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Bruce Lee's Tao of Jeet Kune Do (self study and applications)

Sun Tzu's Art of War (large group tactics)

Miyamoto Musashi The Book of Five Rings (small unit to single tactics)

These are three books I still read now and then but there are also many other books that would fit this study material that are not stated as Satanic or Left Hand Path. Books like Might Makes Right are not much good if you don't also study and apply tactics.

If a person would say that these books are just combat based I would say they have not read or understood them. Be it mental, physical or emotional, the above three books can show the basics if a person can see applications outside of the ones given.

That said, I do praise you for actually contributing to the actual thread. Though I have never heard of the Fallen Daughter nor the Black Book of Satan I do intend to look them up and as per your recommendation I will study the ONA texts.

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To add to the list I made earlyer I would recommend the works of Crowlethough only with a grain of salt as far as he suggests flesh and blood sacrifices, case in point would be his Magick in Theory and Practice. Also be good to point out to a novice that he was less of a Satanist and more in line as a Thelamite as this is what he founded.

I haven't read to much into it but I would like to know your thoughts and you would recommend to me to read up on?

Besides Bruce Lee, I agree. Strategy should be an important aspect of any Satanist who wants to move "up". Knowing how to deceive your enemies.

I personally apply it all the time.

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Bruce Lee's Tao of Jeet Kune Do (self study and applications)

Sun Tzu's Art of War (large group tactics)

Miyamoto Musashi The Book of Five Rings (small unit to single tactics)

These are three books I still read now and then but there are also many other books that would fit this study material that are not stated as Satanic or Left Hand Path. Books like Might Makes Right are not much good if you don't also study and apply tactics.

If a person would say that these books are just combat based I would say they have not read or understood them. Be it mental, physical or emotional, the above three books can show the basics if a person can see applications outside of the ones given.

Besides Bruce Lee, I agree. Strategy should be an important aspect of any Satanist who wants to move "up". Knowing how to deceive your enemies.

I personally apply it all the time.

Deception has been a military tactic for a long time, I may not know my military historian or even general history any better then any one here, but I do know that at least in todays world deception is used in the military extensively for a reason, and I am not just talking about the American military but those across the earth. I am in perfect agreement with some kind of material to be placed on a list like this. Of course I would call it a use of Lesser Magic or what those in the psychology field might term applied psychology, either way I would think that studding deception to be one of several subjects to study in the realm of not only in Satanism but at least in the over all real of the Left-hand Path.

I would like to move this discussion further, if possible. I understand that Satanism is so individualized that there probably never be a single set of suggested material, i.e. the Holy Bible for example though that would fall in the realm of required reading but let's try to avoid semantics here for the sake of conversation. What I am looking for here is this: Where does the individual each of individual source material that each individual codified into each individual paradigm? The point of this topic is an exorcise in demonstrating our diversity, a demonstration of how we don't agree on a single list of suggested reading list. I am sure that we all know, myself included, we will by the end of the day that there is not and can not be a single list of suggested reading list with the exception of maybe someone coming along and actually attempting to look at all of this in terms of what list of books are popular and what ones are not, which is a task in of itself. Also I believe that someone who is new who only knows the basics or is looking at it from an academic perspective would benefit from this as well as pilfering the library that is available to us on this site. I feel that when these types, if they have a decent head on there shoulders, would see how diverse we really are just by viewing the material that we each read and draw upon to create our own paradigm. I know that an argument can be made that the point has already been made but I want as much of a discussion on this as possible because the more we discuss this topic, the more info is available for sampling, and the more of a broader picture is available of said people to pilfer through.

The books I listed are not just for military tactics but can be applied in any setting. Part of the action that distances a person from the stereotype academic would be real world applications that moves away from the armchair or desk (experienced knowledge or told knowledge).

As for deception at the basic level, it can be as simple as keeping one's mouth shut and not advertising an action or position. To stop or even hinder something there are basics that need to be known. What it is. Where it is. Who it is. When it is.

If all of these are know then a plan of action can take place but if even one is missing then it becomes less functional. I find this a core basic well worth study in both finding others and hiding the self.

The first part of the below statement is both true and false depending on context.

Quote from FraterLuciferi There are no books that can teach you about Satanism... The satanic bible is ONLY an introduction book and nothing more. The only source to Satanic beliefs and practice is the character of Satan himself. 

If the context was “can you learn all you need from a book” ie; application then it is correct.

Then again how would a person learn what a word or symbol means without the written form. There are also the base applications and ideas that form a kind of tool kit that would take longer to learn on your own. This would be like having to reinvent the wheel before you could roll.

When I objectively check out a symbol I check it's history, it's meaning and how it has changed depending on who used it.

The basic symbols commonly used in Satanism are the downward five pointed star and that same star with a goats head in it. The downward pointing star alone <if following back on the Christian/ Jewish side> is simply the animal side of the human being and the upturned one is the intellectual side. The additive of the goat head was done by a Catholic priest who later found more profit in occultism and changed his name to Eliphas Levi. Other than taking the idea of the Baphomet head and head and placing it over the star to place extra definition on the animal side it is still the same base meaning.

If you have different meanings for the same symbol or others then that could warrant a post of it's own. I would have interest in exploring that topic if you had other meanings for these symbols.

On the other topic of Satanic Bible,,, you said “books” and I replied to the usage of the word books. Books can not teach all a person needs to know but that does not mean they can not show some value.

@Frater I think you may find some interest in checking out the histories of the symbols. Most American Christians say the inverted cross is Satanic but in other places, religions and cultures it is known as the St Peter's cross. Quick explanation of the origin of the St Peter's cross story is in the book of Peter in the Bible.

As for the “possibilities to obtain wisdom” I would say taking the knowledge from said books and applying them to life once leaving the armchair would be a better way to obtain wisdom. So books have their place but are not the be all and end all.

@Frater

I made a guess at the English being you second or more language. I don't pretend to know what Satanists in general believe till I ask them so the questions I asked and what I said was a real attempt to make conversation.

I get the idea from your last reply that you have a set belief and don't like my questions so I will leave you to it.

@Frater or anyone else that wants to reply.

Ok, fresh start and I will try this from a different angle.

Thinking outside the box is a common phrase that is used. So if the box was things listed and known as Satan based would you or have you found anything outside that box that inspired you?

I will give a couple of my examples here also.

A person; I found Bruce Lee to be more Left Hand Path orientated than most of the people with Satanic titles. Most of the Satanic title people are still justifying themselves to the Right Hand Path where as Bruce was more focused on progression and it's usefulness.

An application: The tactics of those around you can be tools in their downfall <Miyamoto Musashi – Book of Five Rings>.

A symbol: The rune Ing. Know the past as you progress to the future but focus on now and keep moving.