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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Anna Dunno if it speaks to the "Satanic core" but it's definitely not laudable. 

I put the content aside.  If he was smarter it would be more apparent.  You can't focus on the retarded points being vomited in defence. 


It's like Special Needs Machiavellian...


I don't think he wants to belong as much as want to be considered an authority on the matter. He wants to be the one others look up to as a sage of insight.  Like it was when all the main posters were as stupid as him.


It's his will to power, his stupidity scripted will to power being impeded.  Which is ultimately behind the refusal to leave and insistence on posting from the wise sage-like position.  


We are the adversaries that block his will to that power. 


It's completely triggered. Pretty much anything you say will be contested just for being the person responsible for trying to get in his way.




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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
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Quote from Anna Dunno if it speaks to the "Satanic core" but it's definitely not laudable. 

I put the content aside.  If he was smarter it would be more apparent.  You can't focus on the retarded points being vomited in defence. 


It's like Special Needs Machiavellian...


I don't he wants to belong as much as want to be considered an authority on the matter. He wants to be the one others look up to as a sage.  Like it was when all the posters were as stupid as him.


It's his will to power, his stupidity scripted will to power being blocked. Which is ultimate behind the refusal to leave and insistence on posting from the wise sage-like position. 


He are the adversaries that blocks his will to power. 


It's completely triggered. Pretty much anything you say will contested just for being the person responsible for blocking that will to power.


Do you really believe in the words you speak?
Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Anna Dunno if it speaks to the "Satanic core" but it's definitely not laudable. 

I put the content aside.  If he was smarter it would be more apparent.  You can't focus on the retarded points being vomited in defence. 


It's like Special Needs Machiavellian...


I don't he wants to belong as much as want to be considered an authority on the matter. He wants to be the one others look up to as a sage.  Like it was when all the posters were as stupid as him.


It's his will to power, his stupidity scripted will to power being blocked. Which is ultimate behind the refusal to leave and insistence on posting from the wise sage-like position. 


He are the adversaries that blocks his will to power. 


It's completely triggered. Pretty much anything you say will contested just for being the person responsible for blocking that will to power.


Do you really believe in the words you speak?
Working character profile. 


What is this all about then?  


My interest is more to defy those who deny the fact that Satanism is a religion or says things like "Satanism is not a religion, it's a philosophy". I even got banned from a satanic group because the admin bitch considered me to be a "dickhead" to point that out.


What if you dont speak facts?  Then you just want everyone to agree with your words. You at very least consider yourself an authority on the matter. When pushed on that you reiterate your pre school insight and immediately take positions from the teacher position. You want it acknowledge you have things of value to say. Your reactions are your tells. You have been damaged by the experience and your adversarial actions in discourse are to fight for the value of what you say to be agreed upon. Anything less would not be to the standard you feel you deserve. On that, you simply do not acknowledge the world where you are anything less than a NECESSITY in any forum or group on this subject. 


And it also prevents you from both realizing and admitting to not knowing what you are talking about when being called out for it. Yeah, you read a book. 


You really gonna deny the selfish will to power of it all? 


Are you altruistic now? 


No, I am standing in the way of your upward ascent, as scripted by your limitations and ardent belief in the consistency and legitimacy of your prattling.  Everyone that bans you is just getting in your way. 


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
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What if you dont speak facts?  Then you just want everyone to agree with your words. You at very least consider yourself an authority on the matter. 


Authority of what? To say Satanism is a religion is like saying the earth is round. To defy those who deny the fact that Satanism is a religion or claiming it's "an atheist philosophy that reject religion"has become an obsession to me. Yes my experience with admin bitches have indeed had an impact of developing my obsession.
 They don't like the fact that Satanism is a religion because they associates it with Christianity which again demonstrates Christianity still controls them. There are also those who deny it because they can't identify themselves as they see no reason to perform rituals or participate in ceremony.



Aborior Translatione

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What if you dont speak facts?  Then you just want everyone to agree with your words. You at very least consider yourself an authority on the matter. 


Authority of what? To say Satanism is a religion is like saying the earth is round. To defy those who deny the fact that Satanism is a religion or claiming it's "an atheist philosophy that reject religion"has become an obsession to me. Yes my experience with admin bitches have indeed had an impact of developing my obsession.
 They don't like the fact that Satanism is a religion because they associates it with Christianity which again demonstrates Christianity still controls them. There are also those who deny it because they can't identify themselves as they see no reason to perform rituals or participate in ceremony.




Will you shut the fuck up about rituals... FFS. 



By your own words you are MOST driven by: 

To defy those who deny the fact that Satanism is a religion or claiming it's "an atheist philosophy that reject religion"has become an obsession to me. Yes my experience with admin bitches have indeed had an impact of developing my obsession.

Got a hell of a head snake there. 


And switch atheist with antitheist and I gotta agree with them. Maybe they are right, and only you want it to be an orthodox religion.  A default behavior is not a religion. Even great devotion to maintaining authentic behavior is not a religion.  


