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Anna
Anna May 6 '21
@TR.


The "intellectual decompression chamber" of the Satanic temple might be considered a 

training school for temporary ignorance, as are ALL religious services! The difference is that the Satanist KNOWS he is practicing a form of contrived ignorance in order to expand his will, whereas another religionist doesn't - or if he does know, he practices that form of self-deceit which forbids such recognition. His ego is already too shaky from his religious inculcation to allow himself to admit to such a thing as self-imposed ignorance


Do you understand the difference between KNOW and DOUBT? Knowing implies certainty. Doubt is NOT knowing.

Although I think your intellect is suspended permanently. For example,


"The human animal cooperates for survival and triumph." 


This is just one side of the coin. Are you going to ignore the other one, like you ignore the other part of TSB? Are you going now to rewrite Mommy Nature's Bible because you don't like half of it? 

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 6 '21
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Do you understand the difference between KNOW and DOUBT? K


Yes but they are both part of the intellect. Without my intellect I would just believe without question... Whatever the Powers of Darkness are pure fantasy or they are actual magical forces or entities is the area of ignorance. If I rationalize in the ritual chamber the magic won't work...


Quote from Anna I think your intellect is suspended permanently. For example,

You believe many things... That's why you have no need for intellectual decompression...


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This is just one side of the coin. Are you going to ignore the other one


I don't ignore anything... I'm tied of your lies about me...

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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom RiddleYou can walk the LHP without being a Satanist. The goal of the LHP is apotheosis. It's an esoteric practice that origins in hinduism. Satanism can be a wheel on the path but so can buddhism...
Don't you go start fucking up Eastern shit now.  


And honestly, this is the closest you've got on anything, and that says a lot. 


LHP does come from Hinduism and here is what Wikipedia will now say for me on this: 


Vāmācāra is a Sanskrit term meaning "left-handed attainment" and is synonymous with "Left-Hand Path" or "Left-path". It is used to describe a particular mode of worship or sadhana that is not only "heterodox" to standard Vedic injunction, but extreme in comparison to the status quo. 


So if LHP is apotheosis; it is the apotheosis of what? Attaining the highest form of what? 


What is a heterodox mode of attainment? Sure as fuck isn't suspension of disbelief in ritual practice. Or anything confined in ones home, really. Status quo says that's your right. What is LHP about more rituals and ideas unless it's used to elicit a response? 


Thats why It's actually more in line (and this is not a matter of debate) with what SHOCKS "Vedic Injunction". In Christianland Godless antagonism seems to work.  If you've ever been to US state of Georgia, that is absolutely the devil holding an abortion raffle. At least on the part of the person who came up with the idea. And if you travel to other US locales that can be a Hitler impersonator holding a eugenics seminar. Really it depends on what part of the status quo you want to act extreme in opposition too and when.


It all depends on what you do OUTSIDE THE INTELLECTUAL DECOMPRESSION CHAMBER. 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 6 '21
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So if LHP is apotheosis; it is the apotheosis of what? The highest form of what? 


To me it's about unlocking my full potential so I can walk the path to become the most powerful as possible.


Quote from Aborior Translatione Sure as fuck isn't suspension of disbelief in ritual practice.

Suspension of disbelief I see plays more the role into group ceremony. The Satanic High Mass we saw in the youtube video is an example of that. CoS should celebrate that every year on the primary 2 satanic holidays. I believe maintaining a tribe is important because it can open the doors for meat potential friends that can be benefiting on the path.


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Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Aborior Translatione 

So if LHP is apotheosis; it is the apotheosis of what? The highest form of what? 


To me it's about unlocking my full potential so I can walk the path to become the most powerful as possible.

Then you should read this, I know it's not the one half of the book you read, but try to give it a shot.


https:///...-ebook/dp/B0024CEZR6


Amoral, cunning, ruthless, and instructive, this multi-million-copy New York Times bestseller is the definitive manual for anyone interested in gaining, observing, or defending against ultimate control – from the author of The Laws of Human Nature.


Start with Law #1: 


Always make those above you feel comfortably superior.  In your desire to please or impress them, do not go too far in displaying your talents or you might accomplish the opposite – inspire fear and insecurity.  Make your masters appear more brilliant than they are and you will attain the heights of power.


You're a natural, you do that by default! I'm sure you'll determine you do it all perfectly.


And I fucking nailed you on your will to power. 


Now admit you want to be considered the best poster on this site. 


** Honestly, we all have will to power. For example I write simple classical music no one cares about. 


Full piece (ongoing)



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Anna
Anna May 6 '21

"Thats why It's actually more in line (and this is not a matter of debate) with what SHOCKS "Vedic Injunction". In Christianland Godless antagonism seems to work.  If you've ever been to US state of Georgia, that is absolutely the devil holding an abortion raffle. At least on the part of the person who came up with the idea. And if you travel to other US locales that can be a Hitler impersonator holding a eugenics seminar. Really it depends on what part of the status quo you want to act extreme in opposition too and when."


