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TST would call Satan a "dickhead"...

But everyone always "sees themselves refelected in The Satanic Bible and KNOW for certain it is them!" It speaks to them. But when it comes introspection of pejoritive personality and character traits everyone's too cool for school.

"This is so me, except the sins because those are written later, like commandments, and I am the exemplary." 

It speaks only until one has to look at themselves and suddenly becomes oxymoronic mandates.  If the essays spoke to the positive attributes why can't the 'sins', the negatively impactful shortcomings, also speak to a person?  If it speaks to a specific type then the sins should be recognized on par with everything else. 

I thought Satanists were suppose to know thyself? Recognize when someone's holding the right door open? 

The key is character integrity. Always has been, always will.

And I'm still a massive 'satanic sinner' in this regard. Moreso in real life. 

What about you? 

Personally I think you try to get it, but it bleeds through as "faking it" when you categorically reject the statements and sins while keeping the ritual SHIT written in the last half of TSB on a pedestal. 

You have used "Have you even read TSB" so this is a valid criticism. 

There's no personal driving ethos and social commentary allowed. Just recognizing the Satanism of standing in a closet shoving chicken feathers up your ass and clucking.

When it comes to the second half part then it's pure pragmatism. I have been skeptical towards LaVey's concept of ritual magic but when it comes to ceremony and holiday I see the it as a tool to maintain a satanic culture or tribe which is benefiting for the individual Satanist. 

That's what you said.

Now answers Anna's question please? 

Here I will get you started. 

I think it hits at the heart of that satanic character trigger. Those satanic traits. 

You are never going to find a single personal cause without some social parallel in methodology. Someone else has done what you chose to do for a similar ethical reason In a similar position. 

In this we focus on the artificial dictates that exist. Social code, morals, and laws are necessary for any adversary to manifest. In a culture of saturated evangelical orthodoxy certain characters become a taboo to embrace.

Evangelicals think abortion and the devil are cultural evils. In that a person embracing such a movement establishes personal autonomy from the localized status quo they want to undermine. Would you not agree?  

Think of it like "paradigm shifting". The use of a premise as a temporary vehicle in your autodeification. Use once and destroy. 

On another day that same person could be pissed off by whiny liberals. Hitler is the devil of the liberals. That person could then shift to "a white supremacy" vehicle to autodeify from GLAAD status quo. Both these can happen sequentially without hypocrisy.

Do you get why?

I think TST would have better chance to succes if they used an other symbol because Christians and muslims or jews who are gay, modern women or trans could find conservative bibel belt Christianity problematic. 

Here's a Satanic Question.

And I LOVE this example.

In 1988, at the heart of The Satanic Panic, Christian idiocy and herd behavior was noticeably endemic.

What would you do? 

If you were being assumed or accused of being a devil worshipping pedophile forcing children to take part in sex rituals, what would you be most prone to doing and why? 

A. Explain satanism is a personal choice of skepticism and hold your ground while defending yourself against criticism.

B. Switch the blame and accuse them of a herd-minded witch-hunt. 

C. Take out an add saying "pageant children wanted for ritual performance. White children preferred." or something similarly inciting of your adversaries. 

To a satanic person, I guarantee one answer stands out without deviation. Call it a fucking litmus test. And it's a fucking simple one. 

The Satanic Panic was not about Satanism. It was a modern witch hunt. A hysteria just like in the 16-17 century.

Defend yourself against criticism and demand proof. I didn't add that, but it's the same type of response. 

You make yourself play defense if you do that. I mean if you want to constantly play defense that works. 

There really is nothing in you that wants to socially transgress with taboo in this situation? Sort of incite them further using their boogieman or emotions? Like your cat knocking over your cup and looking at you like, "What you gonna do now?"

Why not? 

If someone accused me for being a devil worshipper I would not care. It is if they accused me for being a pedophile sacrificing women I would react to it because that's a serious accusation that can ruin any man's life. 

Fair enough, but are you sure? 

Why did you write the MGTOW thread? 

What response did you want? What herd behavior did you want to incite with that over the top appeal? 

MGTOW is good vehicle if you want transgress women empowerment or even an overbearing mother. 

Where did your appropriation of that vehicle come from?

MGTOW is just like Satan ad a social antagonist.

"I actually think it's even have the OPPOSITE effect. If you mock bible belt Christianity you only proves to it's adherents that they are important. TST creates only more radical conservative Christians and TST's insane followers can give radical Christians new methods to collect more members to their sects "you can see how the devil has possessed this crazy retard transgender dude, the end is near, so we must repent now!". 

What you do not understand is that it doesn't have to serve an utilitarian purpose. If Satan is an adversary and accuser (and you seem to claim likewise) then transgression is an end in itself. If we wish to talk about pragmatism, then LaVey would be more successful with his church endeavor if he called it the Church of Reason, the Church of Scepticism or the Church of Doubt. Yet he chose specifically Satan, not worrying too much about its provocative effect. Or, perhaps, that was his aim; pure provocation?

"No, why should I?"

Well shit... because you call yourself a Satanist.

My criticism of MGTOW has also been that to many of them in my experience are Christians that seems to have become more bible believers because "it contains the red pill". Ironically it's an example on how TST's activities empowers the conservative branches of Christianity.

What differentiates social transgression from trolling?

You see the reaction by feminists editing the Facebook and turning into a whatever evil they want to call it. In incited herd behavior it serves it's purpose. You don't even have to believe in it. You just use it like an offensive family guy joke. And then prepare for the discomfort and cosequences of trolling with it.  

It exposes many for their mundane overreaction to mean and taboo views. Your not breaking a crime. You are just saying shit people don't like.

And if you view THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT IN THE WORLD as people reacting to things that are said, one could hop on board with many number of idea just because they do something to undermine society.