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Calvin
Calvin Apr 18
How many of you consider yourself to be Evil? I'd especially like to know if you are an atheist or LeVayen Satanists, as from what I understand LeVayens are atheists?
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AK Apr 18
Chaotic Neutral with a bit of a mean-streak is how I'd describe my temperament. 


I'm not wholly convinced that things or even people can be classified as good or evil except with respect to (and within the limited scope of) a given purpose or function i.e. Hammers are good for nailing in nails; evil when smashing in skulls I'd prefer remain intact.

I'm not sure what a LeVayen Satanist is. I am agnostic in the sense that the matter of whether God exists or not simply cannot be known. 

Dark Enlightenment
I consider myself to be a scatter plot of behavior.


If you grouped my actions into a dichotic spectrum of contribution to the world around me vs personal ethic applied you would find the median closer to the abstract evil...


But not by much.  You can increase your odds of fucked up shit happening like so many face cards at a -5 count. 


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EdMenonymous Member
EdMenonymous Apr 19

EdMe IS CHAOS! FUK OFF! I WISH I COULD GET LAID!

EdMe grows ever IMPATIENT with this stupid fukkin world full of self important impotent Monkeys on their fukkin cell phuks and their judgy prying TV eyes if they bother to look up while they are driving.

EdMe cant believe how long it takes for Monkeys to fukkn wake up and start havin a conversation TOGETHER about ANYTHING?

But how about EVERYTHING?!

That is just fukkn WRONG in this HELL ON OUR EARTH!

93 to ALL WHO ARE NOT DISTRACTED! AWAKE! and AWAKENING!


and thus the EVIL in this world and of course is seeded in all of us is

BEING DISTRACTED BY FUKKIN BULLSHIT!

SLEEP WALKING THROUGH LIFE!

BEING TOO RICH AND PRETTY TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION

AND OBVIOUSLY! USING A CELL PHONE WHILE DRIVING A 2 TO 5 TON DEATH MOBILE!

meheh

Thus I am GOLDEN.. and EVIL IS FOR DA MONKEYS..

JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS WRONG especially to XTIANS

DOESNT MEAN IT IS...


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Anna
Anna Apr 19
And why are we yelling?


Calm down, fruit loop.

EdMenonymous Member
EdMenonymous Apr 19

ok MERGREGH!

But now EdMe wants to know..

What does Anna consider to be EVIL?

I will bet that in the end, it is me as red froot loop and you as a blue one..

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EdMenonymous Member
EdMenonymous Apr 19

ok Ed  will start..

what about the opposite of EVIL!

A world where EVERYONE CARES ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE FIRST.

just LIKE YO MAMAS!

and Ed means PEEPS EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE WORLD!

NOT JUST WHITE PEOPLE?

ALSO FUK PEOPLE.. a sensible logical way to go about living on this PLANET that we live on NOW.. would BE TO CARE ABOUT HER FIRST FIRST AS IF SHE ARE OUR GOD!

BECAUSE SHE IS OUR CREATOR AND SHE IS!

OUR PLANET EARTH IS NOT AN UNCONCIOUS BEING TO JUST BE USED AND THROWN AWAY..


AS ABOVE SO BELOW..

The way we treat her AND ALL HER CREATION  is ....?EVIL?

The Forum post is edited by EdMenonymous Apr 19
Albert
Albert Apr 19

Quote from EdMenonymous

I WISH I COULD GET LAID!



Try wearing some makeup, breast augmentation, butt implants, and lower you're standards: ugly Hindu taxi drivers. Arabs will have sex with goats, so I don't see why they won't have sex with you. Good luck!

Dark Enlightenment
Do you think her internet posting translates into the unlit bedroom?  Like speaking the normal disjointed gibberish while intermittently yelling arbitrary words in third person? 
MistressMage666 Member
My understanding is: evil is malicious and cruel. I don't often find myself in that state of mind unless spurred by a thirst for vengeance.. 

LaVeyan Satanist's being atheists is probably open to interpretation as we're all here creating our own path and our own belief structures, as the self guides the way. Doesn't appear so clear cut to me, yet the infernal names of theistic history are within the pages of LaVey's most popular text.. Existence laced with the supernatural would be much more amusing imo than otherwise (preferably). 

