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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Aborior Translatione he's MGTOW, thinks he is superior for fucking a blow-up doll. 

Men who do not go MGTOW here in 2021 are 
morons...
See? Earned treatment. 


This is an organically occurring gang rape. One asked for by the idiocy/actions of the individual.  

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Singende Säge
Singende Säge Apr 9 '21
OKOK, I'm fine with this lmao.
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from Singende Säge OKOK, I'm fine with this lmao.

A bully always seeks justification for being a bully...
MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Apr 9 '21

Thanks kindly for your post Tom Riddle. I think you have to keep in mind that very few people, who describe themselves as Satanists, can ever agree on anything.

 

If you are interested in black houses then you may have to create them yourself or else start an organization through which you can create these black houses. I don’t think there is one central institution which can create and maintain such places. I certainly don’t think the Church of Satan is interested or even necessarily the “central institution” in contemporary Satanism.

 

In my view, there are two different types of “Satanism:” on the one hand there is this thing which has obtained a certain amount of public exposure and has a canonical history and a set of personalities, etc. It has a history and can be critiqued, torn down, built up, fought over and laughed at. On the other hand there is the cold rational self-awareness and practices of individuals who are using their smarts and the tools at their disposal to influence and control situations and other people for their own ends. I don’t think these individuals necessarily care what happens to this public spectacle called “Satanism.” In fact it may even be to their advantage that “Satanism” is constantly regarded as a joke.

 

Social media, TST or Gilmore or anyone else who is perceived as a problem in the context of the existence or viability of this public spectacle don’t really matter to those individuals who are using the philosophy and theology as the toolset it is. Satanism as a public spectacle just really doesn’t matter
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from MatthewJ1

Thanks kindly for your post Tom Riddle. I think you have to keep in mind that very few people, who describe themselves as Satanists, can ever agree on anything.

 

If you are interested in black houses then you may have to create them yourself or else start an organization through which you can create these black houses. I don’t think there is one central institution which can create and maintain such places. I certainly don’t think the Church of Satan is interested or even necessarily the “central institution” in contemporary Satanism.

 

In my view, there are two different types of “Satanism:” on the one hand there is this thing which has obtained a certain amount of public exposure and has a canonical history and a set of personalities, etc. It has a history and can be critiqued, torn down, built up, fought over and laughed at. On the other hand there is the cold rational self-awareness and practices of individuals who are using their smarts and the tools at their disposal to influence and control situations and other people for their own ends. I don’t think these individuals necessarily care what happens to this public spectacle called “Satanism.” In fact it may even be to their advantage that “Satanism” is constantly regarded as a joke.

 

Social media, TST or Gilmore or anyone else who is perceived as a problem in the context of the existence or viability of this public spectacle don’t really matter to those individuals who are using the philosophy and theology as the toolset it is. Satanism as a public spectacle just really doesn’t matter

I was thinking about creating a black house if I managed to get a lot of energy. Personally, I consider celebration of the satanic holidays as pointless doing it alone. The point with holidays is to give dates so like minded can gather. 


Yes I agree that Satanists rarely can agree on anything but it's also why the intellectual decompression chamber is need by the doubter or skeptic. 

If I came to a satanic ceremony in the ritual chamber I would not even think about other participants as people I would agree or disagreement because the focus would be on Satan or what to be done. As LaVey explains it. There is no self-awareness in the ritual chamber. It's like the chapter Intellectual Decompression Chamber in Book of Belial has been completely overlooked.

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Aborior Translatione
See! The Church of Satan style Satanist will look at this thread and come in and not regard our flaming of you, Frater.  You might do better there as opposed to a site with several prolific O9A sock trolls. 


And you know what, fuck this thread. We are one out away from the first no-hitter in our history...


So carry on. Good luck.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione See! The Church of Satan style Satanist will look at this thread and come in and not regard our flaming of you, Frater.  

So will every Satanist.
Singende Säge
Singende Säge Apr 9 '21
Well I cannot think about bigger (or any) organization to perform for me. I wish I could, but it is not likely.


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Aborior Translatione

@The Little Engine That Could


Well, the ones you regard as Satanists.  And it's your condescending personality that engages me. We could be arguing about evolution and if you had the same assuming condescending approach and arrogance about you I would approach you no differently. 


That lack of self-awareness.


You tell people to read TSB like you can educate Anna. Like you are some guru who is has the superior argument. 


But most importantly, the inability to EVER admit you were wrong. One of those auto-hate commands. 

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MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Apr 9 '21

Yeah cool – if celebrating the satanic holidays with like minded people in black houses is important to you, then I definitely encourage you to make that happen. Do what gives you pleasure or leads to pleasure.  

 

I do appreciate Anton LaVey’s views about ritual magic. I think he had some good ideas in that area. I think a number of his thoughts had an influence on the fashioning of my own worldview and the place of ritual magic in it.

 

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione

Well, the ones you regard as Satanists.  



Those who actually are Satanists. Being a Satanist is a trait or characteristic. That's why we traditionally states that Satanists are born and not made. The satanic religion is only meant to create and maintain the barrier between the Satanists and those who are not.

Aborior Translatione
What is that trait. FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TOO ME..


How does that trait manifest in a given day to day situation and when does the fire of autonomy take hold and lex talionis takes over. 