My antitheism is a philosophy that opposes things without phenomenal existence for their lack of usefulness.  But it's a philosophy of the nature of what can be experienced. Defaults as philosophy.


Now assuming you haven't already made up your mind consider your MAIN CONCERN IN SATANISM and the following: 


So you want it acknowledged as a religion?

Definition of religion: 

re·li·gion
/rəˈlijən/
noun

The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


Note superhuman controlling power part. 


Philosophy is defined as: 

phi·los·o·phy
/fəˈläsəfē/
noun

The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

Seriously which one is more in line with something that prides itself on a more honest apprehension of human behavior? 

If the cornerstone of RHP is attainment through faithful belief; then the antithesis is a default philosophy on the human predisposition towards faith itself. 

LHP (in opposition to orthodox Western religion) as a way of life would need to counter the main mode of attainment, spiritual superstition, faith. Rituals and masses are ultimately oxymoronic. And you will never get why. 

Now please argue that Satanism is closer to definition of Religion than Philosophy.  What is your special.definition of religion? 

The entire crux of what drives your adversarial nature is because you are an idiot that is arguing a futile argument you are unable to acknowledge as such.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21

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Now please argue that Satanism is closer to definition of Religion than Philosophy. 


The intellectual decompression chamber creates the emotional state of mind. The invoked Powers of Darkness becomes therefore actual entities as they are from a rational point of view psychological projections of the ego. 

The worship of the Powers of Darkness takes place in the ritual chamber on the satanic holidays celebrating the carnal and worldly. This makes Satanism a religion.


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LHP is lack of religion


LHP is the sinister path to apotheosis and has basically nothing to do with Satanism. Being a Satanist does not necessary mean that you are on the path but it can be used as a wheel on the path. 


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The entire crux of what drives your adversarial nature is because you are an idiot


The term "idiot" in this forum has become like "racism" in mainstream media which just mean "I don't like you". It's an empty word.


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Aborior Translatione
Will you shut the fuck up about the intellectual decompression and your stupid holidays. I dont fucking care about your dark ritual symbolism shit either. That's YOUR deal.  Quit avoiding the fucking question and answer. 


Which one is more in line with Satanism?


A:  


The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


or


B: 


The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.


Which one speaks to BELIEF as the mode of attainment and which one speaks to DOUBT as the mode of attainment? 


Come on those are your words on what the difference is, so Answer, Satanist.


You said that's your MAIN thing keeping you here so you should be able to answer this. 


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LHP is lack of religion (SEE NEW QUOTE)

LHP is the sinister path to apotheosis and has basically nothing to do with Satanism. Being a Satanist does not necessary mean that you are on the path but it can be used as a wheel on the path. 
Wait did you just say LHP and the sinister had nothing to do with Satanism? 
And you wonder why you get shit? 


This just in, Satanism is an orthodox religion with rituals because Tom says so. 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Will you shut the fuck up about the intellectual decompression and your stupid holidays. 

No I won't because that's what makes Satanism whatever you like or not. You can then say you don't like Satanism because you don't like religion. That at least would be more honest.


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A:  


The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


or


B: 


The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.


Both. Philosophy outside TIDC and religion inside TIDC. CoS calls Satanism both a religion and a philosophy. 


Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
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Wait did you just say LHP and the sinister had nothing to do with Satanism? 
And you wonder why you get shit? 

The sinister yes but the LHP no. The LHP is a path you have to walk. Some Satanists do not choose to walk the path because they feel no need for it or are satisfied with their life as it is. I personally walk the path but I did that before I got introduced to Satanism.
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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Satanism is an orthodox religion with rituals because Tom says so. 

No, it rather belongs to the 
category of self religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_religion
Aborior Translatione
So Satanists can use baseless belief as a mode of attainment as long as they acknowledge it as silly and baseless? 


Then it has no true operative use. It's acknowledged as bullshit, correct?  You have to ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN YOUR MAGICAL GODLIKE POWER before it becomes a religion. If YOU DONT BELIEVE; IT CANT BE BOTH. 


The way you walk into these is an absolute riot, slugger. 

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Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Aborior Translatione Satanism is an orthodox religion with rituals because Tom says so. 

No, it rather belongs to the 
category of self religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_religion
Okay, listed alongside Scientology and Rastafarians. 


So Spaceships and Christianity. 


What differentiates self religion from a book by Dr. Phil?  The self-help section at Barnes and Noble? Would parroting Self Matters make being a fan of his writing the Religion of Dr. Phil if you applied it to your life? 


Still, I'll give you "self religion".


But is there is there only one self help book or are there many that pull from all angles? 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
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Then it has no true operative use. 


It has but there are just disagreements why it have it's operate use. Religion is a tool to maintain and it has always been it's function.

Quote from Aborior TranslationeIt's acknowledged as bullshit, correct?

No, it's the area of unknown. 


Quote from Aborior Translatione You have to ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN YOUR MAGICAL GODLIKE POWER before it becomes a religion. 

Wrong again. Doubt can also takes place in religion which is seen in both Buddhism and Christianity. You demonstrates more and more that all your words are empty. It's pure rhetoric.



