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Anna Dec 20 '21

As much as I am not a fan of my own country, I am at least grateful that I have more freedom than living in socialist European countries like Germany, where free speech is monitored, or its "illegal to wear a swastika."

When I was a kid and my country has just shifted from communism to democracy, there was this joke people around were telling each other:

One dog says to another dog - Our new master sucks. He's no better than the previous one. He keeps us on short chains, beats us frequently and doesn't give us enough food.

Oh don't complain buddy - the other dog says - At least, he lets us bark to our heart's content.

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Lucifer Dragon Dec 20 '21

Koetting does not have much luck. He's gotten banned on many platforms. Whatever he is, he doesn't know magick. The "magick" he teaches is stupid and obviously doesn't work, for him. Proof is in the pudding as they say.

The Forum post is edited by Lucifer Dragon Dec 20 '21

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Zach Black Dec 21 '21

Oh shit he got booted from YouTube ?? That might now make me the most subscribed Satanist who makes videos about Satanism on YouTube !! :)

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Anna Dec 21 '21

Koetting can try Tiktok though they also have anti-hate speech policy. Still I think he will be safe there until one of his followers goes batshit crazy again.

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Dusche Dec 23 '21

Quote from Zakkary To me there has always been a contradiction in ONA philosophy.....? Transcend the self and become fully realised.... only to concern ones self with order of the universe....? I have no interest in the 'great order' of things, nor the prescription of a particular LHP ideology whose inventor abandoned....?

Dude, ONA doesn't want you or people like you. You can take your ass to that gay Satanic Temple.

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Zakkary Dec 26 '21

Quote from Dusche

Quote from Zakkary To me there has always been a contradiction in ONA philosophy.....? Transcend the self and become fully realised.... only to concern ones self with order of the universe....? I have no interest in the 'great order' of things, nor the prescription of a particular LHP ideology whose inventor abandoned....?

Dude, ONA doesn't want you or people like you. You can take your ass to that gay Satanic Temple.

'The ONA doesn't want you'.......? If I'm not wrong the ONA decided it did not want itself....?

I think Myatt found the most misanthropic religion in the form of fundamentalist Islam. There could be no greater bloodshed and hatred for humanity found in any other spiritual system.

The Forum post is edited by Zakkary Dec 26 '21

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Sabrina Dec 26 '21

But I once saw a video of a baby monkey getting brutally tortured which I found exhilarating. I am perturbed by their ugly monkey faces, and looking at their infants makes me want to grab them by the tail and slam them against a wall. I cant explain it, I just have an an instinct to want to hurt them. And whip or smack one as it screeches.

This was really disturbing to read. Why hurt them when they didn't even do anything to you? They're just trying to live, just let them have their peace. Not their fault that you have unresolved anger issues that your taking out on the wrong beings

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Cornelius Coburn Dec 26 '21

It reminds me of a quote I wrote maybe a couple decades ago "Since no thing defines its' own creation, it cannot be held responsible for its' nature", but in the above case, of course it works both ways. It could also be noted that there are 'choices' that may oppose ones' true nature due to societal consequences et al and reminiscent of The Matrix.

And speaking of movies the Devils' Advocate also comes to mind where the Devil goes into creational attributes and laws often being in opposition to one another.

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donot Dec 26 '21

We are not responsible for our nature, but we're definitely responsible for our choices. The matrix concept is quite bogus.

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Sabrina Dec 26 '21

Quote from Cornelius Coburn It reminds me of a quote I wrote maybe a couple decades ago "Since no thing defines its' own creation, it cannot be held responsible for its' nature", but in the above case, of course it works both ways. It could also be noted that there are 'choices' that may oppose ones' true nature due to societal consequences et al and reminiscent of The Matrix.

And speaking of movies the Devils' Advocate also comes to mind where the Devil goes into creational attributes and laws often being in opposition to one another.

I think I understand what you're trying to say, and if I misinterpret you, don't hesitate to correct me. If by nature ur implying savagery behaviour like torture killing etc, I agree that is a part of us, but we're not savage for no reason. We often have reasons for our horrible actions and those reasons may feel justifiable only to you and not others

But torturing an innocent animal that had done no wrong to you like you're not killing it with the reason for food or out of self defence, comes off anger issues that your taking out on others that had nothing to do with it and something you're responsible to solve it by yourself. Or if I'm wrong and it's not anger issues and if violent behaviour is something really really ingrained in you, then just find other healthy expressions to exercise your violent behaviour that doesn't involve killing or torturing innocent animals, I don't know, just figure it out yourself

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Cornelius Coburn Dec 26 '21

By "nature" I just mean the internal workings of the psyche and facets therein that individuals naturally gravitate towards. Nature can be good, evil, or even a mixture of the two. It can be inborn, a result of toxic nurturing, or a little of both.

