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Ooh, I used the word "Leftist," so I must be a "Right Winger"! Wrong! 

There's a very good point of view within the works of a little-known author named Anton LaVey which is called The Third Side. In my life, I apply this by investigating what is presented to us as an either/or issue - like Republican vs. Democrat or "Pro-Life" vs. "Pro-Choice" - and finding for myself my own set of beliefs. You see, I'd be willing to bet that almost no one is 100% Pro-Life or 100% Pro-Choice. I see it in the actions of those claiming to be either of those things. 

Labels fail me. It's why I'm not either a Conservative or a Liberal. Some things are worth conserving - like Western Civilization, freedom of thought, etc. And some things need to be replaced or destroyed. 

To label all (or even most) Trump supporters as racists or Nazis or anything else is an act of conditioned stupidity. Just as labeling all Bernie supporters as dope-smoking Hippie Communists. It's self-limiting and stupid. But it's easy. And it's comforting. And when you label "those other folks" stupid, racist, Nazi, ignorant, inbred, mindless cultists, you get to pin a big ol' Goodguy Badge on yourself. And you get to hug yourself and feel good for being "good." Congratulations. 

One of the things that amazed me years ago was seeing that Anton LaVey had already seen virtue signaling before anyone had every heard of "virtue signaling" and came up with his own earthy term to warn Satanists away from that stupidity. He called it the Goodguy Badge. It's a type of hypocrisy which is especially self-deceptive, and it fucking surrounds us these days. 

You want to come here and talk to me about race, you can fuck right off. I'm tuned out. Because I don't give a fuck about race. I'm here judging everyone based on their character, their intellect, their personality, and their Satanic thinking. And that's the way it should be. 

Some people say I'm white, but others say I'm not. I had a really fucked-up upbringing surrounded by white and black people deep in poverty. Some of us got out before it killed us. In my present situation, I work for black people who are literal millionaires. Good for them; they owe me nothing. I'm happy with my own life because I have what I want from it: a roof over my head and an amazing spouse and kids for whom I would kill or die. 

So, anyone starts talking to me about how privileged I am just falls off my radar of intelligent, thoughtful people. I can ignore such people as not contributing to any helpful way of understanding human interactions. I find the same thing whenever someone uses the word "diversity" unironically. These days, a movie with a 99% black cast is called "diverse." It shows the level of double-think accepted by the mindless hordes. And, last time I checked, Satanists are not supposed to be members of any mindless horde. But simply buying a copy of the Satanic Bible doesn't make anyone free; doing the hard work does. 

I'm neither privileged nor oppressed. I'm free. And I'm building the only life I have right now and right here. I have friends along the way, and I don't give a good goddamn what color they are or who they fuck. 

Today's war is based entirely in a Marxist view of the world. The Marxists running the Universities and the US Goverment at the time of this writing frame things in a World War II-flavored way because WWII seems to us to be the only recent conflict with a clear "good vs. evil" demarcation. The Left then uses the identifier which is almost universally recognized as being "bad" to label everyone that they disagree with. 

Disagree with non-citizens of your nation voting to elect its leaders? You're a Nazi. Disagree with lowering standards so that certain groups do better on tests? You're a Nazi. 

Hitler has become the new, secular Satan. And being called a Nazi is now akin to being called a Witch or a Satanist in the bad old days. The West's new secular religion of Social Justice must unite its followers in the name of eradicating its enemies. Social Justice has its own Creed, it's own Profession of Faith, its own orthodoxy, its own Inquisition. 

Good people whose only crime is making a tasteless joke are losing their livelihoods and their homes over it. The American Inquisition will examine your social media in order to find proof of your heresies so that they can sentence you to Cancellation. And any future employer will be able to learn of your thought-crimes by just using Big Brother Google to look you up. 

Do you have any doubt that LaVey, and those like him, would hate everything to do with the High Church of Social Justice Orthodoxy? Every freethinking person should hate any groupthink which seeks to destroy the ability of people to make a living simply due to their thoughts and opinions. 