And @EdMe: it's probably not that you can't get laid, anyone desperate can find other desperate people to fuck, but that's too boring and usually disappointing. You're not getting the chance to fuck someone who can push all your crazy buttons and keep up. Tis a struggle for we ravenous creatures, insatiable to the max. Oi }:) (the struggle is fuckin real!) 

LuciferCrow
LuciferCrow Apr 19
Calvin-  I do not consider myself to be "evil" as defined.  I have made some very bad decisions in my past that some have considered "evil choices" and have been accused of being the said adjective of "evil." however as of late, I am not an "evil" individual, quite the opposite.  I am a loving fianc√©, a decent employee and employer, a loving father and my actions speak louder than my words.  I am quick to correct my mistakes, and when I'm going to do something "naughty" I am mindfully aware of how far the "damages" may go before I take said actions.  As a Satanist, we all define things differently, we all perceive the basic word "Satanist" differently.  Not one Satanist is alike. I have met genuinely "evil" people that are far from even human that have made the choice to be this way. (not Satanists)  


So to answer your question, no, I do not consider myself "evil" at all, nor do the people that matter the most in my life. Hailz.  Good topic. 

LuciferCrow
LuciferCrow Apr 19

Quote from 3rd Daughter of Hare First of all, I'm not an atheist, nor even a theist, and I'm certainly not a LaVeyan.


Usually when someone mentions "evil" around here, peepz are quick in asking for a definition. And all to often, the concept of poneros can escalate or branch-off into other long-winded debates or intellectual masturbation about: (i) ethical subjectivism vs. ethical objectivism (ii) Natural Law (iii) I'm my own god therefore evil is whatever the fuck I want it to be (or not to be) (iv) blah fucking blah. All that's been done to death and I don't want to go down that lane.


If by evil, you may mean: the desire or premeditated act of causing harm/destruction to another human (or lifeform) for no good reason other than for the sheer fuckity fucks fun of it... then yes.


I have a schadenfreude, sadistic nature. I get this adrenaline rush and go into a frenzy, which causes me to really grit my teeth, when I'm physically harming someone or merely thinking about it.


It tends to be towards people who have a physical feature that is abnormal or strange.


I've expressed this many times throughout my life and to give one case when I was a kid:


When I was about 7-ish years old, my mother had this friend who had a son who was a couple of years older than me with learning difficulties, who was often brought around to our house to play with me and stuff. He was hyperactive and would jump about in my bedroom and play with my toys without asking. And he would always look at me with a stupid grin on his face, which infuriated me.


I was aware he meant no harm and he couldn't help the way he was, but I couldn't stop myself from hurting him every time he came over, when we were alone.


It wasn't just because he was happy and playful that made me want to hurt him; he also had this big-ass, abnormally shaped head that looked like a peanut -- which sent me over the edge!


I would stick pencils up his nose, into his ears and I would always end up sitting on his head, not allowing him to move -- even when he cried for mercy. I even intensified the pressure by putting a leg of my bed on the side of his head and sitting on it. I was always looking for new ways to squeeze his head because it was shaped like a peanut and funny-looking.


I enjoyed hurting him and making him cry. It stopped him from grinning at me like an innocent retard and jumping around my room, too.


The sad thing was, he thought I was his girlfriend and still kept on wanting to come over, until his mom stopped him when I set fire to his hair.


Also, quite recently when I was travelling home from work on a train. A short, fat man with a piggy face sat next to me. He minded his own business and read his newspaper. However, I just couldn't stop fucking looking at his piggy face out the corner of my eye, but trying to be inconspicuous at the same time.


As well as having one of those concaved piggy snouts, he had a round face; receding hair; sweaty pink skin; stubby limbs, and a pot belly. He was definitely from Irish descent, lol.


*Look, I haven't got anything against those from Irish descent, he just had that particular phenotype that certain people from Irish descent have. I'm well aware there are different types of Irish looks, and some quite sexy, but in his case he looked like a cop from the NYPD.*


I was obsessed with his piggy nose in particular. I wanted to rip it off!