How could he do anything defying the status quo if he's afraid of doing what he wants and what is permitted by the society?
Aborior Translatione

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How could he do anything defying the status quo if he's afraid of doing what he wants and what is permitted by the society?

People will know, Anna. They just will. Because when you are in that decompression bubble you KNOW everyone else is viewing your practice and your symbolism with fear. You have Baphomet, and black candles, and even a skull. If only they saw the power they were dealing with, Anna. If only they  knew of the ritual and 'different path' they would know to fear that person.

 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
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Now admit you want to be considered the best poster on this site. 


No, I just use it as entertainment similar with my gaming. I don't feel I need to spend so much intellectual 
energy. When I ritualizes more then less I'm in forums like this. This forum itself is a place for releasing emotions. I do also like the challenge this forum can give. So thank you.
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MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 May 7 '21

Oh boy. Okay, I will try one more time.

 

Tom, you are the one who is stating that legitimate and genuine Satanism is codified or described in The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey. This is the distinct impression you gave me.

 

If this is the case then every page and every word in that book describes legitimate and genuine Satanism. The entire book must be taken into account when determining what legitimate and genuine Satanism is, and whether one is a genuine and legitimate Satanist.

 

TSB states that Satanism is an LHP philosophy/religion/praxis. I’m not stating this as my personal opinion. I have merely deduced that claim from the fact that TSB itself states that Satan is the personification of the LHP. Satanism IS LHP as a result. There is no other option and if there is then you need to cite TSB, and provide quotes from that book, which contradict that claim.

 

If you say something different than that – in regards to Satanism and the LHP – then you have to make the argument, based on a reading of TSB, since you are the one who is stating that legitimate and genuine Satanism is codified or described in The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey.

 

Whether you personally agree with Social Darwinism or not, or think that human beings achieve triumph or power in other ways besides Social Darwinism is irrelevant to the discussion. TSB contains Social Darwinist themes in abundance. Hence Social Darwinist themes are an essential part of legitimate and genuine Satanism.

 

Remember you are the one who insisted that TSB codified or described legitimate and genuine Satanism.        

 

 

 

Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Aborior Translatione 

Now admit you want to be considered the best poster on this site. 


No, I just use it as entertainment similar with my gaming. I don't feel I need to spend so much intellectual 
energy. When I ritualizes more then less I'm in forums like this. This forum itself is a place for releasing emotions. I do also like the challenge this forum can give. So thank you.
Does that include trolling?  Is this an admission you are being deliberately obstinate, missing the point, and saying the same thing ad naseum simply to purge emotions through the antagonism of the people you talk to? Are you deliberately avoiding intellectually honest discourse just to infuriate people?  Enjoying saying things that provoke people? That is actually understandable. 


Or does the releasing of emotions ACTUALLY represent your gripes with "people doing it wrong"? And the release is to correct the people that don't do it right, like you do without question. 

One a side note*


Know you should conversating that you don't make me too good for write doing now.  I feel real declining from myself posting on forum that make for best dialog persuasion anymore. Brain I feel being eating by gelatin goo creatures. Not good. 


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
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If this is the case then every page and every word in that book describes legitimate and genuine Satanism. 



No, you can disagree with LaVey and still be a Satanist, Satanism is defined as a religion centered around Satan. The reason why I accuse TST to be pseudo-satanic is NOT because they disagree with me philosophical but because their behaviors demonstrates that Satan is NOT in centrum. With word they are not religious but a satire group. 
Satan is used as a tool for their political purpose while a Satanist can't use Satan as a tool. Satan the archetype has no master. You either can identify yourself with him or not. 

This is what many CoS adherents don't understand. LaVey is not the prophet of Satanism. He was just the first Satanist to create a church dedicated to Satan which brought birth to Satanism as a religion. Remember that Satanists are born and not made, so if they are that they have always been among our specie.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione 
Does that include trolling?  Is this an admission you are being deliberately obstinate, missing the point, and saying the same thing ad naseum simply to purge emotions through the antagonism of the people you talk to? Are you deliberately avoiding intellectually honest discourse just to infuriate people?  Enjoying saying things that provoke people? That is actually understandable. 


Or does the releasing of emotions ACTUALLY represent your gripes with "people doing it wrong"? And the release is to correct the people that don't do it right, like you do without question. 

