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Zach Black Owner
Zach Black Dec 12 '19
I am curious. Does anyone here have any proof this has ever been done? Or, does anyone without proof believe they have done this? 


This is not a sarcastic post nor am i trying to set someone up for ridicule. I just want to hear it. Kinda like ' I saw a UFO !'  . ( I actually did ) . 



Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Dec 12 '19


Well, UFO's exist and are technologically based. If you go through AFA (Air Force ROTC) it has a curiculum devoted to it, ghosts and paranormal shit doesn't require a brief or even compare.


Keep in mind people are wired to believe shit moving without seeming cause is explained through invalid causal reasons, such as ghosts. They really can't help their programming, really.  


Though I will say once you witness telepathy, a lot like harmonic levitation, you will never fear the poltergeist. Jerky sudden animation of the inanimate becomes completely scientific. 


I too want to hear testimonials, as I enjoy debunking faith-based/uncritical reasoning.


And speaking of which...


Believe it or not, Zach, you saw (Phoenix incident) a neutral buoyancy 'delta wing stealth airship' with a wingspan 20% longer than an A380 (around 315 ft), and later drones. The Air Force was testing a low altitude vehicle. They purposely flew over Las Vegas, Prescott Valley, Phoenix, and Tucson to test new "Invisibility technology" like this..  Except for the whooshing sound of "air propulsion" (releasing of its own ballast, helium, through directional valves), it is completely silent. Chronology of sighting timeframe suggests a speed of 80-90 knots. 


That's why everyone who saw the "V shaped craft" reported it as "shimmering" and virtually without sound.  After calls flooded in to 911 centers about a 'giant flying V' The USAF sent up a bunch of drones (or other craft that can hover) to distract everyone with a light show, and of course focus on whether or not they were flares dropped from A-10's. 


They even tested on a night everyone was looking at the sky to see a comet. 




After that you stop giving a shit what an Air Force Base in the Nevada desert does with its contractors. 

The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Dec 12 '19
Username333
Username333 Mar 30 '21
Yep I've summoned demons Zach, unfortunately there's not even a bit of evidence i can share. 

I've even seen people being possessed by demons and I've been possessed too. A lot of fun makes you want to be high on LSD and forget everything. lol 
darkravenus666
darkravenus666 Apr 1 '21
i want to summon demons lol. 
Aborior Translatione
Demons (And also psychic ability) Demystified. 


Artifacts of the mind. They occur simply by having knowledge of demonology and what is referred to in Nepal as a Tulpa, or in Stephen King as Tony, The Little Kid That Lives In Danny's Mouth. 


You can hear shit. Talk to shit. Skim some crazy psychic world wide web and gleam answers from the white noise of your own thoughts. You can even refine it and differentiate levels of plausibility in that white noise. None of it needs anything ethereal to happen either. 


Remember it can only tell you what you have knowledge of. Like all superstition it is locatotional and based on colloquial lore. You feed it. You make it. You experience it. Or "channel it", as its called. And if the belief you put in is strong enough you will get broken by it. You can end up like Agent Cooper on Twin Peaks smashing your face on a mirror asking where Annie is. And that's not a joke. 


So strong it can make true believers out of almost anyone. 


It will become your fears and fall right into the Christian dynamic simply because you have knowledge of that myth. 


They work like schizophrenic hallucinations in they are scripted by stimulus in the life of the individual. 


If the case of John Nash: breaking one code for the Military once led to him thinking Ed Harris enlisted him to find messages in periodicals. His enrollment in college gave himself a roommate. Works like that. 


The unknown part of this delves into telekinesis. And once you've seen it done you start wondering, maybe it's the just belief that a place is haunted that causes all these MOTHERFUCKING ANNOYING SHORT BURSTS OF KINETIC MOTION TO HAPPEN? 


"Oh, good for you, you knocked a pen off a shelf. Can you knock over goats too?"