I came to this board to seek refuge from the madness of rioting crowds of simpletons high on Social Justice. It's frustrating to see otherwise intelligent people in my workplace and neighborhood fall for stupid slogans. ("In this house, we believe in science!") But it's absolutely maddening to see individual Satanists as well as so-called Satanic organizations lecturing me about abortion or racism or cutting the breast buds, tits, or balls off children and telling me what I should think about them. 

I tell those mouth-breathing simpletons, those slaves to approval of the slavering masses, what I told the Catholic Church: Non Serviam. 

"The World War II antagonists are not the roots of any facet of the current cultural strife in the West."

"Today's war is based entirely in a Marxist view of the world."

Fast answer: Nazi card in every situation is collective sickness. 
I can't really argue about marxism, never been interested of marxism so...

!!! "we believe in science!" that slogan I've learned to hate. Like offsprings faking wise or sumthing.

The New York Times, in particular, deserves scorn and shame for how they ignored the fact that Stalin was responsible for killing more people than Hitler ever did. And they pretend to be our moral superiors today. 

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Quote from Dark Enlightenment As opposed to a Fox News reality tunnel?

That's observation OF reality, IMO.

But please, cite examples in my previous post where I am in a reality tunnel. And it's Jeff Bezos' Washington Post, there is a minor difference. 

The fact that you think that Fox News and CNN are two poles of a spectrum is disappointing. Especially disappointing that you attribute my position (or even Donald Trump's position) to that of Fox News. You're believing the Leftist narrative of Fox News being their equivalent of the boogie man, or even Satan. 

Ooh, I used the word "Leftist," so I must be a "Right Winger"! Wrong! 

There's a very good point of view within the works of a little-known author named Anton LaVey which is called The Third Side. In my life, I apply this by investigating what is presented to us as an either/or issue - like Republican vs. Democrat or "Pro-Life" vs. "Pro-Choice" - and finding for myself my own set of beliefs. You see, I'd be willing to bet that almost no one is 100% Pro-Life or 100% Pro-Choice. I see it in the actions of those claiming to be either of those things. 

Labels fail me. It's why I'm not either a Conservative or a Liberal. Some things are worth conserving - like Western Civilization, freedom of thought, etc. And some things need to be replaced or destroyed. 

To label all (or even most) Trump supporters as racists or Nazis or anything else is an act of conditioned stupidity. Just as labeling all Bernie supporters as dope-smoking Hippie Communists. It's self-limiting and stupid. But it's easy. And it's comforting. And when you label "those other folks" stupid, racist, Nazi, ignorant, inbred, mindless cultists, you get to pin a big ol' Goodguy Badge on yourself. And you get to hug yourself and feel good for being "good." Congratulations. 

One of the things that amazed me years ago was seeing that Anton LaVey had already seen virtue signaling before anyone had every heard of "virtue signaling" and came up with his own earthy term to warn Satanists away from that stupidity. He called it the Goodguy Badge. It's a type of hypocrisy which is especially self-deceptive, and it fucking surrounds us these days. 

You want to come here and talk to me about race, you can fuck right off. I'm tuned out. Because I don't give a fuck about race. I'm here judging everyone based on their character, their intellect, their personality, and their Satanic thinking. And that's the way it should be. 

Some people say I'm white, but others say I'm not. I had a really fucked-up upbringing surrounded by white and black people deep in poverty. Some of us got out before it killed us. In my present situation, I work for black people who are literal millionaires. Good for them; they owe me nothing. I'm happy with my own life because I have what I want from it: a roof over my head and an amazing spouse and kids for whom I would kill or die. 

So, anyone starts talking to me about how privileged I am just falls off my radar of intelligent, thoughtful people. I can ignore such people as not contributing to any helpful way of understanding human interactions. I find the same thing whenever someone uses the word "diversity" unironically. These days, a movie with a 99% black cast is called "diverse." It shows the level of double-think accepted by the mindless hordes. And, last time I checked, Satanists are not supposed to be members of any mindless horde. But simply buying a copy of the Satanic Bible doesn't make anyone free; doing the hard work does. 

