White Male Dominance in Satanism | Forum

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16

Oh.


Not happened, as in once, but no longer, but happening, as in it's damn near an epidemic. Not only, but her being a woman played a significant role in that in her emotional nature all she saw/see was/is a distressed group seeking asylum and so instead of looking at the facts of the type of people these asylum seekers are and being informed of their behavior back where they are from...you know a full background check, including a cultural check, weighing if there is cultural compatibility, if they would bring the worse of their culture/behaviors with them... she let's them in on the emotional view of their plight, liabilities be damned.


The presidents of those countries made poor decisions on who they are letting in for reasons that are a part of the political game, another no woman's land.

The Forum post is edited by ol' grimey Apr 9 '16
ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16

When it comes to Satanism a woman's place is any traditional/conventional servile positions like altars, high priestesses, secretaries... I shudder to think what Modern Satanism would look like if Anton was an Antonia, or something like that. Then it would be known as Lilithism, with the Right hand path referring to patriarchal machismo.


Thank Hell Satanism was codified by a man. 

ShadowLover Member
ShadowLover Apr 9 '16

Grimey, am I incorrect to assume that you have read "Demons of the Flesh?" If you haven't I recommend it. Excellent book. You would love it! I did.


Your posts read like you have read it and in that book you became obsessed with one or two chapters in particular. 


You seem to have been experiencing a sense of powerless for many years when you were younger, and after reading this book you decided that it is women who are to blame for your failings. We have become your boogey-women and/or your scapegoats - your devil! 


It is unbalanced to live your life around one or two chapters of a book. People do that with the Bible all the time and look how fucked up they are. 


Christians blame the devil for their failings. You blame women! 


But Satanism is about taking responsibility for yourself and not hiding behind a chapter in a book.

ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 9 '16

I've heard of it and am already familiar enough with it's topic. Funny you should even bring that title up, seeing that some time earlier that very title came to mind.


"You seem to have been experiencing a sense of powerless for many years when you were younger, and after reading this book you decided that it is women who are to blame for your failings. We have become your boogey-women and/or your scapegoats - your devil!"  "You blame women!"


Some where you hit a miscommunication bump. No where did I even imply that I blame women for anything, let alone alleged personal failings. How do you get that from my examples of why males dominate Satanism, my stating the factual reason for it i.e. men dominate everything? It's their nature to dominate, its not a woman's place to even consider competing with a man, in a male dominate place, she's not so much the man's footstool as she is his ottoman.


"But Satanism is about taking responsibility for yourself"


This is true, but why then is not enough female representation within Satanism something that ought to be changed, just because women want it like that?



ShadowLover Member
ShadowLover Apr 9 '16
@Grimey. The powerlessness I speak of in regards to you is not something you said but more a feeling that permeates your words and tenor not only in this thread but across the forum in general. 


You don't just attempt to belittle women but men also. You imply that everyone is somehow inferior to you. Pfft! You make an undeserved claim to grandeur and insist that anyone that can't see it is some kind of loser. Do you think you are the first one to come to this forum and behave like that? Sadly not.


We can't see your grandeur because it is not there. If you were a leader we would be following you, but we are not. Remember, nature isn't a socialist. You don't just get to be the leader because you want to - nature doesn't care about what you want. In nature you have to earn it. 


When people crave power so desperately as you appear to, physics indicates that in fact there is a power void. 


And relax! Women aren't trying to take over Satanism - it's not even on our radar so sleep easy tonight. Your fear of women is making you fucking paranoid! I'm sure the alpha males at the top of the Satanic stack don't lay awake at night worrying that a woman is going to try to overthrow them. ...For God's sake!


Grimey, I don't think you are without potential but you are not at the top yet. Anybody who has to cut others down to appear to be at the top is only deluding themselves. There are no short-cuts. Again it falls on you. You can grow to become a leader if you choose to work at it... But nature doesn't care. The natural order falls where it will no matter how much you jump up and down and swing your machete and try to rearrange us. 


As for Merkel... Well she is just a regressive useful idiot. But you should be happy Grimey, because if Islam takes over the world you will finally live in a completely male dominated society. Cheers!




ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 10 '16

"The powerlessness I speak of in regards to you is not something you said but more a feeling that permeates your words and tenor not only in this thread but across the forum in general."


Not powerlessness, but contempt.


"You don't just attempt to belittle women but men also."


I simply am inclined to remind people of their place, if they don't match up.


"You imply that everyone is somehow inferior to you."


If I judge any one not to be on my level, then yes, I consider those people inferior to me.



"You make an undeserved claim to grandeur"



Being grand in itself is deserving enough.


 "and insist that anyone that can't see it is some kind of loser."


This is true.

'We can't see your grandeur because it is not there."


Grandeur is a subjective experience, so I don't identify myself based on what some one tells me is or is not there. I experience my grandeur, so therefore I know it's there, it's not my problem nor concern if any one else sees it or not.


"When people crave power so desperately as you appear to, physics indicates that in fact there is a power void."


Not necessarily, it's not always a power void, in the sense you are meaning. It could mean void in the sense of containing/absorbing greedily all the power that can be gathered and out for more. Besides, I don't crave anything, let alone desperately so.  


"And relax! Women aren't trying to take over Satanism - it's not even on our radar so sleep easy tonight. Your fear of women is making you fucking paranoid! I'm sure the alpha males at the top of the Satanic stack don't lay awake at night worrying that a woman is going to try to overthrow them. ...For God's sake!"