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Aborior Translatione
We are talking about attainment.


Religion as attainment defers to the supernatural and abstraction.


Think Brahman and Atman. The belief in otherworldly mechanisms and abilities, but mostly divine cause for our experiences. Maybe dark forces and whatnot. That's religion.  I got semantic so I can't get snippy when you do it, but really "Self religion"? Can you separate TSB from Dionetics or Any Self Realization Transcendental bullshit here? 


Still if your attainment is primarily the suspension of disbelief and intellectual decompression (AND YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT SO IT MUST BE IMPORTANT) then it's a spiritual copout because you are still wired to the abstract nature of the ritual attainment. Tje religion is the decompression chamber to you. 


What opposes: 


Brahman and Atman. The belief in otherworldly mechanisms and abilities, but mostly divine cause for our experiences?


It is the thing you fight in atheism.  It is the demanding of proof and the wiring to need proof to hold value in an idea. That's the doubt. Allergy to abstraction..


I can't suspend my disbelief. I can't use intellectual decompression BECAUSE ITS STUPID AND POINTLESS AND HOLDS NO PHENOMENAL VALUE IN REAL TIME ATTAINMENT. Which is rooted in empiricism and sensory perception primarily.


Where faith and the ability to suspend disbelief is concerned my satanism sees it as a condition of wiring, possibly rooted in genetic memory. Along the lines of Richard Dawkins. I then incorporate many ither philosophies of human behavior to make up my adversarial position against the cornerstone of RHP attainment. Superstition. 


What do you think about that? 



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Tom Riddle
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I can't use intellectual decompression BECAUSE ITS STUPID AND POINTLESS AND HOLDS NO PHENOMENAL VALUE IN REAL TIME ATTAINMENT. 


Meaning that you are not a Satanist and that's fair enough. Satanism is not for anyone.
Anna
Anna May 1 '21

"Doubt can also takes place in religion which is seen in both Buddhism and Christianity. "


Fuck off Christianity, twat. There is no place for doubt in Christianity. The whole point of Christianity is the blind belief in God. Blessed are those who haven't seen but believe. Belief without seeing and complete trust in God, whose plans you don't know but you believe He knows better. Dunno about Buddhism but it's deeply spiritual. What it shares with Christianity is the contempt for the worldly. Though it calls it dukkha and not sin, still the attitude to the material world is pretty much the same. It hinders the spirit.


Satanism is carnal, material, it's the glorification of the ego. Religion is about transcending the ego and the carnal. Satanism is not the religion. It's the opposite of religion.

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Aborior Translatione

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I can't use intellectual decompression BECAUSE ITS STUPID AND POINTLESS AND HOLDS NO PHENOMENAL VALUE IN REAL TIME ATTAINMENT. 


Meaning that you are not a Satanist and that's fair enough. Satanism is not for anyone.
Quote of the fucking thread! 


You are like Hepatitis C without liver failure, the annoying gift that keeps on giving.


So, I'm not a Satanist cuz I can't play pretend for my personal development? 


How will I solve my problems and overcome adversity if I can't do rituals in a decompression chamber!  I need an abstract demon to give me power and change causality for me!


It's not that stupid fucking rituals have no ability to effect the outcome if I can't derive a psychological benefit from it. How the fuck is a ritual suppose to change causality if all it can do is change your mindset? It has no phenomenal value unless you make a different decision because of it. 


WHAT I DONT NEED IS A FUCKING RITUAL CHAMBER TO ANALIZE MY OWN AND SOCIETAL BEHAVIOR. That's just acting for yourself and observing others, and then contemplating it. Only the spiritual minded need to make that into a pageant. The Satanists just do. 


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 1 '21
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Satanism is carnal, material, it's the glorification of the ego. Religion is about transcending the ego and the carnal. Satanism is not the religion. It's the opposite of religion.


Satanism is a carnal religion. The worship of The Powers of Darkness is for celebrating the carnal and wordily because it's what they represents and this takes place in the intellectual decompression chamber on the satanic holidays. Spirituality also plays a role for some Satanists and they incorporates it into their ritual practice. The LHP is a spiritual path. The inverted pentagram represents bending the spiritual to the individual's will meaning that spirituality serves the carnal or material purposes.
Aborior Translatione

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Satanism is carnal, material, it's the glorification of the ego. Religion is about transcending the ego and the carnal. Satanism is not the religion. It's the opposite of religion.

Fucking this.  From a Polish Catholic Woman.


And Buddhism is not spiritual if you look at their trinity. Bullet point universal laws. From the outside it looks spiritual but really it's attempting to unlock the universe and self without the supernatural.


Consider Anatta.


The antithesis of Atman.


It is a religious position of antitheism.  All manner of existence is impermanent, hostile, and phenomenal.


No Atman. No channel of god and causality. No divine purpose. Life exists primarily as what is experienced by the senses.  In this it describes the cosmic order as an aggregate of all phenomenal parts.


It's fucking beautiful for a mainstream religion.  


Quite heterodox out west. 

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