White Male Dominance in Satanism | Forum

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ShadowLover Apr 7 '16
Hi Grimey. Your question - I wouldn't know. I am neither a Satanist nor a Wiccan so don't really feel qualified to answer that question. I'm a rogue... A stray bitch that is happy to sit around any camp-fire that's light beckons and that's tenders allow. And what I like about the Satanist's fire is that they don't try to cage you or guilt you into staying. I can come and go as I please.



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ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16
" I can come and go as I please."... whilst in the shadow and under the direction of men....when it's time to submit to maleness the coming and going is guided by the male.

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Females by nature are irrationally emotive, soft, fragile, a bit feeble when compared to men and the are also by nature submissive and receptive, in which case a female set in any position of power would be like setting the Earth over the Sun. The earth is nothing without the light and power of the Sun, females are the same when it come males. The woman's place is to receive and if this is the woman's place, then man's place is to give.


During intercourse is the man receiving the woman or is it the other way round?

 

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16
Woman as Earth absorbs the power of man, whilst as the moon she reflects that same power and without the Sun, both Earth and moon are just lifeless rocks floating in space.
ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Quote from satanic_kitty

"Any woman that isn't over emotional is out of this world." 

I guess I'm out of this world. 


"the emotions run wild to hysteria, causing them to act in hysterical ways" 

I guess Jack Torrance was a female then? Or are you going to say his emotions were controlled? I guess you think that he's an "aberration". But if Jack Torrance had been female, would he have been the rule and would you have said that all females are like "her"? I can tell you many more examples for weak males who can't keep their emotions in check, if you wish. And before you say Jack Torrance was mentally ill, well yeah, he was an alcoholic in the book and as a person rather unsuccessful, plus there were some family issues... But women don't randomly burst either, there are always many factors that make a human react a certain way. Simply because of that (because humans are so different and you don't always know all factors that made them behave a certain way), it is ridiculous to make generalizing statements about a whole gender. It makes you look very shallow. 


The female nature doesn't appeal to you at all? 

Well, there is no "female nature" that all females have to the same extent. Again, your generalizations are ridiculous. If someone is being "irrationally emotive, soft, fragile, a bit feeble" then it's YOU, because you let a handful of women influence your view of women so strongly that you get such an incredibly negative view of all women that exist - because of their vagina. It's laughable. If a woman had done that or something similar (e.g. being scared of all spiders because one spider bit her once), you would say she's being over-emotional, am I right? Double standards. 
Simply the fact that people like me or ShadowLover DON'T submit to your "maleness" should be enough to disprove your view that all females submit to males/the male gender. I'm an individual person and couldn't care less about your dick. But I guess I'm an "aberration".

I would have said that all females have the potential to over react in that same hysterical way, with some other outburst of raw unchecked emotion.

Aileen Wournos- her unchecked emotions/scorn drove her insane in the end, Jodi Arias, Betty Broderick.... all females who reacted out of emotional hysteria, of which all females have latent within them and due to their yang less yin, the females torrent erupts in a tidal wave of emotional blast.

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ShadowLover Apr 8 '16

Quote from ol' grimey

Females by nature are irrationally emotive, soft, fragile, a bit feeble when compared to men and the are also by nature submissive and receptive, in which case a female set in any position of power would be like setting the Earth over the Sun. The earth is nothing without the light and power of the Sun, females are the same when it come males. The woman's place is to receive and if this is the woman's place, then man's place is to give.


During intercourse is the man receiving the woman or is it the other way round?

 

I agree with most of this... But with a better understanding. 


Females embody emotion. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it irrational. Emotion is something given to us by nature so we don't abandon our young during tough times. Nature is not irrational. There is no right and wrong - it just is.  


Women have soft natures. Absolutely! We are gentle and not really into warring. Fragile and feeble? Frightened men might try to convince us of that so that we believe we need them, but frightened men are the last thing we need. We need brave men! I'm pretty sure organised religions like Christianity and Islam started that rumour - tribal gals certainly weren't fragile and feeble.


Submissive and receptive... 100% I have a very submissive nature and was a sexual submissive for about 10yrs. I understand submission in the bdsm sense but also in the primal sense. Submissive is not weak. Submissive means allowing someone to to be the figurehead of the relationship. Figurehead is not ol' el Supremo, but the brave one who takes the risks and does the work so that we may nest in peace and without worry. I have such respect for men who take this role seriously.


Submission is also an offering. Sure, you could bash someone into submission and mentally manipulate them into temporarily accepting the imaginary yoke around their neck (been there too), but these are the acts of men who aren't confident in their worth. True submission is when a woman willingly lays herself before you and starts secreting honey. 


You see, men are hard-wired for quantity. In nature, in their truest form, they will create as many offspring as they can to keep the human race alive and flourishing. This was especially important during trying times of war and famine when human numbers diminished - to save your tribe from extinction. 


