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Anna
Anna May 12 '21
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Fuck it, I need some ONA dope since there is nothing else to trip on. Can't count on watching any new soap operas either.


I've seen this brought by the courtesy of the coven from the Philippines, a gem written by Stephen Brown aka Anton Long aka maybe yes or, maybe not, David Myatt. I found it interesting because I haven't seen it before. Charmingly titled "The Song of a Satanist" it elaborates on what real true Satanism is as opposed to fake Satanism. While I agree with the parts about living life with passion, defiance, striving to overcome your weaknesses and achieve more in life and moving beyond your comfort zone, the self-congratulatory attitude and bashing strangers you can't know spoils it all. Like this:


It amuses me – and has amused me – when I come in contact with modern, self-professed “Satanists”, be such people a part of some “Temple” or “Church” or “cult”, or be they working on their own. With a few notable exceptions, these people are ridiculous – for them, Satanism is an intellectual philosophy, a collection of rituals, and/or an anarchic attitude. For them, it is an object of study, and involves meetings, discussions. For them, it is communal, and involves “ethics” and/or a religious approach and attitude. For them, it is a glorification of their ego and a wallowing in the pleasures and wealth this existence can offer: an excuse for self-indulgence and lack of self-discipline.


Imitation Satanists make excuses – and devise theories to explain their lack of Satanic deeds in the real world. They have seldom if ever changed themselves to something greater than what they were at Initiation, and they most certainly have not changed the world in any way, significant or insignificant. They have achieved no glory – discovered nothing new; not extended the frontiers of understanding by even one micron. Instead, they wallow in obscure doctrines and consume the drug of self-delusion. To be brief, they have not composed a Satanic song which illustrates their life. They labour, but in vain – Poeta nascitur, non fit.


And this is all from a person (persons) who authored thousands of pages about Satanism. Is discussing Satanism an unhealthy habit of posers and pseudo-intellectuals? Does it make a difference if you give vent to your loquacity on WordPress or behind an old-fashioned typewriter?


And now, completely seriously, this drive to change the fucking stupid world eludes me. Just what does it have to do with Satanism? I can understand defiance for the individual selfish aims, still I wonder why it is regarded as more genuinely Satanic than just egoistic self-indulgence. For me, it looks like portraying the Devil as a damn idealist. I realize it's an attempt at marketing but do all the disputes about the essence of Satanism boil down to Walmart promotion tricks?

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn May 12 '21
I don't want to appear selfish or uncaring, but I just feel life is too short to worry about too much.
Singende Säge
Singende Säge May 13 '21

Ism's and other such frameworks are a bastardization of "undefiled wisdom". Still, sometimes they are not useless. External frameworks should be temporary tools, if necessary, to gain certain level of psychic independence on which to build the individuation process. Frameworks are beneficial to the extent they help the individual to detach from the collective and turn focus on the inner realm and to maintain that relationship to the individual Self. Isms themselves are not goals worth to pursue after that. On the other side of the road i heard about a debate: Who is teh trvv satanist.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
I can't take anyone seriously tied to ONA. ONA is a nazi fascist criminal cult that was founded by a person who later converted to Islam. 

They are truly pseudo-Satanic. Satanists can identify themselves with Satan because they are their own gods. If you are your own god then there is no cause above yourself.

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Anna
Anna May 13 '21

Quote from Singende Säge

Ism's and other such frameworks are a bastardization of "undefiled wisdom". Still, sometimes they are not useless. External frameworks should be temporary tools, if necessary, to gain certain level of psychic independence on which to build the individuation process. Frameworks are beneficial to the extent they help the individual to detach from the collective and turn focus on the inner realm and to maintain that relationship to the individual Self. Isms themselves are not goals worth to pursue after that. On the other side of the road i heard about a debate: Who is teh trvv satanist.


Exactly this. Satanism or even embracing Islam or racism as methods of subversion are only the exoteric forms. But apart from that, discussions, meetings and rituals are all an uninitiated bystander can see. Behind that, there are the lives of individual people you're not privy to unless you know them personally. And even then you only know what they choose to reveal to you. This is why all this talk about posers and fakers is fallacious. I mean I can accuse everyone of posturing because all I can see are the words on the screen. Unless, of course, we are willing to accept someone's bragging or even a personal diary as a proof of their Satanic life.



Quote from Tom Riddle I can't take anyone seriously tied to ONA. ONA is a nazi fascist criminal cult that was founded by a person who later converted to Islam. 

They are truly pseudo-Satanic. 


