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As far as the O9A goes, sorry to hear about the harassment.  As far as my limited research into the organization went, the doctrine was codified by a single man.  Others who fell into his line of thought tried to make it an actual organization by just pretending it was an organization.  I could be wrong, but that's the wall I ran into.  The most viable evidence I've come across for O9A's existence outside of internet yipyap was a 5 minute [laughable] VICE Documentary on YouTube.

Quote from JasinElric If she felt legitimately threatened, and in an act of self-preservation took down the video, I don't see how that's cowardice. Simply disabling comments, however, most certainly is. Asserting your right to speak, and no one the right to respond is nothing short of cowardice and insecurity.

Quote from AnnaCzereda How many women can you find working in the mines? In spite of all the feminist babble about gender being an arbitrary cultural thing, biology significantly determines our social life.

Actually I have found a female working hard physical male based jobs. That is the thing, if they can cross that line and do more than just mouth off or type on forums that instantly gets some of my respect. Then again there are jobs I think are sexless like many farm jobs.

I am working a job at the moment that involves a lot of furniture moving and work with a woman. Now most people instantly think she must be built like a German weight lifter but she is not. That I know of she has never complained and at most she calls trolley time if we are moving a rather heavy item. So it is not the mines but she holds her own.

I have also come across many other females in jobs often thought of as male only. Many of them receive a bit of mouthing off from some of the males but shake it off or just laugh at the mouthy ones. There was one female I worked security with that did a far better job than many of the males and far more professional.

So yes there are some females that do see gender roles as arbitrary and do more than talk about it. It is those females that get a bit of my respect.

Quote from Nith I am working a job at the moment that involves a lot of furniture moving and work with a woman. Now most people instantly think she must be built like a German weight lifter but she is not. That I know of she has never complained and at most she calls trolley time if we are moving a rather heavy item. So it is not the mines but she holds her own.

Quote from luz I am just super surprised that my YouTube troll start picking on me by reading the forum (not SIN).

"Women have to dance the tango backwards, in heels."

I consider myself a feminist in the truest sense of the word. Cognitively, men and women are equals.

Obviously, however, there are differences between men and women, which stem from two main factors: Hormone physiology & cultural influence.

Many of the women Satanists I have dealt with are very dominant people. Generally speaking, those drawn to Darkness are individuals of strong will.

In many world cultures, females are raised to be submissive. It is an unfortunate reality that many women still accept this cultural indoctrination.

Something that comes to mind is a psychological observation about women considered "beautiful" their whole lives: Women who have always been pretty, and treated as such, often lack a certain development of character. Being pretty is enough. It is their asset. Their strength.

To a man of superficial tastes, the "blonde bimbo" type might hit the spot. I expect more from my women, personally... but I digress.

We are Satanists, after all. Let's get butt naked and howl at the moon!

Quote from Zach_Black Same conclusion Jasin. I know and have spoken to several of these ONA types. Behind trying to dominate internet forums, try to convince others how sinister they are, I do not see anything remotely related to ONA material as written by Anton Long outside of the internet.

The “All feminists are a joke” I just bypassed as a standard generalisation but the birth control topic just popped up with out any connection I could see. Normally I would say a generalisation like the “all feminists” would hardly be worth your reply but I am still working out what pulls your strings.

I have travelled a little and checked out the cultural back grounds of many places but was a little shocked at your statement that these are actually issues of today. Yes the rights of females can be an issue in certain countries and religious groups but you seem to be talking about where you live (listed on profile as America). Most (not all) of the things that can get in the way of a western woman are simple background noise and not real issues unless you let them be.

The feminist argument many use about doing the washing up is a cover screen excuse at best. As long as a person has working hands and an IQ high enough to tie their shoes then they can safely do the the washing up. Birth control at least where I know of it is a personal responsibility and not a gender topic as both sides are involved so both are responsible. The woman's act of voting is a topic that runs back to the bra burning days. Woman vote, door closed and move on with something new.

In closing; I have a fair amount of respect for a woman (or anyone actually) who can stand up for their self without making themselves look like a rant waiting to happen. “Many” of the newer feminists seem full of hot air and dwell on the past actions of what was done before them. Be it male or female if it sounds like coffee house bullshit then it mostly is. Now I am running out of time but will check this later.

luz, in place of an ongoing circular argument I would recommend reading between the lines (or in this case the missing lines). The way I see that generalisation is “all feminists (that they know of)” and really not worth the extra time. Then again most of the females I know of also hate the feminist title as it generally gets advertised as male hate. I guess it is the same as so many Satanists who are just anti Christian!

Just as many LHP people don't use the Satanist title there are many females who stand up for themselves and will not use the feminist title. So what I see is mainly an argument over a title use. My farther used to have a saying about titles that I like,,, “does it matter what colour or label on the wine bottle if all that is inside is piss?”. Actions are more important than the labels people give them.

Quote from luz The sacrifice we've made is not having children because I am not capable (or unwilling) to have my career and also to take on the duties and responsibilities of a housewife/mom.)

Luz, care to chime in on my suggestion?