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You know it's not literally turning lead into gold, but a psychological process of internal transmutation a person interested in psychology, especially occult esoteric psychology should be all about.

Did you know C.G. Jung wrote a book called Psychology and Alchemy? 

You said you liked Jung's archetypes. 

From the Wikipedia overview: 

Alchemy is central to Jung's hypothesis of the collective unconscious. This book begins with an outline of the process and aims of psychotherapy as seen by Jung. 

And even if you don't care, an occult esoteric versed person, especially one into archetypal intellectual decompression, should immediately recognize it as pertaining to alchemy. 

That's too bad. Any help is handy if you want to save face. Contrary to what some people think, acting like a pretentious cunt can actually push you forward and force you to learn more. Like I learned how to translate from Greek at the time I kept pontificating about the ONA. Normally, learning a language takes years of study but if one's ego is threatened, a couple of days will be enough to learn fucking Chinese. 

 You know what? I'm with Anna, have you even read Jung? 

And if you don't like being pushed on this topic, you should not have said you use real esoterics in your intellectual decompression black hole rituals. 

There is difference between the satanic rituals and then my own personal rituals. I only relate to the ritual practice of Satanism in this thread. If I came to a ceremony then I would follow the structures of TSB if I was high priest. Satanic ceremony is to me a way to make Satanists cooperate as a tribe. There is no reason to modify the satanic rituals in the contest of group ceremony.

Come to think of it, I'm more familiar with this "intellectual decompression" than I first realized because it's the terminology that throws me off.

I believe this is one the main reasons to incorporate entheogens(natural or synthetic) into ritual - as a form of "intellectual decompression", although I usually just refer this to the various modes, or altered states of consciousness.

I don't bother with IDC as it relates to ritual much any longer; when I'm here that is used for writing and music, primarily, because it works for that too. Much of the time the 'writing' does extend into the arena where ID would be and is of benefit.

I can get a little lost with unfamiliar terminology, and with some of the stuff Anna wrote had me wondering if 'I' was in fact even a Satanist; I suppose so, even if only barely.

Please walk me through how you approach the LHP and why a blackhouse could help you.

 You said you incorporate actual esoterics into your ritual, and my mind made the assumption you were talking archetypes and Alchemy, as you always bring up ritual chambers.  Perhaps transmutation of shadow archetypes and tendencies across that unconscious bridge and into the persona, which is what I always thought The Laveyan ritual was based off of, and the reference to Jung was about.  Like all the sex ones for lust or whatever. I mean it's psychodrama, right?  The "magical" power of the collective unconcsious. 

My mistake to assume.  You are totally self-styled. 

Please walk me through YOUR use of esoteric and YOUR LHP ritual.  You have focused on ritual as central to practicing LHP, and regardless of the nature of that, I would still like to know for my clarification what you consider "esoteric" and "LHP". 

If you actually read the chapter about the intellectual decompression chamber, you keep obsessing about, you would know that it's clearly stated there that the ritual participants KNOW (it's even capitalized) that the spiritual is an illusion. Knowing not doubting. You see what you want to see.

So you get your knowledge of esoterics from LeRoy's videos. Cool. Did you bother to read the essays on his website or is this too academic level for you too? The Sect is atheistic, just like the CoS. And this is for sure, although if you paid LeRoy enough cash, then maybe he would change his mind. Till then, it's not that "we can't know anything." The declaration of their atheism couldn't be more clear. Or call it rational occultism. No place for deities there. Or even doubt they can exist. 

Quote from AnnaDid you bother to read the essays on his website or is this too academic level for you too? 

Quote from AnnaThe Sect is atheistic, just like the CoS. And this is for sure, although if you paid LeRoy enough cash, then maybe he would change his mind. Till then, it's not that "we can't know anything." The declaration of their atheism couldn't be more clear. Or call it rational occultism. No place for deities there. Or even doubt they can exist. 

I do not get knowledge about the esoteric from LeRoy's videos. That comes from book reading. What I get from him is an Jungian interpretation of the esoteric. I doubt his model is correct but he is interesting to listen to.

Well, shit, I swear you were talking about LaVey's intellectual decompression chamber. You even claimed people here haven't read TSB. Are you back-paddling now?

And no, this is not an alternative to atheism/theism. If gods and demons exist as archetypes in the collective unconscious, then they don't exist as real entities. This still falls under the branch of atheism. This is as if I said that Jesus for me is merely an archetype in my unconscious. That would mean I don't believe he really exists as an entity and that would make me an atheist and not a Christian or even a "doubter."

And, of course, you don't have to read anything. Just stop calling people pretenders because it's really infuriating, especially when such an accusation comes from an illiterate idiot. Some TST members participated in this forum and they appeared to be like sages when compared to you. 

Also the fact that you keep calling me a "moron" and now an "illiterate idiot" just because I do not focus on studying the same stuff like you do is to me an attempt to provoke me. Why these names? You don't know me. You only destroys it for yourself...