You know what you're talking about... as usual.

Sieg Heil!

Fuck juice!

Feed faggots to white bears!


P.S. Black lives do not matter.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Anna 
You know what you're talking about... as usual.

Always. I hope you also know what ONA stands for...



Quote from Anna 
You know what you're talking about... as usual.

Sieg Heil!

Fuck juice!

Feed faggots to white bears!


P.S. Black lives do not matter.


Political fare right have a thing in common with political fare left and it's collectivism. If you are your own god you are not drawn to these because to them their cause is above themselves. Racists are a mob like TST.




Anna
Anna May 13 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
Always. I hope you also know what ONA stands for...

Actually, I have no idea. I would be grateful if you explained it to me. I read somewhere they eat children. Is this true? Who the fuck are those pseudo-Satanists?

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Anna 

Actually, I have no idea. I would be grateful if you explained it to me. I read somewhere they eat children. Is this true? Who the fuck are those pseudo-Satanists?


Order of Nine Angles (ONA) is a British pagan devil worship cult that promote human sacrifices in at least symbolic sense (if they are hindered to do it physically) to take the life force of the victims (making them come closer to become as the gods) and their targets are those they consider to be the weak (so yes they can target children) and they have deemed CoS and TOS as one of them. They believe that islamists and nazists shall cooperate to destroy their common enemy
 (jews). They have formulated 21 "satanic rules" where the first one states that compassion to the weak is weakness because weakness itself is a disease. Already there a Satanist would turn away because it means that he should allow those he cares about who are weak to die.


Pseudo-Satanists are groups like TST, ONA and devil worshippers or reverse Christians. They have all thing in common that they have a cause or ideal above themselves.



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Singende Säge
Singende Säge May 13 '21
I like the paintings a lot. 
Anna
Anna May 13 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
Order of Nine Angles (ONA) is a British pagan devil worship cult that promote human sacrifices in at least symbolic sense (if they are hindered to do it physically) to take the life force of the victims (making them come closer to become as the gods) and their targets are those they consider to be the weak (so yes they can target children) and they have deemed CoS and TOS as one of them. They believe that islamists and nazists shall cooperate to destroy their common enemy (jews). They have formulated 21 "satanic rules" where the first one states that compassion to the weak is weakness because weakness itself is a disease. Already there a Satanist would turn away because it means that he should allow those he cares about who are weak to die.

This is outrageous. I thought they cared for their kindred but it turns out they would kill even their old mom. Disgusting. Thanks for clarifying this.


I wanted to join them some time ago but I learned that the participation in a sexual orgy was obligatory for all initiates. Just imagine being fucked by total strangers. It's terribly unhealthy. Not only could I get pregnant but what about STD? Do they undergo some medical examination before the ritual? I doubt it. This is what put me off. I'm concerned about my physical safety. The membership is free but so what if you have to pay by offering sexual services? 



Quote from Singende Säge I like the paintings a lot. 

Moult's paintings? They are really cool.

Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Anna 

Actually, I have no idea. I would be grateful if you explained it to me. I read somewhere they eat children. Is this true? Who the fuck are those pseudo-Satanists?


Order of Nine Angles (ONA) is a British pagan devil worship cult that promote human sacrifices in at least symbolic sense (if they are hindered to do it physically) to take the life force of the victims (making them come closer to become as the gods) and their targets are those they consider to be the weak (so yes they can target children) and they have deemed CoS and TOS as one of them. They believe that islamists and nazists shall cooperate to destroy their common enemy
 (jews). They have formulated 21 "satanic rules" where the first one states that compassion to the weak is weakness because weakness itself is a disease. Already there a Satanist would turn away because it means that he should allow those he cares about who are weak to die.


Pseudo-Satanists are groups like TST, ONA and devil worshippers or reverse Christians. They have all thing in common that they have a cause or ideal above themselves.



Why does the person who can't pull their head out the last half of TSB discard ONA? What does all the MSS scare you off? Don't want to cull opfers or something? 



You should fucking love NAOS, it's pages and pages of intellectual decompression bullshit.  



The Sinister Pathway Triangle Order (SPTO)- Skull Press Edition © 1999 - 2008

Magister: Hagur


VISUALIZATION AND SIGIL MAGICK


Visualization as a technique is simple. In the area chosen for the ritual, adopt a comfortable position (sitting, lying or a 'meditation posture ' - the position is not important, only that it be comfortable) and in this position visualize in detail but without any emotion the sequence of events desired.