I'm neither privileged nor oppressed. I'm free. And I'm building the only life I have right now and right here. I have friends along the way, and I don't give a good goddamn what color they are or who they fuck. 

My apologies for assuming.

It is polarized between NPR having the highest ratings in Portland, Oregon and Rush Limbaugh dominating everywhere in Oregon not in an urban area. Same across the country. 

And fuck third ways and nuances.  Those folk aren't applicable to this conversation anyway. They are mocking the dumb Portland sheep to the same degree as the capital insurrectionists and possibly agreeing with you.  They might cherrypick views and take self-serving situational political opinions, and even be driven by this self styled ethos, but they are not the droids being sought. 

 * In fact if you want to get semantic we are all slaves to artificial cultural dictates and are naturally wired as a species to live in family groups of 150 or less.  But then agrarian society was developed so rewiring started there. But that's a different thread entirely.

But the voting electorate, the vocal Twitter contingent, those 'keeping up with the Jones, are absolutely divided between CNN and Fox News.  

And I'm willing to bet if you did Neilsen ratings for antifa and capital rioters, Fox News has minimal market share in the former, and CNN the latter. Bicameral conditioning is marketable. 

I'm also willing to divide that between urban and rural to the same statistical breakdown. You can draw a strait line how society is divided in that regard.

Hitler has become the new, secular Satan. And being called a Nazi is now akin to being called a Witch or a Satanist in the bad old days. The West's new secular religion of Social Justice must unite its followers in the name of eradicating its enemies. Social Justice has its own Creed, it's own Profession of Faith, its own orthodoxy, its own Inquisition. 

What happened to the third way? 

That's only half of western society, right? The broad generalized NPR demographic thinks that. The Fox News demographic is much more like to tolerate that view.  But in Portland, Oregon (or another metro area) Hitler is a hell of a lot more of a Satan than Hicksville, Appalachia.  

The boogieman qualities of Hitler is proportional to how blue your region is. And there are absolutely still counties on this map where I would fit right in wearing Nazi regalia. 

But yes, where liberal progressive culture is concerned, Hitler is a new Satan, so lets all embrace a limp dick faggot to be transgressive of nomian taboo because liberals are changing things in rural culture. 

Doesn't the Satanic Temple do shit like that too? They raffle off abortions in the bible belt.  That's at the opposite side of the transgression spectrum from dressing like Hitler in Portland.  

Good people whose only crime is making a tasteless joke are losing their livelihoods and their homes over it. The American Inquisition will examine your social media in order to find proof of your heresies so that they can sentence you to Cancellation. And any future employer will be able to learn of your thought-crimes by just using Big Brother Google to look you up. 

Yup, it is a blacklist. "Neo-McCarthyiesm". But unlike the communism blacklist I think it's more lawyers and people concerned with discrimination/hostile work environment lawsuits than anything else. Sorta like how mix raced relationships could ruin your life in the days when Lucile Ball had to try to hide she was fucking a Puerto Rican. 

Even today there is this quite powerful WWII born collective unconscious stimulus directing the motivations of the majority. It profoundly effects the unconscious part of the psyche of the Individual. In this case, the reason is poorly and falsibly processed traumatic event in the psychohistory of homo"-sapiens" of the west, that affects the world-view, objectivity, and hence the choice making of an average 2-legged today. An obvious tell is the horror movie face when trying to discuss about the relevant events, not mentioning soc.. med... Hopefully for the next generations, that is just another taboo to break.

Your very popular marxist version targets conscious level only, and is under the effect of my aforementioned idea.

For example, changing the founding myth of the US from 1776 to 1619 - from the dream of Liberty to the trauma of slavery. And the Jewish founding myth abruptly changing from the alleged revelation at Sinai to the brutality of Auschwitz. 

