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Doesn't accusation also apply to every dictate and from any angle? 

Lucifer accused god, Moses accused The Pharaoh, Jesus accused Roman pagans, Buddha accused the upper castes of Indian society, William Wallace accused England, and so on without the accuser's own regard for their well-being...

They are all one in the same, as everyone DID SOMETHING and ACTED on principle AGAINST status quo. 

And whether myth or historical; one got cast out of paradise, one wandered the desert and survived by raining food - because they managed to make 170 miles take 40 years, one was executed by the state and became a zombie, one sat under a tree and then died of food poisoning, and one was executed by the state and used as bridge adornments.

It is the archetype of self-immolation, or the tendency towards. You can accuse with ironic satire or mocking transgression in fair weather, but when the storm hits it is the character that is willing to be cast down to die for their beliefs and do it alone. The ones that lack rational self interest where unfair authority is concerned.  

Strangely everyone of those had the same desire:

To be free of an authoritative and deemed hypocritical or unfair master. Even if it trades in one god for another the underlying ARCHETYPE has NOTHING TO DO with the application of any later adherents. It always manifests as an underdog against the societal favorite.

In a world full of non-believers it appears as the devout.

Anarchism and Nonbelief are only the symptoms of Satanism Disorder. 

Quote from Tom Riddle The term "Satanism" is pointless right? If so I agree. Why I would state Satanists are born is because it's not about belief or philosophy or ideology but that you can identify yourself with Satan. This is the reason why I see no point in the symbol of Satan if Satanism is not a religion.

Keep in mind Satan in lore is God's subservient frienemy. Making bets with his one time boss to serve an ultimate will. Satan is the father evil, and architect of all that seeks to pervert the divine, like Kali, mythologically speaking. Satan is like God's aversion therapy with sin. It serves the same narrative..

Lucifer however, does. More antihero than trickster. The altercation that made lucifer become Satan  is way more important than any one belief.  The archetype of the underdog. The one taking the stand against the the many. 

That is the operative "archetype" with the "Satanic core". It's integrity and fire of defiant character. What it defies is transitive.  Lucifer's personal integrity told god to suck it, that people identify with it  later doesn't remove it's relation to PERSONAL positions. 

As such, Jesus didn't like the behavior of Rome and used his Jewish convictions to make a PERSONAL defiant stand to accuse Rome.  And he gathered followers for It. 

That said, you're telling me you are so transparently unsatanic that you can't see a parallel between the character traits of Lucifer and  the character of Jesus in how they acted on their principles?

Late edit so it is consistent: 

In a secular society where the inquisition has ended, and heterodoxy is more than woman daring to drive, herd behavior is understood. The use of baseless ideas and the artifial as tools of control is apparent.  When this liberty is upheld all that remains are the delusions of our own existence and its effect on human behavior.  

With religious freedom comes its devaluation. Now heterdoxy can focus on faithful and herd predisposition. 

And if there was a second coming of Jesus he would be called The Antichrist. 

Forexample, as a kid I defied my uncle when he said "do something to others!" where I asked "why? Does it benefits me?". I defied my mother when she forbid me to play with at special kid and I then did it because he was cool. I tried to avenge myself against a dude that humiliated me in front of a girl I was in love with during high school. I accused Wiccan's naivety and irrational beliefs. I did all these things before I became aware of Satanism. I'm the adversary but the adversary of anything that limits my progress and hinder me in taking the pleasures of what this world have to offer. 

Forexample, as a kid I defied my uncle when he said "do something to others!" where I asked "why? Does it benefits me?". I defied my mother when she forbid me to play with at special kid and I then did it because he was cool. I tried to avenge myself against a dude that humiliated me in front of a girl I was in love with during high school. I accused Wiccan's naivety and irrational beliefs. I did all these things before I became aware of Satanism. I'm the adversary... "

The same happened when I wanted to go to the cinema. I was older then. And she didn't want me to. I don't remember what problem she had that time. I went there and let her yell.

Now that my mom is dead, I have nobody to defy. Hey, wait, I defy the mighty government by refusing to wear a mask. All the sheep parade the streets completely masked and I don't. That is until I see cops from afar. 

I'm such the adversary, man, I tell you. I'm Satan incarnate! 

Happy birthday btw.

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Forexample, as a kid I defied my uncle when he said "do something to others!" where I asked "why? Does it benefits me?". I defied my mother when she forbid me to play with at special kid and I then did it because he was cool. I tried to avenge myself against a dude that humiliated me in front of a girl I was in love with during high school. I accused Wiccan's naivety and irrational beliefs. I did all these things before I became aware of Satanism. I'm the adversary but the adversary of anything that limits my progress and hinder me in taking the pleasures of what this world have to offer. 

And I borrowed the screwdriver of an undercover cop living in crime free housing partnership to steal the "Crime Free Housing" sign just to bait her for the bullshit I considered spying on her neighbors. And to get her to blow her cover which I eventually I did another way. I had a problem with undercover spies that lie as a matter of profession and serve a corrupt greater good idea they uphold.  