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Berardo Rodriguez Member
Berardo Rodriguez Apr 4 '21
Two months ago I was summoning  Belial the Prince of the earth,  it was in a personal  diabolical ritual, I did it at midnight, but He didn't come at  that moment.  To my surprise,  a week later I had a weird visitation after midnight,  I was not sleeping,  I was seating  and reading,  then somebody knocked at the door of my room, I thought it was the landlord,  I opened it,  and again,  to my surprise,  it was not the landlord,  the landlord's dog was barking very furious  upstairs  looking down to the basement where I have my room. As I said, I opened the door and there He was, I said:"Come in,  you're very welcome,  but you don't look like the image I had in my mind ",  He asked me:" What image did you have?",  I replied :"  I thought you were taller with a warrior's  armor  and a sword in your hand and black wings ",  He smiled,  He was dressed in a long black robb  , I saw His face  very skinny like a  skull, then in a very serious  and deep voice  He asked me:" How do  you know I am Belial " , I answered Him:" It is because  He is the one I summoned   and I've been waiting for you,  and there is not a  piece of doubt in my mind and heart that you are the one I've been waiting for ,  and why did it take you so long to come?", He answered : " I do what I want in my own time,  tell me what do you want and why did you sommen me?" , I said:" I'm very sick and tired of this fucking life I've been living,  please take me with you,  I'm ready to go ", He looked at me direct to my eyes and I felt His courage coming to me through His eyes,  and in a voice that I can't describe He said: "Not yet ", then He disappeared like smoke in the air. Then the landlord came fro  the third floor to help the dog and he said to his dog :" What's wrong? " , and the dog stopped barking. I kept quiet in my room,  and I have been meditating  on what was going on with me. I don't drink alcohol and I don't take any drugs,  I was not sleeping,  this was so real as when I go to work every day. 
talisman
talisman Apr 6 '21
Well, there is a simple experiment. Can you spend a night alone in a cemetery? If there are no spirits, then this won't be a problem. 
Aborior Translatione
That's actually incredibly fun. Surpassed only by the abandoned sanitarium. 


Can't see shit at the cemetery.. Though places around cemeteries will have stories. 

Where you gotta go is the places where they died, especially dramatic deaths. The lasting imprint of that occurance. 


Pretty much like this: 



Not really ghosts, disembodied spirits or even sentient, but picture shows of fucked up shit as it happened. 


My friend in Wilmington, NC has all types of stories of a certain rural road where it's par-for-the-course to see entire families lynched in the trees. Mirrored by the dozens of historical occurrences of that actually happening in that very locale. Snapshots of trauma.


You don't see them at the cemetery, you see them in the trees they were literally lynched in. 


We will call this the "Arlie Gardens Challenge", where people keep seeing it even without conscious knowledge of the lore associated.  


I personally think, based on my own experience,  it's sort of a "collective unconcsious schizophrenia". Daylight dreams of historical significance, sometimes of things you may not be consciously aware of.  


I won't even say it's an optical illusion either, or call them retarded. My ex saw it in broad daylight without me even bringing it up or knowledge of the local urban legend. I know these people know what they are seeing isn't an eye trick. 


Anyway, why do stories of supernatural occurances suggest there are spirits when It could just as easily suggest something about our temporal existence. Time snapshots or something. People seeing discrepancies in time itself.


Anyway. 


Sleeping in haunted creepy places is a FUCKING BLAST.


The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Apr 6 '21
talisman
talisman Apr 6 '21
Well, in the movies there should be a bloodshed for spirits to occur. There's a lot of Hollywood in you mind. It's just an emotion industry that teaches you where and when and what to feel. That has nothing to do with spirits really. 
Aborior Translatione
Stephen King's head. And you missed the point entirely. Do you know the Dutch kid? 



The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Apr 6 '21
Wolfie
Wolfie Jun 21 '21
I've never summoned but I've invoked. I differentiate between invoke and evoke. To invoke is to activate one of your unconscious mental processes. To evoke is to activate something that exists independently of you. I invoke.


The "magic" of invocation is in the focusing of your passions. It's similar to martial arts, where you focus the momentum of your body. When you focus your passions, you can master tactical situations in ways you couldn't have done before. All of your passions become weapons. Your fear becomes a shield, your anger a sword, your lust a net, your greed a trusty steed, your pride a helmet. You self-actualize. You flow. You engulf. You exert power. You overwhelm. You trancend.


Here's a simple incantation. It activates one particular demon. It isn't useful for every single situation. No single demon is an all-purpose internal process. That's why Satan is imagined as the Lord of Hell. Under him are many legions.








 


  

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jun 21 '21
I just read this. I differentiate the invocation/evocation with respect to the within/without aspects. To invoke is to call within(yourself), which is really no different than a demonic possession which should properly be an evocation : to call forth external to yourself(without).
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jun 21 '21

The within/without concept is relevant across the board pretty much : cosmology, Hermetics, Kabbalah. From the nothingness (zero spatial dimensions) of the inner primordial singularity to the outer illusive aethereal expansion that renders this four dimensional reality construct.


So everything goes haywire once you arrive a particular threshold where the laws of the universe break down, as there is none, in a way we would believe as you have now entered a realm that is the mind of primordial where the only analogy would be that of a microcosmic dream rendering similar illusive spatial geometries.

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 2 '21
Quote from Zach Black I am curious. Does anyone here have any proof this has ever been done? Or, does anyone without proof believe they have done this? 


This is not a sarcastic post nor am i trying to set someone up for ridicule. I just want to hear it. Kinda like ' I saw a UFO !'  . ( I actually did ) . 