Since you like MGTOW, Where is that in the idea? What is it about chauvinism that could qualify as transgressive to normative morality? And there is an apllicability if you know where to look...


I just can't make the connection, make it for me. 


Educate ME.

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Singende Säge
Singende Säge Apr 9 '21
" I wish I could"


I do not wish, it was meant differently, like a dream or stain given by normative to have fun with while knowing its not gonna ever happen.

I do not like forums, much less open ones. We might, or probably might not talk superficialities here later.  

For me the term satanist is equal with individualism, what matters is the devotion to inborn desires.


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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Singende Säge " I wish I could"



I do not wish, it was meant differently, like a dream or stain given by normative to have fun with while knowing its not gonna ever happen.

I do not like forums, much less open ones. We might, or probably might not talk superficialities here later.  

For me the term satanist is equal with individualism, what matters is the devotion to inborn desires.


Shit.


I think it's the Golden Statue of The Self. In every blasphemy that entails. 


This kid dismisses luciferians but I like archetype of Lucifer. Nails it perfectly for me. Or Prometheus before him. Or any other personal ethic driven individual willing to be cast down for their integrity. In its most extreme manifestation anyway. Mostly it's just laughing at the news. Or occassionally using the news to go fishing. 


But that's just me and for me it's a path rooted in the autonomous actions of the individual. An allergic reaction to attaboys, if you will. 


What is it socially that causes that fire to burn is all I'm after here.


Could be the same reason people not fed up with kid took one look at the thread and responded how they did. 

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Singende Säge
Singende Säge Apr 9 '21
Hmm. I read TSB much, much later than you think. But been adversial the earlier part of importance naturally. Its not an open forum business. You might ask in private.
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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione What is that trait. FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TOO ME..


How does that trait manifest in a given day to day situation and when does the fire of autonomy take hold and lex talionis takes over. 


Since you like MGTOW, Where is that in the idea? What is it about chauvinism that could qualify as transgressive to normative morality? And there is an apllicability if you know where to look...


I just can't make the connection, make it for me. 


Educate ME.


I don't like MGTOW. I just walk away from women and encourage all men to do the same.


Satanic traits are the traits of Satan. Individuals who falls into that are eccentric critical thinkers with passion for the carnal. 

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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Aborior Translatione What is that trait. FUCKING EXPLAIN IT TOO ME..


How does that trait manifest in a given day to day situation and when does the fire of autonomy take hold and lex talionis takes over. 


Since you like MGTOW, Where is that in the idea? What is it about chauvinism that could qualify as transgressive to normative morality? And there is an apllicability if you know where to look...


I just can't make the connection, make it for me. 


Educate ME.


I don't like MGTOW. I just walk away from women and encourage all men to do the same.


Satanic traits are the traits of Satan. Individuals who falls into that are eccentric critical thinkers with passion for the carnal. 


Yeah, that says nothing. 


So I'll make it real simple.


You talk about it as a personality trait, and you are absolutely correct.  But all you can say is "traits of Satan". What ARE THE TRAITS OF SATAN? That's like saying Cannibalistic is the condition of being a cannibal.


Think about the things that make the Satanist.


Can't agree with each other 

Repulsed by conformity reward

Problems with slave morality 

Skeptical

Known to respond in kind 


Now, where statements like "Any man who doesn't go MGTOW in 2021 is a moron" is concerned how do you satanically apply that to an increasingly progressive society?


What is it that societies and people do that makes a person say, "You know what I'm going to back this guy getting flamed." 


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 9 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione 

Can't agree with each other 

Repulsed by conformity reward

Problems with slave morality 

Skeptical

Known to respond in kind 


Eccentric critical thinkers with passion for the carnal can basically disagree on anything and their trait can manifest differently. 


Quote from Aborior Translatione 

Now, where statements like "Any man who doesn't go MGTOW in 2021 is a moron" is concerned how do you satanically apply that to an increasingly progressive society. 



I don't want to discuss MGTOW here.
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Singende Säge
Singende Säge Apr 9 '21
Yeah while toutin my privacy, I want to explicitly add that:
1. Atheism is fallacy of reason - Can't deny what can't be proved -> agnosticism

2. I'm not following the rational lineage. -> gut feeling rather than thinking too much

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Aborior Translatione
Okay. I'd rather talk about this. I like this debate. And I'm thinking this one wont be reduced to petty name calling by myself. 
Quote from Singende Säge Yeah while toutin my privacy, I want to explicitly add that:
1. Atheism is fallacy of reason - Can't deny what can't be proved -> agnosticism

2. I'm not following the rational lineage. -> gut feeling rather than thinking too much

The God Paradox. 


Honestly you can't draw the universal observation before the electromagnetic spectrum existed. You are left with a "Well what caused this mass release of energy out of seemingly nothing.


But what you can say is god is a more complex answer. 


And here's why. There is an extra step.


If god created the universe, what created god, and if god always existed, why can't we say that for the universe. 


Logically a creator has an extra step to explain away. 


Even if you expand to a multiverse, a membrane and bulk, or vacuum field it's still the thing are universal bubble expanded from. The parent universe. 


If not a spontaneous energy release from nothing, there will always be something that needs to have always existed. With the "there is no god" position you no longer need to explain the creation of god itself. 


There is ALWAYS an extra logical step that is ultimately extraneous with creationism. 





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