Women on the other hand are in charge of quality. They subconsciously submit to men  whose offspring they believe will enhance the strength of the tribe. That's why we are such a pain in the arse to hook up with. We are hard-wired to put every potential mate through a quality assurance test. There is an instinctual method to a woman's madness when choosing a mate. Women are responsible for keeping the human species strong and of a good quality. 


Don't hate the messenger - if a woman is not choosing you it is on you. You are in control of what you put out.


That is nature's design. It is not the design that Christians and society preaches where everybody deserves and gets a mate. And that you will be together forever no matter what... Nature is not a socialist and doesn't care about your feelings. She only cares about producing a high number of good quality offspring, and both men and women have their part in this. 


To cage women is to potentially harm the quality of the human race. They were designed to be in charge of quality control, not men.



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ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16


Quote from satanic_kitty And you're just going to ignore all male serial kilers? Jack the Ripper, Ed Gein, Albert Fish, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Howard Holmes? They could control their emotions, really? 


Let alone the fact that it's utterly stupid to think that all women are crazy because of a handful of obviously mentally ill women. 


It's always circumstances, mental diseases etc. that make people commit crimes, not their gender. For example, Aileen Wuornos: Her mother got married when she was 14, do you think that's normal and healthy? And her dad was already a criminal who spent most of his life in prison and then committed suicide. When she was 4, her mom left her and her brother. Aileen was raped by members of her own family when she was a kid. Her brother impregnated her when she was 14. She had to go to a home for unmarried mothers. Her grandma who took care of her died, and Aileen became a prostitute. She lived on the street. 


But surely all of those things are not the reason why she went insane and killed people. Surely it's all because she had a vagina. Surely a boy would have had no problems with what happened to her and wouldn't have become mentally ill. 

I used those women as examples of female hysteria, because let's face it, the root of their actions was female hysteria. Men such as Albert Fish, did what they did either out of pleasure and/or practical gain, they didn't do what they did out of hysteria. But taking it back to male dominance in Satanism, males dominate period and females are there to serve the males dominating Satanism and as for those males being White, it's merely incidental to a predominately white majority who are the most likely to seek positions in Satanic or any other occult organizations... more than any one from any other group. Occult knowledge is for men and what women may know of such things, it's what the man have taught her, just enough for her to get by in her dainty little world of fragility.


Somebody said something about tribal women, only you are not a tribal woman your an alleged civilized woman, or as a civilized as a female could get. The majority of us humans left the grass skirts and mud huts behind some time ago. I mean if you are going to take social Darwinism to it's logical conclusion, then male's and female's relation to each other is that of the dominate male predominating over the female's volatility.

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

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They were designed to be in charge of quality control, not men.



The whole point I'm making is that women are not designed to be in charge of anything, men are the designers, builders and architects. Men are in the Vatican, men are/were warrior-prophets, men were/are the hunters... and women are the gatherers, the hearth keepers...
ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Quote from satanic_kitty Your view of women is so warped. And since you are clearly not open for rational arguments and since you don't matter in my life, I will stop participating in this discussion now, because I don't want to waste my time on trying to change your worldview. I'd rather spend that time on discussions with intelligent people. 


P.S.: This isn't meant to be a passive-aggressive response. It might offend you and you might try to insult me or accuse me of being something that I am not (e.g. that I am being emotional and feeling attacked by your posts, or that I'm leaving because I can't think of any arguments and don't want to admit that you're right), but I'm just going to let you know in advance that your insults don't matter to me. 

see, this is a perfect example proving what I've been saying. By a female's fruit, you shall know them.
ShadowLover Member
ShadowLover Apr 8 '16
I'm not sure why you mentioned the Vatican. That place makes me ill just thinking about it. All those pent up blue balls... They've had semen rotting in them for 50yrs. Ewwwww... ;


It's probably fucking fossilised. 


Oooh, maybe there is potential yet. If it fossilises into an amber like stone I could string them like pearls!


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ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Quote from ShadowLover I'm not sure why you mentioned the Vatican. That place makes me ill just thinking about it. All those pent up blue balls... They've had semen rotting in them for 50yrs. Ewwwww... ;


It's probably fucking fossilised. 


Oooh, maybe there is potential yet. If it fossilises into an amber like stone I could string them like pearls!


I mentioned the Vatican because it is a place that is filled with a fraternal order that are men. You don't see a nun, or a laywoman looking to be a bishop, a cardinal, or even pope do you, then why these western women looking to be like men?
ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Quote from Joshua Noctis Grimey: It's Wicca, not Wiccanism.

   I'm surprised the way this thread has turned out. Expect the unexpected, I guess.
   After reading, I have to agree with Kitty. Your "logic" is flawed. I understand the concept of female hysteria, but to claim that all women act under such a notion is folly. It is the same as proclaiming that because there are men who rape, all men are potential rapists. (Now that is indeed a fallacy, however, I cannot recall the name of it.)
    As to why men dominate Satanism? Just one of those things in life. Like how Wicca has become this New Age feminine fad that empowers "goddess girls."  
   

White knight, white knight ^^


I said wiccanism, also known as Goddessism with big gal in the sky eclipsing her male counter part, suitable for females, male homosexuals and cucks.