I have an emotional need to talk about Satanism. I do also to some degree enjoy the reactions from people on what I say especially those things I know it's a fact, and I do enjoy to expose people's ignorance and hypocrisy. Some times I also stand up and look at myself and say "this was actually stupid what I said here". I can sometime feel embarrassed to see what I have written with my other accounts but I see it all as a lesson that can help my personal development. When it comes to trolling I don't do that because my primary interest is to release my emotions and utilize the freedom of speech because I have a need for that. Sometimes I know what pisses people off but I choose to do it because it represents to me the defiance of anti-freedom of speech people. 
On some facebook groups I should just state the fact that Satanism was a religion and it then could pisses some bitches off revealing on the same time they were not Satanists or still was tied to Christianity (some women don't like the term "religion" because they associate with Christianity). I found this to be entertainment. 
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Aborior Translatione
Okay, are you sure you're not a masochist? 


Because that could explain it too.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Are you sure you're not a masochist? 

Yes because I do not enjoy when bitches calls me "moron" or slander me with "his stupidity is beyond limit". I can feel provoked by that because it's not truth and my sense of justice is very high. However sense of justice is an emotional thing because rationally I have no reason to care...
Anna
Anna May 7 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from MatthewJ1

If this is the case then every page and every word in that book describes legitimate and genuine Satanism. 



No, you can disagree with LaVey and still be a Satanist, Satanism is defined as a religion centered around Satan. The reason why I accuse TST to be pseudo-satanic is NOT because they disagree with me philosophical but because their behaviors demonstrates that Satan is NOT in centrum. With word they are not religious but a satire group. 
Satan is used as a tool for their political purpose while a Satanist can't use Satan as a tool. Satan the archetype has no master. You either can identify yourself with him or not. 

This is what many CoS adherents don't understand. LaVey is not the prophet of Satanism. He was just the first Satanist to create a church dedicated to Satan which brought birth to Satanism as a religion. Remember that Satanists are born and not made, so if they are that they have always been among our specie.


In another thread you were constantly accusing people of not having read TSB. You talk about the chapter about IDC as if it was a gospel. Your constant backpedalling is truly pathetic.


You consider your twisted notion of what Satanism is to be a fact and constantly call the people who disagree with you ignorant or pretenders while, at the same time, you claim you don't do it. 


If Satanism is about self deification, then why the hell can't someone use the archetype as a tool to achieve one's goals? If you consider yourself as a god, then naturally you don't consider an archetype to be above you. All gods and archetypes are then man-made. Still you insist to the contrary. Why? Because you're a theist. A fanatical and hypocritical one. This is why you feel the need to revere and worship Satan. This explains your obsession with magic and rituals and also your fanaticism. You're the same guy who years ago claimed that Satanism was all about the worship of demons and dark deities. Although, all of your posts were deleted, I remember your pontifications from back then. Although you now parade as a "doubter", your theism shines through your posts, hence your fanatical obsession with IDC. Because you feel the need to practice and justify your theism.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
Quote from Anna This explains your obsession with magic and rituals

Atheists can believe in magic and ritual...


Quote from Anna You're the same guy who years ago claimed that Satanism was all about the worship of demons and dark deities. Although, all of your posts were deleted,

No, but I did stated that Satanism was about the worship of Satan but I also stated that the worship of Satan does not requires a belief in a literal Satan. If you worship Satan then you worship yourself because Satan is your ego externalized. 

Anna
Anna May 7 '21
Once again, why can't the archetype be used as a tool to achieve one's goals, political or otherwise? Answer the question.
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
Quote from Annawhy can't the archetype be used as a tool to achieve one's goals, political or otherwise? Answer the question.

Because it has no power. All what TST has done is to make the term "Satanism" unless and Satanism is no longer feared nor respected. It's now associated with the clown world.
Anna
Anna May 7 '21
Let's not make it all about TST again.


You claimed: "A Satanist can't use Satan as a tool. Satan the archetype has no master."

Then you stated: "Satan is your ego externalized."


So I'm asking you again. If Satan is just my ego externalized and not some literal deity and I'm my own god, why can't I use Satan as a tool to gain my aim? Why can't I use it during an abortion rally if I want to? Or for any other purpose if this is my wish? Is this a sacrilege for you?

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle May 7 '21
Quote from Anna Let's not make it all about TST again.


You claimed: "A Satanist can't use Satan as a tool. Satan the archetype has no master."

Then you stated: "Satan is your ego externalized."


So I'm asking you again. If Satan is just my ego externalized and not some literal deity and I'm my own god, why can't I use Satan as a tool to gain my aim? Why can't I use it during an abortion rally if I want to? Or for any other purpose if this is my wish? Is this a sacrilege for you?


Because Satan brings you nothing outside the ritual chamber. He is only your ego externalized in the ritual chamber.
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