I got that adrenaline rush again and my teeth gritted like I had tetanus. I was going wild inside.


I started fantasizing about getting into a conversation and seducing him somehow, then bringing him back to my home -- where I have an attic with a strong oak beam, 8 feet off the floor. Then coercing him somehow into playing some "kinky game" by letting me tie his hands around that beam while he's standing on a chair with his feet about 2 and a half feet above the floor. I then tie several short lengths of fishing line -- which are attached to several large fishing hooks -- around the beam and put the hooks up and through his piggy snout. I then untie his hands and tell him to hold on tight and I kick away the chair.


O what a joy it would be to watch the little fat piggy desperately holding onto the beam to save his nose as his arms tire, his grip loosens, he slacks a few inches and his piggy snout starts to stretch to gravity.


Such great excitement. Such great ecstasy I would no doubt feel.


"You can do it! You can do it, little piggy wiggy wiggy! Just hold on in there!" I shout.


"Just hold on for one more minute and I'll put the chair back, I promise." I joke.


But poor lil porky pig is fat with not much upper-body strength and drops a few more inches which stretches his snout even more, then... he squeals! He fucking SQUEALS!!! 


His piggy snout starts to tear. He then passes out from the pain and exhaustion... ripping his nose right the fuck off.


FUCK YEAH!


Of course I said nothing to him and left the train at my stop. It was just a fantasy. I'm a big girl now and live by a code that keeps me in check. But those evil desires have not gone away.


I'm not a psychopath or anything like that. I can experience empathy and compassion for some folks. It's just that I have an evil streak in me, which comes out every now and then... which I can control.

This is fascinating, but still I don't necessarily consider this evil, by my standards.   Actually intelligent in many facets.  You taught the first subject lessons of primitive discipline or "calm the fuck down and these are my rules and boundaries."  You asserted your Alpha dominance, appropriately as well. 


You are a born dominant individual slightly sadistic in nature.  You get a rush out of borderline fantasy situations of harming others that are repugnant to you and play them out in your mind, sometimes via script over the internet maybe even in real life. No shame in that. Very exciting.  At least your not just a mindless bully, careful thought goes into your process, almost art. I'm impressed. 

Troll Member
Troll Jun 13
There are two primary conventions for the term: 

1) Doing things, living life, in such away that judgemental conservative Christians or Muslims disapprove. This type of 'evil' is common, and i'm sure i qualify. I foment Satanism, purvey demonology and the techniques of magic and divination, and teach that Jesus is a fiction and promote my Gospel of Satan as a far better scripture than their Bibles.


2) Preying on the innocent, maliciously doing harm to others in an ordinary and often illegal sense. This type of evil is what i oppose, think most of the rest of us do too, and think we can make a happy world continuing to do so, restraining and destroying those who are sociopaths and predators.

Dark Enlightenment

"2) Preying on the innocent, maliciously doing harm to others in an ordinary and often illegal sense. This type of evil is what i oppose, think most of the rest of us do too, and think we can make a happy world continuing to do so, restraining and destroying those who are sociopaths and predators."

But how to define this without subjective moral lensing?  Politicians are sociopaths and soldiers are predators by job description. Yet they maintain civility within our society.

That's semantic though.

The slippery slope of that moral lensing cannot be cleared.

I dont think the sociopaths and predators you speak of need help removing themselves from society.

You can only offset your balance so long. 

Fun Thing I Heard On AM Radio Once: The CIA's "remote viewing" program has what they consider a "silly superstition" that says everything demands a subjective balance.  The example I heard used was for every person they show malevolence to they balance it with benevolence to another.

The line of thinking that even morals of Christian "good" and "evil" are based on something closer to respect and individual integrity. And a balance that arises from what you do in this regard. Like an advaita buddhist mafia.

The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jun 13
Troll Member
Troll Jun 16
I like the way conventional society defines maliciously doing harm to others, at least the society of my acquaintance in northern California. Infringement on another's person and property is fairly straightforward and observable. I don't trust the report of the CIA or moralizing Christians, however.
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