Jason King on the ONA and Mythology in General | Forum

Anna
Anna Oct 24 '21
Oh look Ms Chloe! JK has made a video about the ONA again!


But seriously, this is for everyone interested in the topic not only concerning the Dark Gods and the so-called acausal stuff but also generally religion, mythology and magic. Here is the video:




The main point is that the metaphysical is or should merely be a tool for personal development.

There are some here who treat the occult stuff, magic, demons and ghosts quite literally. On the other side, there are those who say it's all bullshit that deserves to be dismissed. What about some middle ground i.e., not throwing the baby out with the bathwater? What kind of personal benefits, if any, can the use of the mythology bring?

The Forum post is edited by Anna Oct 24 '21
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 24 '21
This is a bit tricky. Because on the one hand, I do believe in the existence of 'entities', but it is quite restricted; nowhere near the magnitude of what others might believe, and nothing to do with mythology.


And on the other hand I also believe in a hidden universal order that preserves and maintains this star system, and the above may appear to be in conflict with this, along with the likes of alien phenomena, unless these would be restricted and/or coordinated in such a way as to avoid conflict.


Also, I don't associate gods with the acausal, that would come after which is actually per definition of the word as well, or, if you said "gods of the acausal" to mean first emergence of, but the acausal itself is the absolute beginning of everything.

Phil_Lopian
Phil_Lopian Oct 24 '21

Quote from Anna Oh look Ms Chloe! JK has made a video about the ONA again!


But seriously, this is for everyone interested in the topic not only concerning the Dark Gods and the so-called acausal stuff but also generally religion, mythology and magic. Here is the video:




The main point is that the metaphysical is or should merely be a tool for personal development.

There are some here who treat the occult stuff, magic, demons and ghosts quite literally. On the other side, there are those who say it's all bullshit that deserves to be dismissed. What about some middle ground i.e., not throwing the baby out with the bathwater? What kind of personal benefits, if any, can the use of the mythology bring?



Thank you for the video Anna. I liked JK's new o9a video. I agree with him. As a simple answer to a simple question, I wouldn't have added or subtracted anything from what JK said. But I would have moved the spider into a jar or something, to keep it as a pet and feed it. And that painting is too bright to be hanging on a white wall like that, it just looks weird. It would look cooler hanging on the red brick wall. 


I'm off to Mahaffy Ranch for their pumpkin patch! I hear it's a tradition around these parts to go there during Halloween time. 

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Anna
Anna Oct 25 '21
Nah. Putting a spider into a jar, that's sort of cruel. To deprive it of freedom. No, I don't like the idea.
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
Maybe a small terrarium. With the frigid temps lately, putting them outside isn't very nice either as they would likely freeze on short order. Recently there was some baby Black Widows that built webs around the front of the surround system, and I just left them there, but didn't really notice they were BW until later on. It was obvious they were consuming a lot of fleas(but not enough), by the piles of dead carcasses at the bottoms of the webs. Yeah, I know it's gross, but it is what it is. I told my friend if you don't wanna have to deal with fleas then don't go next door around them two dogs, and them bring them back then. Anyway, one day when she was vacuuming and I wasn't around, she vacuumed them up, asshole.


About the circular enclosure(or jar). One time when I was at the pet store I bought a small guppy just for the hell of it, to put in my friends beta bowl here, and you could tell it went stir crazy. All it did was swim in circles, constantly. I felt bad for it, and bought my first 20 gal. aquarium and put it in there, with a Cichlid - I was new to that sort of thing, and then one day I heard someone say "He got it.". The Cichlid ate the guppy. We thought the guppy was too fast, and he was, for a while.

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
And the other day I saw a ladybug in the kitchen at the top of a curtain, keeping warm right under a fluorescent light. My first thought was to toss it outside, but yeah, those autumn temps. So I just left it there.
Anna
Anna Oct 25 '21
If I saw a big black spider at home, I would kill it. Fortunately, they are very rare here. They aren't poisonous but they can bite so it's not very wise to let them stay. Most of Polish spiders are quite small, brownish and harmless. It's thought they bring good luck. I just let them be. The same is with ladybugs. 
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
They were just babies. I actually even get a little creeped out by the bigger uglier ones. Far as I know, there are BWs and Brown Recluses around here which are poisonous, and those small yellow gas spiders, whatever the fuck they are called.


