.

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Cornelius Coburn Oct 31 '21

It could definitely be a broader subject, but in the context here it is mostly demonic possession as defined by the Catholic church; its' priests and their exorcisms.

But in an alternate context one might inquire whether sleep paralysis could be a form of 'entity attack'.

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Infernal Acumen Nov 2 '21

Singende Sage:

That is a great point. This concept would be a rule of thumb based upon the defensive mindset of the risk analysis afforded to weigh the exploitability of the Exorcist by such "forces". The exorcist must always be a little overly cautious in such volatile situations. This permits the existence of cushion in the exorcism practice to further a successful encounter in the performance of duties.

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Cornelius Coburn Nov 2 '21

I like that the Sage uses terms like "archetypal", and entities. Which transcends the scope of similar terms in the original post and elsewhere. It would be a very slippery slope indeed were one to subject such a restricted narrative as demonic possession onto a universal framework of unknown entities.

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donot Nov 3 '21

Yeah right. They are very well known. You "pretend" to not know what is already very well known. You can call it "archetypal", I call it "pretentious". In other words, so many bullshit is the beginning of meta-physics.

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Cornelius Coburn Nov 3 '21

Well to speculate on attacks of the consciousness. I would prefer less restrictive terms. It's not something I have experienced often, but may have experienced nonetheless, and it's not something I would usually bring up, but may comment on something already in place.

As far as myself. I can describe what is happening, but an explanation is of course much more speculative.

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