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Tom Riddle: LHP is the sinister path to apotheosis and has basically nothing to do with Satanism. Being a Satanist does not necessary mean that you are on the path but it can be used as a wheel on the path. 

LaVey TSB – Page 28:

‘The Satanic religion has not merely lifted the coin - it has flipped it completely over. Therefore, why should it support the very principles to which it is completely opposed by calling itself anything other than a name which is totally in keeping with the reversed doctrines which make up the Satanic philosophy? Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path.’

LaVey TSB – Page 78

‘At least one black candle is placed to the left of the altar, representing the Powers of Darkness and the left-hand path.’

LaVey TSB – Page 86

‘Strengthen with fire the marrow of our friend and companion, our comrade of the Left-Hand Path.’

Tom, I find your “arguments” to be rather intellectually dishonest. It is a well known fact that Satanism is essentially LHP.   

So my failure to embrace it like an orthodox religion of rituals and practices disqualifies me? 

So as the mundane religion of symbols, set rituals, and practices it's satanic, but when you go and only use Satan to transgress the status quo it isnt? 

Are you actually arguing that, Tommy? 

I know you are deaf, dumb, and blind, but can you at least play pinball?

Tom Riddle: Is it LHP just to participate in ceremony during the satanic holidays? Some Satanists do not perform ritual and ceremony at all unless they can find a group. Are these on the path? What does the LHP means to you?

I’m not particularly interested in discussing rituals/ceremonies, and satanic holidays with you.

This is the fundamental point: you have constantly held up The Satanic Bible as the core book defining legitimate Satanism as opposed to something else. However, it appears that you have misunderstood the most basic claim made in that book – that Satan is the personification of the left hand path, and hence, as a consequence, that Satanism is essentially a left hand path religion/philosophy/praxis.

There is no point insisting that people, who join this forum, for instance, should be expected to read TSB and understand TSB, if you yourself haven’t understood it.

Wow – that is a fundamental misunderstanding on your part. All of Anton LaVey’s claims in TSB ultimately rely on a LHP viewpoint and praxis.

‘The Satanic religion has not merely lifted the coin - it has flipped it completely over. Therefore, why should it support the very principles to which it is completely opposed by calling itself anything other than a name which is totally in keeping with the reversed doctrines which make up the Satanic philosophy? Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path.’

My translation of the above (How I interpret this):

It focuses on the real. The apprehension of Satanism is embracing life for the visceral. The phenomenal. Fucking. Feasting. Fulfillment without the dogmas or commands to amass in a ritual chamber. 

But most importantly Satanism as LHP is the opposition of the way "they" live. The herd. They focus on church, and prayer, and connection to characters like Jesus. They derive their attainment from this superstitious connection. They strive to live in abstract images of morality and society. Following rather than opposing under such dogmatic practices and codes. They use fear and coercion to keep it most important. Keep THEIR faith most important.

LHP attainment uses Satan Ironically as a purposeful antagonist and satire of orthodox practices first and foremost. Which is why and how it personifies the Left Hand Path. 

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I In my analysis of TSB then I'm more focused on the second half part because the first half part lacks some explanations into details. What does it mean that Satan is a personification of the LHP? Why do LaVey not go into more details on the religious holidays in book of Lucifer? Pointing out some specific theme, psychodramas or ceremony related to the holidays? What is the actual point with Book of Satan?

In the original version the first two books is all he initially submitted. He later added a bunch of silly group activities and psychodrama rituals to fill space knowing full well THE IRONY of adding it. You know that right? 

You can't catch that when he added "enochian keys"? John Dees stupid debunked language? Satanists like fucking with people for their own and the people who catch it's amusement. It's a thing. 

That you want Satanism to be the second part shows you are spiritually, religiously, and dogmatically wired. 

How Satan personifies the LHP in Christian Society:

It's the antagonist and that which seeks to pervert moral virtue, law, and blind faith.  It has kept the church in business hasn't it? Satan's use as part of LHP attainment is capitalizing on Satan's "aura" to contest and transgress the taboos and morals or normative culture.  It need not be an actual belief.  Where god says let it go, Satan says get revenge. Where god says it is a moral, Satan says it's an idea of a man. Along those lines. 

Its what we have spent two months trying to fucking tell you..

And now you're asking him like it's going to make you get that.

Tom Riddle: What is the actual point with Book of Satan?

