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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 22 '21
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I'm assuming you mean Halloween and the birthday.


No, Valborg's Night and Samhain. 


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How does one celebrate those true satanic holidays?


Personally, I see no reason to celebrate it alone. I see holidays and ceremony in general as a way of humans to maintain a tribe based on the fact that the human animal cooperates in tribes for survival and triumph. There is nothing herd mentality about that. 


Quote from Aborior Translatione

How do you different Satanic celebration vs. Christian there?


The ceremony in the intellectual decompression chamber would of course be that the high priest talks about satanic themes that are related to that holiday. This is not so different from the other religions. The only difference is that the participants are into an emotional state of mind because of their 
willing intellectual decompression. The intellectual decompression chamber is essential because Satanists would normally not act like that because of their individuality.
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Aborior Translatione
Okay, Walpurgisnaught and Samhain.


Germanic pagan. 


What makes them Satanic?  


What are the roots of each? 


Still seems like something is raping the wheel of the year. 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 22 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione Okay, Walpurgisnaught and Samhain.


Germanic pagan. 


What makes them Satanic?  


What are the roots of each? 


Still seems like something is raping the wheel of the year. 


Are your questions again a test of me?
Aborior Translatione
I just think the criteria of what makes it Satanic to you is whether or not it was written in the Satanic Bible, which is the source of the phrase "Satanic Holidays". I find this amusing. 


I get it too. Both have macabre roots, but only after Christianization. 


Like walpurgis is named for a saint. It is in itself a hybridization festival of Saint Walpurgis and Beltane, which you can look up now. 


Samhain was a Celtic festival not dissimilar from the later Chinese festival of the Hungry Ghost. Burning things for good luck and to ward off evil. It was incorporated first by Rome, and then by The Vatican becoming All Saints/All Souls celebrations. 


So I ask, How does one make their celebration of these Satanic?

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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Apr 23 '21



Quote from Aborior Translatione I just think the criteria of what makes it Satanic to you is whether or not it was written in the Satanic Bible, which is the source of the phrase "Satanic Holidays". I find this amusing.

Not your typical bible thumper.

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 23 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione I just think the criteria of what makes it Satanic to you is whether or not it was written in the Satanic Bible, which is the source of the phrase "Satanic Holidays". I find this amusing. 

Valborg's Night was the witches's night where they had sex with the devil and it was the night before Beltane which is associated with fertility. Halloween is said to be the night where devils and demons are out. I don't find it amusing that LaVey selected these holidays.


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 23 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione

And you can't cite ANYTHING The Satanic Bible Says to answer. 


TSB do not have the answers but it has a definition of Satanism or more specific the satanic religion. It was the first book to define Satanism outside Christian mythology. This does not make me a COS supporter or "LaVeyan". It's just a fact. 

What I find amusing is that we have people in a satanic forum like this that are very interested in commenting on topics of Satanism but don't want to spend some time to actually read TSB. 

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Aborior Translatione

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Quote from Aborior Translatione I just think the criteria of what makes it Satanic to you is whether or not it was written in the Satanic Bible, which is the source of the phrase "Satanic Holidays". I find this amusing. 

Valborg's Night was the witches's night where they had sex with the devil and it was the night before Beltane which is associated with fertility. Halloween is said to be the night where devils and demons are out. I don't find it amusing that LaVey selected these holidays.


You'd argue the spin of a fermion to a CERN physicist. Even I wouldn't do that. 


The Satanism of it all explained. 


Originally it was called Beltane, this was a pagan celebration of the beginning of summer (not spring, I confused it with Ostera in a previous post).  Beltane later became May Day Celebrations, those still exist. 


There was also a Saint named Walpurgis, who was synonymous with being an icon of protection AGAINST WITCHCRAFT after cannonization.  Walpurgisnaught was a night (for this saint) to ward off evil witches and their evil beliefs.  It and all its variations on April 30th didn't exist until Christians used it to subvert a concurrent pagan holiday. 


The purpose was a psycholoigical cultural appropriation of those wicked pagans LITERALLY DANCING AROUND THE MAY POLE.  That's the origin, pagans doing jesus-less dances and a fear of dark forces associated with that. 


To demonize PAGANS, and their wicked spring/summer celebration, this night was created. Witches are just stronger on their Sabbats. 


Fast forward thousands of years and the "Satanic" celebration is IRONIC. Its celebrating THE OPPOSITE of the intent of the anglo-saxon Walpurgisnaught. 


I mean, you can go out pretending to fornicate with demons, but it's not like its satanic association is anything more than a religious satire of the christianization of pagan tradition.


What better night to suspend any magical disbelief? Take that Walpurgis, Yay Satan! 


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Homework, so you stop looking so retarded. 


