Are Satanists born or made? | Forum

I was going to write that it's impossible to psychoanalyze people on the basis of their writings and online posts and that piercings and tattoos are not a proof of being abused in childhood just like  someone's online activity isn't. And then I recalled that you have a knack for hacking WiFi routers and all that jazz.

Perhaps, they had personal diaries stored somewhere or the browsing history gave you a clue.

So Sherlock, I don't expect you to post such sensitive information here but maybe you could pm me? Curious cat is curious.

I think sexual child abuse creates this behaviors with transgressive looks but this does not mean all Satanists have been into child abuse. I just think that some sort of trauma have lead people into Satanism.

The common component in all manifestations of "satanisms" is discomfort with herd behavior exhibiting itself somewhere between self-immolation to trolling to sublimation.

It achieves this by deferring to self-respect. What the individual can live with themselves being part of. And that covers any occurance of Satanism. The abstract good, bad, and ugly are deferring to this personal ethos in some way. 

I believe this deferrence to self brings up the important differentiation between respect and morality.  With the former rooted in that "organizing principle" The Grand Wolfie of Satanism is talking at, and the latter attempting to convey that primal respect in written or mandated form. 

I feel you can differentiate what defers to respect and what defers to a morality mimicking respect by finding a commonality with other animal behavior. Always seems to be open territory vs claimed territory in somed way. 

Adultury is a legal and religious crime because laws were written to regulate deemed uncooperative behavior. 

Adultury is an animalistic crime because it crosses territorial and possessive lines and respect for another animal's claim. 

Stealing is a legal and religious crime because laws were written to regulate deemed uncooperative behavior. 

Stealing is an animalistic crime because it crosses territorial and possessive lines and respect for another animal's claim. 

And so on via Howard Bloom and naturally selected stratification..

And I believe that the morality is nothing else than our animalistic instincts rationalized, codified and made sacred. I suspect common sense and the need to preserve  a tribe preceded all the talk about god. If animals were on the same level as us, they would write down the laws too. Perhaps, they would make up some divinity to validate the law in the eyes of new generation. We are just better organized.

@Tom Prattle On

I'm going to bed so I will let you have the last word at least for now on.

I sometimes think that if we lived in a libertine culture where anything goes, Satanists would become ascetics.

On a deeper psychological level, I keep thinking about the goat. Why is the goat the most iconic depiction of Satan? Why not something cooler like a wolf or a leopard, or a shark or a crocodile or a cobra? Why a herd animal?

Satanism is The Herd Animal Strikes Back.

You're on exactly the right track, Aborior. Discomfort with herd behavior. Not this or that particular behavior but herd behavior in general, the very idea of it, the very fact that it occurs, that it exists. 

This is why the Superego has to go. It is nothing other than herd behavior internalized. The very idea of that is like acid burning the esophagus.

"I am one of them but I must not be one of them. I am like them but I must not be like them. I am with them but I must not be with them."

The space between me and others is the only sacred space in the universe. It is demarcated by the pentagram, and in it I find the herd animal who has ceased to be a herd animal, and in its eyes I see the glory of the one who was one of many and who is now one of one.

The one of many who is now one of one. That is the mathematics of Satanism. It is set theory.

Everything else in Satanism can be derived from the above.

Also, many Satanists seems somehow not to understand the difference between herd and tribe which is a huge error. A tribe cooperates. A herd just follows.

The Nazi contingent are mostly all aggressive, but let me just say, Fuck Nazis.

By the way, I had googled what the right word for a group of goats was, and while "herd" was one correct word, "tribe" was another, oddly enough.

I disagree, of course, but reaching that insight into where you sit with regard to this thread was pleasantly illuminating.

By the way, Aborior's "discomfort with herd behavior" is the reason it's true to say that Satanists are born not made. We're born with that discomfort. It's what starts us down the path that descends into the Pit.