What I recommend: stop focusing so much on ritual greater magic and getting together on satanic holidays and celebrations. These sorts of practices and get togethers only occupy a fraction of a sincere Satanists time. Many sincere Satanists wouldn’t do this sort of stuff anyway.

‘The Book of Satan’ was more or less re-quoted from a book called ‘Might is Right’ by Ragnar Redbeard

http://maistre.uni.cx:70/Texts/Reaction%20%281%29/Redbeard%2C%20Ragnar/Might%20Is%20Right.pdf

If you really want to understand LaVey then you have to carefully study ‘The Book of Satan.’ I mean why wouldn’t you focus a lot of attention on this part of TSB – it is ‘The Book of Satan’ in ‘The Satanic Bible.’

This part of TSB is not a mere polemic or just a statement of heresy or a parody – the content of that part of TSB implies a whole LHP worldview, it implies an entire satanic ontology.

And keep this in mind I’m not going to explain this stuff to you, because a genuine Satanist, who recognizes him/herself as a genuine Satanist, already knows this stuff.

The Book of Satan is by far the most important part of TSB.

ALL founders of religions have been transgressive and showmen. You need to do something extreme to get society's attention but the eccentric people (later known as Satanists) LaVey draw to him was people he could present more serious ideas to. Remember TSB first came 3 years later after the CoS was created.This is also why I pay more attention to the second half of TSB because the first is a bit outdated IMHO. The 3 type of rituals has also been into my criticism based on what I understand as outdated psychology but the intellectual decompression chamber is here to stay and I find it far more relevant now than it perhaps was in LaVey's time. Look at the people in this forum how much they have reacted to me pointing it out. I think truly that if I manage to dare to expose my satanic identify and do the same as LaVey did in my home country it would be very transgressive. Instead of Christianity, a satanic church with the nude woman on the altar on Valborg's night would piss feminists and woke people off but it would on the same time wake Satanists from the underground up to the surface. I encounter a danish Satanist from a random atheist group I was in who asked the same "where are the Satanists?".

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The Book of Satan is by far the most important part of TSB.

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The Book of Satan is by far the most important part of TSB.

Also noted are the wings protruding from their dorsal area, which suggests they can also fly. Usually in organized infinite flocks in a diagonal direction.

Toaster reproduction works like raccoons. A baby toaster has a 1/4 chance of survival.  Some have learned to swim and have been known to kill humans in small bodies of water.

I once had a toaster. And it told me the day would come when the breakfast appliances would rise up and destroy humanity. And then fly away diagonally. 

The same could be said for the Church of Satan.

Meanwhile, the Seven Tenets nauseate me. Count the number of times the word "should" appears. Seven times in seven tenets! 

The only tenet I like at all is the third one: "One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone." But even that one is really just virtue signaling.

I tend to think the leaders of the Satanic Temple fashioned those seven bromides as political air cover for when they storm the beaches of Christian privilege in the United States. I doubt the followers, or at least most of them, grasp the calculating cynicism of that tactic. In fact the very concept of calculating cynicism probably offends them.

Denmark doesn't have the type of stupid America has in the numbers it does. You don't have a rampant culture of breeding zealots with equally stupid children. That's enough for me to personally support TST's abortion raffles for how they troll Christians and threaten their zygote children. 

* And anyone who tries to learn through YouTube videos deserves to be misled. What a faulty fucking source to learn about something if you are ignorant to it. Have you seen some (most of) these 'Satanist' YouTubes? It's like fucking 2nd graders teaching kindergartners the alphabet and getting it wrong. There's some good videos, but could the unacquainted recognize them outright?  

Most use Google. And the first result is the wikipedia page. Which does enough to keep people confused. TST results bottom of page 1. 

But before you get to TST there are "Liberal" (NPR) news stories such as this: 

https:///...s-time-through-qanon

The Rainbow Unicorn Satan, while providing a nice bit of PR for TST, ultimately does nothing to abate the most fearful and religious. 

*On a side note.* 

I need to get another one. Another hit for immortality.  Does anyone have a connection to some "juice"? There are still tons of kids that go missing so you can't tell me it's in short supply right now. Anyone? 

I know there's some Satanism freak to take me higher than I have ever been before.

Raoul Duke: We should get some of that.

Dr. Gonzo : Some of what?

Raoul Duke : Extract of pineal. Just eat a big handful and see what happens.