The Freudian model divides the human psyche into three distinct parts : id, ego, and superego. The true nature of a person resides in the 'id'. If that person is inherently evil then the function of the 'ego' would be to filter out any desired actions so the result is acceptable amongst peers or within a structured lawful society, so then the 'superego' would be the end result that everyone sees.

Consciousness is always evolving though in most cases, so evil yesterday, but better today, and much of this is out of the hands of mortals and defined by the primordial, God, or gods, so part of the blame resides there, but yeah, there are always choices that may/may not go against the grain.

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Sabrina Dec 26 '21

Quote from Cornelius Coburn Consciousness is always evolving though in most cases, so evil yesterday, but better today, and much of this is out of the hands of mortals and defined by the primordial, God, or gods, so part of the blame resides there, but yeah, there are always choices that may/may not go against the grain.

Thankyou for the explanation but can you elaborate on what you meant by your last paragraph. I didn't understand on what you mean by "much of this is out of the hands of mortals." Sorry my English isn't the best

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Cornelius Coburn Dec 26 '21

By "out of the hands of mortals" I'm just referring to the core god given attributes of creation, but maybe it's a bit like clay in that it can be remolded and reformed into something else over time.

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Cornelius Coburn Dec 26 '21

If the spirit is all the same, hypothetically, like a force, energy, or consciousness as the primary animator then it would appear to be in the diversity of vessels that allows for these particular natures to exist, or even more precisely that it would be the unification(the union) of the spiritual with the material that manifests these specific personalities(natures) via the diversity and mechanism of specific vessels.

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donot Dec 26 '21

Attributes exist as is, beyond the mechanism that puts them in rails. One can speak about the versatility of the vessel or the rails, or the mechanism itself. Yet along to say about the energy that put it in motion.

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Sabrina Dec 26 '21

Quote from Cornelius Coburn so part of the blame resides there, but yeah, there are always choices that may/may not go against the grain.

Can you elaborate on this too? What blame? Sorry but you're really vague so I don't know what you're trying to say, or I'm this dumb at connecting information

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Sabrina Dec 26 '21

Quote from Cornelius Coburn By "nature" I just mean the internal workings of the psyche and facets therein that individuals naturally gravitate towards. Nature can be good, evil, or even a mixture of the two. It can be inborn, a result of toxic nurturing, or a little of both.

The Freudian model divides the human psyche into three distinct parts : id, ego, and superego. The true nature of a person resides in the 'id'. If that person is inherently evil then the function of the 'ego' would be to filter out any desired actions so the result is acceptable amongst peers or within a structured lawful society, so then the 'superego' would be the end result that everyone sees.

Consciousness is always evolving though in most cases, so evil yesterday, but better today, and much of this is out of the hands of mortals and defined by the primordial, God, or gods, so part of the blame resides there, but yeah, there are always choices that may/may not go against the grain.

Also how does all this connect and apply to torturing animals

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Cornelius Coburn Dec 26 '21

Maybe the ambiguity is contagious like the corona, or maybe it's just me. You can take the donkey or the trolley, it's the same price.

I explicitly blame the creator for the existence of evil, and if the creator 'creates' evil things, then within that context that IS the grain. IF the evil doer has the faculty of 'choice' then they may go against that particular 'grain' for whatever reason.

What a lot of this boils down to is that evil is created by the gods, and humans create societies where this evil is undesirable so it may be concealed but being perpetually created will never go away.

So there is a question of individuals beings born with characteristics that don't conform well with society, and the characteristics are of the gods' and some are undesirable. So you have the algorithm of creation spewing out characteristics that are to be further refined by mortal societies - tweaking Gods' work as we see fit.

Which just goes back to God and the problem of suffering, and why bad things exist. Whether it be just as simple as 'everything exists', the gamut of experience, free will, yada yada.

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donot Dec 26 '21

You are completely deranged. What's your problem?

I didn't mean you CC.

I was turned to steel in a great magnetic field.

The Forum post is edited by donot Dec 26 '21

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donot Dec 26 '21

Organizational Network Analysis?

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