Trauma-based mind control is not a new idea and seems to be implemented in many instances, and people today are lapping up the idea of their "true" origins being based in victimhood rather than idealism. 

Why does Germany escape having Nazism called a massive victim card here? One less founded than others. If it's all a fucking puppet theater of ideas anyway shouldn't every instance of a dumbshit idea used to galvanize a population be included? 

I think you have to argue for the truth in Nazi propaganda to have a counterpoint there. 

Instead, you seem to allude to certain things and then drop them, and make your posts a mish-mash of different points. It makes your posts difficult to concentrate on and it makes meaningful conversation difficult. 

For example, I have no idea what the last sentence in your above post means. (I also don't understand the first sentence in your above post.) Maybe the problem is with me, but I'm not having trouble comprehending anything else I'm reading right now.

Your posts kind of remind me of how I write when I'm high: decent vocabulary, but unclear ideas.

Victim mentalities typically cause those holding them to excuse inaction because the narrative says that the game is rigged against them. Or they use their narrative to make things bad for everyone, to destroy the system which they see as unfairly targeting them. That's what we see going on today. The victim narrative keeps people at home, in shitty relationships, with shitty jobs, watching shitty TV and doing nothing because they've convinced themselves that they're powerless. 

To call Nazism a victim card mentality just seems silly to me. And, while I don't side with the Nazis, their beef with the Jews was much more complicated than just "merchants bad." Because of Christianity's role in the founding and running of Europe, everyone's relationship with the Jews was complex, and the Jews were willing to compromise their own morals in order to survive (so am I when it comes right down to it), resulting in even more anger against them. It's an incredibly long and complex relationship with oversimplifications on all sides. 

Jews, however, and despite rising today to amazing heights of financial and economic power, continue to use the victim card to secure massive cash inflows and powers of censorship. Other groups, like BLM and Muslim groups are just taking a page from the Jewish book these days. 

DE, I have no idea how you can call Hitler's movement a victim mentality. They used post-World War I sanctions (which were meant to demoralize and destroy Germany) as a rallying cry by which they were able to rebuild a massive economic, cultural, and military power. That's about as far from a victim mentality as a group can get. 

Unless you actually argue the Jews really are trying to take over the world, and firmly place yourself within the left/right spectrum (not dissimilar from any O9A meme monkey), I can't see the entire Nazi movement as anything but a massive victim card to blame the same old oppressor/scapegoat*.  Once again, unless you argue some Boogiemen are valid monsters under the bed, like The Jews. 

Jews, however, and despite rising today to amazing heights of financial and economic power, continue to use the victim card to secure massive cash inflows and powers of censorship. Other groups, like BLM and Muslim groups are just taking a page from the Jewish book these days. 

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* My opinion on why the Jews are more successful. 

They are the longest surviving western people.  They came about concurrent to the Canaanite reboot Phoenicia and withstood the brunt of... wait for it... "several thousand years of exile and persecution". This may be genetic memory for them. The instinctual drive to excel financially and look out for #1.  They are essentially predisposed to climb higher in the social strata for security reasons. 

As far as Israel goes (as opposed to Jews), it doesn't exist without the support of the West. The popularity Trump gained by moving The US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem can attest to it's Jewish/worldly importance. The holiest city (still) is of ABSOLUTE strategic importance to keep in Secular Western control for religious reasons, take from that what you will. 

And no one will fuck with them because they have EVERYTHING the US has in their defense arsenal. And Northrup-Gruman, Raytheon, and Lockheed couldn't be happier to keep it that way.  

Apart from that Israel has an influence much like The Celtic Tiger on the irreligious/non-military world stage. * Unless you go full on into that right of center spectrum entrenched conspiracy position about "jewification" through the media and a clandestine Hasidic boogieman agenda.

Israel's richest citizen is a Russian national more concerned with qualifying for The Champions League anyway. Oh, have you seen a gunners wife?  

So if Hitler is a secular Satan, or demonized for antagonizing progressive agendas, one HAS to include the Jews there for antagonizing nationalism. They may be the ultimate and longest lasting social boogieman as well. But they both occupy two poles of the same spectrum. 