How is my logic flawed?  We are not talking certain men who do a certain thing, besides men raping women is not the same as women inherently and intrinsically being overrun and overtaken by emotion as females. To compare the two is folly....and it's flawed, truly, not because I use the word to call it that.

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 8 '16

Quote from satanic_kitty Please don't provoke me, ol' grimey. I might cry and become hysterical and kill someone. Right? lol
Become hysterical yes, but the other things are up to you, they're whatever you are so inclined to do after becoming hysterical.
Charles
Charles Apr 8 '16
Quote from satanic_kitty For example, Aileen Wuornos: Her mother got married when she was 14, do you think that's normal and healthy? And her dad was already a criminal who spent most of his life in prison and then committed suicide. When she was 4, her mom left her and her brother. Aileen was raped by members of her own family when she was a kid. Her brother impregnated her when she was 14. She had to go to a home for unmarried mothers. Her grandma who took care of her died, and Aileen became a prostitute. She lived on the street. 


But surely all of those things are not the reason why she went insane and killed people. Surely it's all because she had a vagina. Surely a boy would have had no problems with what happened to her and wouldn't have become mentally ill. 

Hey satanic_kitty, you seem to know a bit more about serial killers than the garden-variety morbid curiosity most other people hold. Your information on Aileen Wuornos for example is something one can't glean from a single documentary. Perhaps you've viewed her last interview prior to execution? The execution of an obviously insane woman, albeit somehow the system was manipulated to appease public opinion, she was indeed insane at the time of her execution.

I'm merely curious regarding your knowledge of serial killers, feel free to contact me privately, as the subject does not pertain to the topic of this discussion.

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ShadowLover Apr 8 '16
Grimey. I honestly see the Vatican as a sick sick place full of sick sick individuals. I bet the walls stink too. Doesn't semen start to secrete through the skin if it damned up? It's rotten stench would be in the furnishings. The Vatican is disgusting and full of misery. 


Not a great example to support your theory of male absolute rule. 

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ShadowLover Apr 8 '16
@Joshua. Grimey thinks you are rescuing a damsel in distress from his delusional absolute domination of her. He can't conceive that Kitty doesn't need rescuing and that you two might share a level friendship.


Basically I think talking to Grimey is like talking to a monkey. His arguments make little sense and are often irrelevant. No matter what you say he just holds up the same banana and says, "Look! Banana!"


Every now and then he holds up two bananas and you think, "Well that was kind of clever..."


But then it is just back to the one. "Look! Banana!"

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16


Quote from ShadowLover @Joshua. Grimey thinks you are rescuing a damsel in distress from his delusional absolute domination of her. He can't conceive that Kitty doesn't need rescuing and that you two might share a level friendship.


Basically I think talking to Grimey is like talking to a monkey. His arguments make little sense and are often irrelevant. No matter what you say he just holds up the same banana and says, "Look! Banana!"


Every now and then he holds up two bananas and you think, "Well that was kind of clever..."


But then it is just back to the one. "Look! Banana!"

They probably do have a level friendship, females love emasculated males. Anyway, I make a claim and instead of refuting it you come back with the "oh yeah, well you're a big doo doo head" defense that's used when an irrefutable claim is made. what would be relevant, the trivial content that's been prevalent from day one?   You speak like you're trying to change my view on females, only to bolster my claim by getting over emotional resorting to the doo doo head defense. Yeah, that'll really change the way I see females. 
ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16
First, women whined, cried and got all hysterical about wanting to vote, they got it. Second they whined , cried and got all hysterical about wanting to work, they got it and now they whine, cry and get extremely hysterical about wanting to be heads of organizations, in this case Satanic ones, now the buck has to stop some where. Am I to believe that whenever a woman whines like a spoilt toddler, men just bow over and give her whatever she's crying for?  Modern western women are themselves the biggest aberration. The exception of course are the women/females in the travelers community (Irish... "gypsies"). These women don't look to supplant men, instead they know their place, role and function as females and they stay in it fulfilling those roles and functions and they are happy and content with it, because they understand it's what they do as females. What exactly is your problem that you want everything men have, just because they have it?  That makes you look all infantile and stuff.
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ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16

Quote from ShadowLover Grimey. I honestly see the Vatican as a sick sick place full of sick sick individuals. I bet the walls stink too. Doesn't semen start to secrete through the skin if it damned up? It's rotten stench would be in the furnishings. The Vatican is disgusting and full of misery. 


Not a great example to support your theory of male absolute rule. 

Of course a woman would say that. You people just don't like it where there is a huge gathering of males and no woman there to take over with crying, whining and incessant nagging to be included in the affairs of men.
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ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16
Here's a really good example of the ultimate fail of females in charge, Angela Merkal. She's Chancellor of Germany and she's running it into the ground with letting raping marauders of asylum seekers run amok, because her emotions  are taking precedence in her decision making, then when you add her white guilt to the picture you make for one hell of a poorly made decision. Can you imagine a woman holding the reigns of Satanism? 
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