If you demand prove for magical invocation you have not understood the concepts of magic. The experience with demons will always be an emotional experience. A psychodrama. As LeRoy used to state. You see the demon with your mind and not with your eyes. Now, since Satanism is a carnal religion it makes only sense for me that the Satanist would conjure demons that relates to lust, compassion and destruction. 
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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 2 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Zach Black I am curious. Does anyone here have any proof this has ever been done? Or, does anyone without proof believe they have done this? 


This is not a sarcastic post nor am i trying to set someone up for ridicule. I just want to hear it. Kinda like ' I saw a UFO !'  . ( I actually did ) . 


If you demand prove for magical invocation you have not understood the concepts of magic. The experience with demons will always be an emotional experience. A psychodrama. As LeRoy used to state. You see the demon with your mind and not with your eyes. Now, since Satanism is a carnal religion it makes only sense for me that the Satanist would conjure demons that relates to lust, compassion and destruction. 

Read in British Narrator voice of Sir David Attenborough: 


Now watch as the lower caste male takes a shot at the alpha. It comes out of nowhere and, yes, there it is, a challenge to authority.  This male desires a position higher up on the pecking order and has now made his grasp for dominance. We will have to watch to see how the others respond.



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Anna
Anna Jul 2 '21

Quote from Dark Enlightenment

Read in British Narrator voice of Sir David Attenborough: 


Now watch as the lower caste male takes a shot at the alpha. It comes out of nowhere and, yes, there it is, a challenge to authority.  This male desires a position higher up on the pecking order and has now made his grasp for dominance. We will have to watch to see how the others respond.




Yeah, Zach gets more and more "clever" challengers as the time passes by.


This Tommy Lucypurr guy is such an amazing little genius that I'm tempted to try to convert him to Christianity. He has already a proper mindset. I must only convince him to conjure Jesus and angels in his mind instead of all those fancy demons.

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Wolfie
Wolfie Jul 2 '21
I take it as axiomatic that an event which only my psyche can detect is an event which only my psyche participated in.


"I summoned the strength to soldier on." Consider that sentence. Now consider this one: "I summoned Hercules who gave me the strength to soldier on." I contend there is very little difference between these two statements. The second merely tells us the psychodynamics at play in my successful bid to overcome fatigue or despair. The first implies some sort of psychodynamics but doesn't make any of it explicit, perhaps because it all took place entirely in the subconscious.

 

Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 2 '21
I know it's not really with the times and full of what I understand the pacified babies call "microaggressions", but I still find the Archetype of Vito Corleone the most powerful in trying situations: 




Strangely, I don't even see this is gender context, I read it is, "nothing cares about your plight so help yourself". 

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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Jul 2 '21
Quote from Tom Riddle
If you demand prove for magical invocation you have not understood the concepts of magic. The experience with demons will always be an emotional experience. 

Well Zach wasn't asking about "invocation" anyway. He was asking about "summoning" which would be the same as 'evocation' - to call forth as in to petition or query et cetera. So in that particular context the phenomenon would be external and IF(big if) occurred might be captured via photography or perhaps some other electronics. Individuals 'claim' to observe various manifestations of these entities, from the fluttering flame of a candle to the patterns and shapes of smoke arising from other burning apparatus. Mostly nothing more than wishful thinking I'd say.


I'm a bit skeptical of the demons found in the Goetia as it appears far too specific(among other things) to the point of being quite alien to me, but one may dream of such things I suppose.


I would treat the demon phenomena the same as the UFO. Some weird shit is observed in the sky : hey it's a UFO, or, closer in proximity and more anthropomorphic or orblike and : hey, it's (maybe) some kind of entity.

I myself really don't have any use whatsoever for all of that demon mumbo jumbo.

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 2 '21
Quote from Cornelius Coburn
Well Zach wasn't asking about "invocation" anyway. He was asking about "summoning" which would be the same as 'evocation' - to call forth as in to petition or query et cetera. So in that particular context the phenomenon would be external and IF(big if) occurred might be captured via photography or perhaps some other electronics. Individuals 'claim' to observe various manifestations of these entities, from the fluttering flame of a candle to the patterns and shapes of smoke arising from other burning apparatus. Mostly nothing more than wishful thinking I'd say.


I'm a bit skeptical of the demons found in the Goetia as it appears far too specific(among other things) to the point of being quite alien to me, but one may dream of such things I suppose.


I would treat the demon phenomena the same as the UFO. Some weird shit is observed in the sky : hey it's a UFO, or, closer in proximity and more anthropomorphic or orblike and : hey, it's (maybe) some kind of entity.

I myself really don't have any use whatsoever for all of that demon mumbo jumbo.


Yeah I know but in the end it's the experience itself and the wanted results that matters. It's all psychodramas.
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