Dr. Gonzo : Shit, that's a good idea. One whiff of that stuff will turn you into something out of a goddamn medical encyclopedia...

[Duke tripping sees Gonzo turn into Satan] 

Raoul Duke : Beautiful fucking tits, man!

....

Dr. Gonzo : Man, I'll try just about anything, but I'd never in hell touch a pineal gland.

What we need is a critical thinking test for voters and a veracity test for candidates.

Unfortunately, seriously promoting that solution would result in civil war. Still, if the people promoting the solution won the war, the door would be open to a promising social experiment.

-- Rape and torture of young children, and harvesting of their blood for youth and for the psychedelic high of adrenochrome. Preferably the 5 year old male.

-- Scientific research and development of new technologies that will never be disclosed to the public. Most of you are going to die before this sees the light of day.

-- Alien contact and manifestation of extradimensional beings via synthetic programmable biological organisms. This many will see. The Aliens aren't from space. They've been here for thousands of years, observing us from underground. There also been created new ones. 

-- Ritual Ceremony, Magic, and Psychic training. Some are of the belief that this reality is really some form of illusion, and it can be manipulated. Mind may be the prevailing force of nature, and all else falls into accordance with the abyss. There is thought to be one over-mind, for which we are all but a fraction (Lucifer, Demiurge, Star-maker). However, during particular states of consciousness, mind does overcome matter in a seemingly mystic way. Science will come to explain this phenomena before science is broken and forgotten altogether.  

I thought the aliens were holograms? You are conflating conspiracies. The extradimensional is the Area 51 caller, and the fake alien invasion is operation bluebeam. 

But extradimensional beings you say?

How do they decompactify themselves from a Calabi-Yau Manifold?  

Or did you mean dimensions like an aether realm filled disembodied shit? 

I don't even think remote telekinetic ability needs an ethereal realm.  I would think it's more in line with resonances. 

See, you read the wrong conspiracies.

These are the right conspiracies to look into concerning "extradimensional" things. 

Always go with declassified shit. Like Stanford experiments into remote viewing with scientologist Ingo Swann and the CIA.  Particularly the premise of MEST (in scientology - who all bullshit aside have some interesting ideas) which had implications in these experiments not declassified until Operation Stargate was made public in the 90's. 

This is from their own Wikipedia. Don't know what that really says, but this from "Supernatural Abilities in Scientology". 

Two Scientologists, Hal Puthoff and Ingo Swann, researched remote viewing at Stanford Research Institute for the CIA Project Stargate in the 1970s. Most of the SRI team, including project director Puthoff, and the CIA's star "psychic spies", Price and Swann, were Scientologists, a fact that skeptic Martin Gardner noted disparagingly. Puthoff and Swann were of the "original" Operating Thetan (OT) VII level (the Church has since 'changed' OT VII from the level these two completed), and credited Scientology with their success in the CIA remote viewing program

And also look into satallite mind control. 

Did you know another declassified CIA experiment showed that a wave could be broadcast from orbit within the ELF range that can effect the mood of people in the targeted area? Like figuring out that 14.8 hertz can increase anger and irritation within test subjects.  I think I saw that on, "Incredible But True".

There's also accidental discoveries like the human mind being able to hear audible clicks of a radar dish they are standing near without being able to hear the scope itself. 

Consider the dramatized version of "Men Who Stare At Goats", and the infamous totally fictional scene where he knocks over the goat with his mind 'remotely'. Shit off people's shelves is easier from what I hear. 

Your reading the wrong shit. FOIA is the way to go. And it only leads you to classified technology and "mind hacking".  

When you begin to think in terms of wave, vibration, and frequency, things begin to click, don't they?

Electromagnetic frequencies have long been known to alter states of consciousness within living organisms, and it can do more. Think of the possibilities with 5G! You'll feel like you're burning! 

The substratum of the brain and consciousness is an electromagnetic matrix. When you tamper with this matrix, you receive different outputs for given inputs; hence the input-output loop is perturbed. This could be experienced as a change in mood, among other things. 

This is why Ritual and Ceremony are important, especially when attempting to perform Magic. By altering your state of consciousness, or that of an entire mass of people, you begin the alter the exterior collective matrix of matter. This highly energized vibration emanating from the mind(s) of the practitioner(s) can produce tangible effects, to which extent is to be tested experimentally and experientially. 

You're so close! Just connect the dots!