To be honest, I'm actually indifferent to women, along with being indifferent to humans over all and could really care less about any of them.


"Anybody who has to cut others down to appear to be at the top is only deluding themselves. "


Or, anybody who cuts others down could be doing it because they enjoy cutting others down.


"you will finally live in a completely male dominated society. Cheers!"


That's not something I would necessarily give cheers to, lest the male dominated society are extensions of myself, meaning that they are mind of my mind, soul of my soul; in my image and likeness, as well as to my satisfaction.


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Asmedious
Asmedious Apr 10 '16

The reason there is a “White male dominance in Satanism,” is because (in my opinion) there are more people in the white male population who are willing to embrace objective views, as well as “Prime thinking skills.” (If you are unaware of Prime thinking skills, you might find it interesting to look into it), over “magical,” or superstitious thinking.


However, even among white males, this is relatively a small percentage of the over all white male population, yet even that small percentage is larger then those of other groups who have similar views.


Once the fluff and theatrics are removed from Satanism, the foundation of the philosophy is based on Objective, reality based thought, where cognitive reasoning is giving more credence to then emotional reaction, which a small percentage of white males are more adept at, then other cultures or females.

As stated above, that small percentage of white males, still over shadow the even smaller percentage in other groups who embrace similar views, which is why there is a “White male dominance in Satanism.”


Although I do not have an statistics on hand, I believe that it is highly likely that for the same reason, there are also more Atheists who are white male, then Atheists from other groups of people.












ol' grimey
ol' grimey Apr 11 '16
Yes, that is more or less what I said, when I mentioned that white male (pre)dominance in Satanism is due to the white population size and the interests/leanings towards things like Satanism is more demographically larger in white males then n any other group, such as you mentioned. With that let me just add to what you specifically said about the objective reasoning foundation of Satanism, by saying that one who operates from such a state would, once they feel the tug of a particular emotion/feeling like anger would express themselves in an angered fashion, but unlike the one who gets carried off into fits of blind rage, the Satanist keeps his senses. Facts take precedence over feelings is what I get from what you're saying. 
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Asmedious
Asmedious Apr 11 '16
Yes, we seem to pretty much agree on this.



Bloodthirstyringmaster
I could agree. I rarely meet an African Americans that are not even religious.


Zach Black Owner
Zach Black Jun 2 '16
It is a cultural thing. Females are typically attracted to the ' goddess ' Wican stuff. Black people are usually from a religious back ground. Just like Latinos. And lets face it... white folk are the most 'evil' race.
Mikitz
Mikitz Jun 2 '16
I have also put a notice that females tend to prefer to Wicca as their own version of Satanism and I do not really find any problem with them whatsoever (except the fact that they're theists, at least for the most part). 


As most of you might have realized, there are certain traits to people who are Satanists, mainly found in male populace. If there has ever been a survey conducted upon this matter, please do not hesitate to inform me about it.

neyamiko
neyamiko Mar 3 '17
I might be late to this party. I didn't read past the fist page (Guilty)
My thoughts. I am a woman and the thought that satanism was a male dominated thing never occurred to me. I don't really have a good reason because I don't really understand other women any how.

I came to satanism because I have a very open mind and a lot of curiosity. I don't really think of myself in terms of gender. I like what I like and gender only has so much of an effect on that. I do like pretty girly things but I like a lot of masculine things too. Other than my personal taste I don't really put judgement on things.

I hope that helps.
neyamiko
neyamiko Mar 3 '17

Quote from ol' grimey First, women whined, cried and got all hysterical about wanting to vote, they got it. Second they whined , cried and got all hysterical about wanting to work, they got it and now they whine, cry and get extremely hysterical about wanting to be heads of organizations, in this case Satanic ones, now the buck has to stop some where. Am I to believe that whenever a woman whines like a spoilt toddler, men just bow over and give her whatever she's crying for?  Modern western women are themselves the biggest aberration. The exception of course are the women/females in the travelers community (Irish... "gypsies"). These women don't look to supplant men, instead they know their place, role and function as females and they stay in it fulfilling those roles and functions and they are happy and content with it, because they understand it's what they do as females. What exactly is your problem that you want everything men have, just because they have it?  That makes you look all infantile and stuff.

yep it's infantile to want every thing that men have.

neyamiko
neyamiko Mar 3 '17

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They were designed to be in charge of quality control, not men.



The whole point I'm making is that women are not designed to be in charge of anything, men are the designers, builders and architects. Men are in the Vatican, men are/were warrior-prophets, men were/are the hunters... and women are the gatherers, the hearth keepers...

A leader is a leader regardless of gender. You are too hung up on social constructs. If some one is meant to lead they will find them self in a leadership position. As for myself I am new and uneducated and am in need of guidance not in a position to lead. But if I wanted to lead I'm very persuasive there is nothing you could do to stop me.

I think women are hung up on social constructs. They absolutely can already be heads of organization they just don't realize it because they believe a lie. Doing speaks louder than protesting. If you want respect then earn it! Have confidence and do not let others stop you from doing anything!

Is satanism not about personal gain and enlightenment? Is it not about achieving your goals even if the odds are against you? Satanism directs us to be the best we can, it doesn't choose men or women it just chooses those who qualify. People who can not get pass this can not grow.

I'm speaking to all not just the quoted person.
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