I never looked closely at BWs markings which were confirmed by an unreliable source, but I assumed so, since I have seen them under the porch which is very close to where I am right now. Never been bitten by a spider that I recall.


When I was in Buxton we had those HUGE black and yellow garden spiders and that is the shit right there that nightmares are made of, scary.

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
As a kid, feeding spiders around the house was a passtime activity. Mostly wolf spiders, that's the bulk of what we get around here.
Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Oct 25 '21
I try not to kill any animal. If there's a bug in the house, I capture it and put it out. If it dies due to temp or environmental variables, at least it did not meet its demise directly by my hand - it was mother nature.


Also, I do not partake in animal product consumption and I haven't bought real leather in two years now.

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Anna
Anna Oct 25 '21
When I was a child, spiders creeped me out. I was freaking out when I saw one and then I had nightmares. They were mostly big and black. But there were also more of them. Now, they are a rare sight and, also, they seem to be of a different species. Not sure why. Perhaps, it's because as a kid I lived on the ground floor. Now I have a flat at the attic. It's more dry here.
Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Oct 25 '21
This little bitch was crawling around in my car while I was driving and almost caused me to wreck. Not due to my own anxiety but because of my eight year old son screaming, flopping around and hyperventilating in the backseat because the little fucker was on his leg. Had to pull over and capture it in a cup and let it in the grass.


crab spider

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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
I mentioned sneakers a while back in the shout box, and how hard it was to find a pair locally, and a friend ends up getting me some leather Avias from Walmart, and I had similar sentiments B.
Phil_Lopian
Phil_Lopian Oct 25 '21
My Palo Godfather has a "pet" Black Widow which lives in his nganga shed. In the cultures/religions of Santeria and Palo, spider web is collected to do brujeria with. 
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Oct 25 '21
I seem to have an intuition, or, an affinity for some of your references(for a time now), unfamiliar as they may appear to be. Like a feeling, when you know something is right.
Berardo Rodriguez Member
Berardo Rodriguez Oct 26 '21
Halloween is approaching and the spiders are creeping every where,  I think it is good to get  a balanced view to everything,  the O9A has a big spider web around the world to get some flies and make them its followers,  I used to have a German friend who was a active member of the O9A, we used to meet in a cemetery  and talk about  the points of view of his Order and I  always directed him to get the balance , he used to explain me taking the example of the spider  and its web and bla,bla,bla,bla, he used to go to the extreme,  he was afraid of cemeteries,  that's why we used to meet on Fridays at midnight , we did it for a full summer and he always repeated and repeated the example of the spider,  until I called him "Spider-Man " and I used to call his name "Peter Parker ", but I kept my view of ' not being 'fanatic ' in any belief; extremism,  fanatism, are the ones that kill and get the people exhausted in any group .
Phil_Lopian
Phil_Lopian Oct 26 '21
It is forbidden in o9a to make o9a look remotely appealing to the Mundanes, because we do not want Mundanes in it. In public, we must always strive to make o9a look as awful as possible. 


Spiders aren't universally disguising enough for o9a. I think warts are universally gross. Being o9a will give you warts on your face, and other such highly visible areas. 


We must also take the worst from every human culture, and mix it with o9a: o9a people eat cats like the Vietnamese, eat dogs like the Chinese, make weapons out of excrement like the Eskimos, we have a scat fetish [sexual fetish for shit/poo] like the Germans, we marry 9 year olds like the Muslims, we are obese like the average American, we are MGTOW like people from Denmark, we put nicotine patches up our butts like the Scandinavians, we have big crooked noses like the Jews, we smell bad like the Hindus, we are Christian/Catholics who like Satanism like Polish people, we make and do Jenkem like Africans, and so on. I may have forgotten a few things. 

Anna
Anna Oct 27 '21

Quote from Phil_Lopian It is forbidden in o9a to make o9a look remotely appealing to the Mundanes, because we do not want Mundanes in it.

Really? I thought the more the merrier. At least, it looks like that.

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