Not trying to one up you, it just brings up a point. We all have similar examples in our lives. Some of us hundreds of examples. 

My question there is how did you push the sometimes humorous boundaries with your transgressions of your mom's status quo? 

For example, when you made friends with the retarded kid how did you push the boundaries of that with the mother that forbid you? If we define the ethical line as playing with the helmet kid, how did you rub it in your mom's face. 

Did you just hang out with him, or did you push the boundaries to piss your mom off more? 

Did you do finger painting or other special kid activities and then proudly share it?

I once knew this satanic chick with shitbag drunken racist catholic parents. Catholicism is corporal punishment incarnate. She would make friends with black kids and then call them idiot backwards racists as they hit her for it. Said she would rather get beaten then be like them. 

Like there was a natural aversion to favorable treatment under the circumstances.  Most kids would learn to be racist shitbags too and not have the defiance of mind to stand apart. And all the core took was making that one initial taboo friendship (and the response) to crystallize. 

Why the conflict aversion?

So where's the accuser in that?

I see rational self interest ultimately.  I see the all too mundane trait of escaping adversity through conformity. It's Lucifer sucking it up or William Wallace taking the lordship and calling himself Scotish anyway. 

The Satanist core has an integrity and prideful self interest that invalidates rational self interest as attaining in any way. 

Sure avoiding conflict is self serving, but holds less integrity than a sieve holds liquid. 

And if you really want to see self serving and carnal behavior you should meet a sex addict minister embezzling money from a church.  But if you want to make Satanism acting like an entitled self-serving back-stabbing cheerleader have at it. 

Did you also know it's a tell that you deleted the last part in bold? 

So how can you be of the accuser/opposer/adversary if you're not willing to be cast down? Self immolation is part and parcel to prideful individualism associated with that fucking character.  

The Satan you defer to is a Christian complex of the perversion of virtue but lacks the personality to throw down a flaming sword. It's a defecto corruption of "good".  The character of the self-serving Satan is an unadmirable pile of dogshit on a par with a prison rat anyway. Why do want to be a self-serving underhanded twat without integrity?

Who found a validation to be an asshole here? 

And the tell is not irrelevancy.  It is that you realized how what you said could be construed and in service of vanity you removed it. And it's a transparently superficial hypocritical back-peddling that exposes your dependence on validation. 

If you edit you can't change the context to save face. Like deleting threads you get called out on, or you think wouldn't serve your need. You can add, or clarify, but you can't delete it and say you meant something else. 

Once again it speaks to a need for validation. Your ego just can't be wrong.  

I mean you are always wrong, but your ego can't think it's wrong.

So pitifully mundane. 

You changed the context entirely to support the delusion you tell yourself. Its like you are wired to have no integrity.  You'll say it's a personality trait and when it's not the right one you go back to saying it's the religion of Satan. Perhaps you are really the archetype of Veruca Salt.  Don't care how, You are right now. 

So I'll ask once again. 

How can you be of the accuser/opposer/adversary if you're not willing to be cast down? Self immolation is part and parcel to prideful individualism associated with that fucking character.  

How can you be the adversary incarnate if you defer to rational self interest to avoid unfavorable conditions? 

How about another, for repetition. 

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Because I'm the adversary of those parts within myself that limits me such as weakness, ignorance and acting on emotions without being aware of the consequences. 

Sure, the exclusion from online mutual adoration clubs hurts. The rejection hurts also in the virtual reality or, at least, this is what most wise psychologists say. That the human mind, hungry for acceptance, cannot tell the difference between the real rejection and virtual one. Since the pain of social condemnation is real even on a Satanic forum and the best way to overcome the fear of rejection is through confronting it, then the best way to learn something would be to treat it as a psychodrama, willingly seek drama, conflict and resulting troubles as a form of a therapy. The aim would be to get used to the bitter consequences so that you are no longer afraid of them and no longer avoid them. Hopefully, with the passage of time, you will start displaying such an attitude in your daily life. I mean you will be more willing to say "fuck you" straight to people's faces. Or use more polite phrases, like "No way. Not gonna happen", "No I will not do it no matter what". Or less polite phrases, like "Go fuck yourself, sir or madame." As they say, no gain without pain.

Social ostracism is a tool of control. Sometimes, it's necessary and useful. I don't reject conformity altogether. But often it makes you compromise not only your integrity and a system of values but also your own interests as an individual. Then it is the time to stand up to whoever tries to make you lose dignity while accepting all the consequences that might go together with the confrontation. And you can't get through that if fear of losing it blocks you. In the long term being a subservient and needy bitch doesn't pay off.

If you are an adversary to your weaknesses, what makes you different from Christians confessing their sins and trying to improve themselves to fit the religious ideal. Educate me, please, because I fail to see any difference between you and an average theist, except for using the devil as a fetish.

An other difference between Satanists and Christians is that the Christian don't need occult ritual and symbolism because he is a believer. When you are a doubter which is an intellectual state of mind then you need to decompress your intellect in order to become a believer. In this case the believer in magic and the powers of darkness which from an intellectual or rational point of view is superstitious nonsense.