There is some humor in a legitimate Nazi Trump supporter for that reason. I asked the one I talked to how they rectify Trump's outspoken Zionism, "It's a mutual interest to Christian White America, and doesn't necessarily have to do with support of Israel" (Sic). 

 And because I do write a lot and have tendency to drift, here is my summed up argument:

 And both must yield to what is most likely to get you sued, which unfortunately/fortunately for all the outspoken in that former camp (depending on position), is now carrying thought-police ramifications.  Racist actions including speech (or those that can get construed as racist) can now fuck your life over as much as a 1950's interracial marriage would. Both using cultural shunning/stigma assimilation to do so. 

I think the confusion here is caused by the semantics; victim mentality vs playing the victim card. The latter is a strategy with the aim to achieve a specific goal. It doesn't have to mean inaction or avoidance although the passive agressive attitude and  feigning apathy can be strategic too. That Nazi Germany played a victim card is indisputable.

It doesn't concern only the Jews. It's enough to recall the event that started the war. That was the false flag Himmler operation that served as a justification for the invasion of Poland. Then there comes the treaty of Versailles called a "betrayal", "disgrace", "shame." It caused sour feelings of perceived injustice and humiliation even before Hitler rose to power:

And hell, the very first pages of Mein Kampf concern the harsh life of the author, his suffering in Vienna,  blamed of course on the usual suspects. 

Well the Jews made his family poor, Anna. They were victims of oppression.  

IMO Hitler was a working class small town fruit that was pretty much right out of Rent 70 years before AIDS. The original Bohemian Rhapsody.  Like any other faggot he took a little money (inheritance) and moved to an arts district in one of the largest cities around to be with boyfriend ("childhood friend") and pursue an artist lifestyle sharing a single room. Despite it being called shit, and failing to get him admission to art school twice prior to moving to Munich, his art wasn't that bad. His impressionist paintings look like all others and made him a little cash selling it on the street. 

And like many failed SOHO artists years later, he lost everything and ended up on the street in men's shelter and hostiles. Many gay rural kids turned starving city artist share his unfortuneate story until the beer hall. 

Then he wrote a book in jail and used it to rise to power. The rest is History Channel (before Ancient Aliens).

* But then there are also those somewhat hazy illegitimacy rumors about his semitic bloodlines.

If true he could have literally been a 1/4 Jewish homosexual. 

Worth noting is a common "right of center" response here is to cite all of the above as propaganda to serve in the world domination purposes of the Jews. 

Don't forget about his "heroic" participation in the first world war. He even became wounded. Doesn't that make him a hero? If it hadn't been for the sabotage done by the Jews and Marxists, Germany would have won.

Scapegoating offers easy explanations and solutions to the complex problems that are too difficult to grasp by average simpletons. Hitler could be a loser and a faggot but he knew the rules of the game. Contrary to the damned intellectuals, he didn't underestimate the power of human stupidity. Instead, he used it as clay to be molded. In that respect, he was a visionary. He managed to enchant the primitive masses with his propaganda. Since he believed in his own bullshit, he was all the more convincing.

The lesson here is: Never underestimate the power of Bullshit. It appeals to the stupid and lets them shape history. I'm really intrigued by this peculiar love affair between "evil" and human stupidity. Whenever some violent breakthrough happens, stupidity precedes the turmoil and chaos. It's as if that circus on wheels called the world needed the clowns to move it forward. Perhaps, this is why the evolution has spared the stupidity and let it thrive; it helps to topple down the tower of the old order and bring in the new order. Not that the stupid and their leaders will live to see it. They usually get sacrificed in the process. 

Quote from Devil Warship Dark Enlightenment, you don't write poorly but you also don't make your points very clearly.

Nah, he's one of a kind, although unless I'm mistaken I believe he is much of the time - whatever works. Of course it can't be argued what 'anything' reminds 'anyone' of, just sayin'.

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