Visualization may be said to be willed 'day-dream' and to be effective requires a calm but concentrated attitude of mind. To assist in the visualization, various external triggers may be used to create the right atmosphere or mood: incense of the planet appropriate to the working should be burned (see appendix I) and candles of the planetary color used to provide the only light. Before beginning the visualization, vibrate the word appropriate to the planet (see below) three times in succession.



And check out this bit from the appendix! Stop focusing on the negative press, like a mundane, because I would love to hear your opinion of their opinion of the LHP. 




The Left Handed Path


The LHP is essentially internal magick because such magick means the use, by the individual, of the Dark Pathways that link the seven spheres of the Tree of Wyrd. There are no light pathways since the pathways by nature imply a flow of energy and such flow can only be directional. Directional energy means Change, in the causal - the emergence of Chaos through a 'gate'.


For a long time, the nature of the LHP has been misunderstood. The traditional definition as magick used for personal/destructive/negative purposes is meaningless because it assumes a framework of moral oppo sites which does not, in reality, exist in relation to magickal energies. All evolution of consciousness is a magickal act - an expansion of the acausal into the realm of the causal. From the 'traditional' moral/Nazarene point of view, all such evolution, of necessity, becomes 'evil' and partakes of the nature of a 'serpent' in accordance with a certain primative, and childish, creation myth.


It is a misfortune that for a long time this simple fact has been, in most magickal circles, obscured by silly systems like the 'Qabala' with its notions of a Dark side of the Tree. No Dark side exists, because what actually exists (the seven Gates) is dark of itself because it presences non-Being. The bifurcation of the Qabala (exemplified by systems like the 'Nightside of Eden') leads quite often to severe problems if systems deriving from it are used by individuals in the manner of internal magick - as a means of increasing consciousness.


*** FOR THE FULL ONLINE PDF OF NAOS PLEASE VISIT THIS LINK ***


Naos-A Practical Guide To Modern Magick

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Aborior TranslationeWhy does the person who can't pull their head out the last half of TSB discard ONA? 

Because they are believers and racists... 
Anna
Anna May 13 '21
But come on, they have some really cool group rituals and ceremonies that can inspire you to form your own tribe or temple. The Black Book of Satan is fun for someone who is into group magic, forming tribes, temples and socializing.
Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Aborior TranslationeWhy does the person who can't pull their head out the last half of TSB discard ONA? 

Because they are believers...
No, it's acausal dude. It's nothing like normal belief. It says there's an ethereal realm of dark unconcsious human manifestations and gods like Llysol that can be used by the "magickian" to serve "magickal" aims. That is NOTHING like normal belief, Sir....  Now, I know you don't get sarcasm, so let me just say, "That was sarcasm". 
Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Aborior TranslationeWhy does the person who can't pull their head out the last half of TSB discard ONA? 

...and racists... 
The Dark God's are like aliens from The Pleiades. They DEMAND irony when they influence a bunch of white people to do shit.  

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Anna But come on, they have some really cool group rituals and ceremonies that can inspire you to form your own tribe or temple. The Black Book of Satan is fun for someone who is into group magic, forming tribes, temples and socializing.

No reason for that cause I have TSB if I want to make a church dedicated to Satan.
Anna
Anna May 13 '21
Which makes you a poseur in their eyes. They are poseurs in your eyes. You are convinced you're right. They are convinced they are right too. Not so much difference really.
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Anna Which makes you a poseur in their eyes. They are poseurs in your eyes. You are convinced you're right. They are convinced they are right too. Not so much difference really.

It's not satanic to have a cause above yourself. 
Anna
Anna May 13 '21
Actually, if one walks the path alone, the only cause is self-development, overcoming one's weaknesses. It's only in the group setting when the mindfuck begins.
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 13 '21
Quote from Anna Actually, if one walks the path alone, the only cause is self-development, overcoming one's weaknesses. It's only in the group setting when the mindfuck begins.

Yes but cooperating in a tribe can be benefiting for the individual on his personal path. 
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn May 13 '21
Says you; the parts of the great puzzle are scattered all throughout existence, and there really is no wondrous benefit to putting them all in their proper place of which you can never really be one hundred percent certain anyway, but if the shoe fits, especially across a relevant board, it's promising.


In any event, if you do succeed in reaching the end before it reaches you then you may be left asking yourself one simple question : so what the fuck do I do now?


Answer : take a couple steps back; take a look at what you got, and use it to write more shit, what else.


And let's not forget this wonderful matrix and all IT has to offer, yeah, there is always that.


Edit : too much space at the end

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