Study this ancient chart for the origins of these 'Satanic' Holidays. 



[The Eight Witches Sabbats]


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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione


The Satanism of it all explained. 


Originally it was called Beltane, this was a pagan celebration of the beginning of summer (not spring, I confused it with Ostera in a previous post).  Beltane later became May Day Celebrations, those still exist. 


There was also a Saint named Walpurgis, who was synonymous with being an icon of protection AGAINST WITCHCRAFT after cannonization.  Walpurgisnaught was a night (for this saint) to ward off evil witches and their evil beliefs.  It and all its variations on April 30th didn't exist until Christians used it to subvert a concurrent pagan holiday. 


The purpose was a psycholoigical cultural appropriation of those wicked pagans LITERALLY DANCING AROUND THE MAY POLE.  That's the origin, pagans doing jesus-less dances and a fear of dark forces associated with that. 


To demonize PAGANS, and their wicked spring/summer celebration, this night was created. Witches are just stronger on their Sabbats. 


Fast forward thousands of years and the "Satanic" celebration is IRONIC. Its celebrating THE OPPOSITE of the intent of the anglo-saxon Walpurgisnaught. 


I mean, you can go out pretending to fornicate with demons, but it's not like its satanic association is anything more than a religious satire of the christianization of pagan tradition.


What better night to suspend any magical disbelief? Take that Walpurgis, Yay Satan! 


**********


Homework, so you stop looking so retarded. 


Study this ancient chart for the origins of these 'Satanic' Holidays. 



Why should I care? Holiday and ceremony is a tool to maintain a tribe. That's what religion is really all about. Satanism celebrates these 2 holidays for what they became. Satanists have no reasons to think deeper about it especially not when the ceremony is performed in the intellectual decompression chamber. 
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Anna
Anna Apr 24 '21
Of course. Why should anyone think deeper? Why engage in such a useless activity as thinking? You're really gifted when it comes to that. I only wonder why you keep wasting your time philosophizing. Get down to work. Gather your tribe of retards, rent some space for your black house, decorate it with some spooky stuff and start conducting ceremonies. What's stopping you? 
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Anna Of course. Why should anyone think deeper? Why engage in such a useless activity as thinking?

Why should I waste my time on researching on the origins of these selected satanic holidays since Satanism celebrates them as they have become? What difference does it make to my personal development?



You're really gifted when it comes to that.

If I was not an analyzing person I would have no need for intellectual decompression to participate in ritual or ceremony. That's why I have asked myself that you really know what intellectual decompression means.


Quote from Anna I only wonder why you keep wasting your time philosophizing. 

Me too. I think it's an obsession.


Quote from Anna Gather your tribe of retards, rent some space for your black house, decorate it with some spooky stuff and start conducting ceremonies. 

Satanists you mean... Do you consider CoS people to be retarded because they participating in ceremony in intellectual decompression chambers?


Quote from Anna What's stopping you? 

Busy in my private life.

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Aborior Translatione
But why do 'Satanists' only celebrate 2/8 of the witches sabbats. 


There up to 6 seasonal celebrations missing! 


Observe Satanic Imbolc. (North America Only)


Imbolc is the celebration of the beginning of Spring. It happens early February. As all Satanic celebrations are in reference to corrupted pagan celebrations, the Satanic version should follow the same formula. 


St. William Murray explains my proposed Satanic Imbolc: 




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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione But why do 'Satanists' only celebrate 2/8 of the witches sabbats. 

Because it's enough to maintain the satanic tribe.
Aborior Translatione
The rodent needs to die though.


My tribe doesn't let a fucking glorified squirrel tell everyone when spring starts! Fuck that!


Just because a lower animal reacts to bullshit, and then thinks it sees something, doesn't mean the prognostication of a rodent should be held as a viable weather prediction. It can still snow after Easter. For this reason it undermines the REAL nature of seasonal change.  People are made stupid by this process. 


You need to transgress against this proclamation. 


You gotta say, "No, a rat is not an accurate predictor of upcoming weather." 


Then you gotta do the opposite of whatever the weather rat says. If it says winter will last 6 more weeks you must go to the beach and/or polar bear swimming, especially polar bear swimming. A bonus if you throw the groundhog into the lake too. But if the rat says "early spring" you must go and practiced winter sports, but still the groundhog. 







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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
What is your point? 

Valborg's Night was the night LaVey created the COS that brought birth to Satanism and therefore it's the satanic new year. Halloween represents Memento Mori meaning "Remember You Shall Die" and when Satanists remember they shall die they focus on their life here and now because it's not for sure there is an afterlife. If Satanists wants to celebrate other holidays beside that they will do it. I also celebrate Christmas with my family.

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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle What is your point? 

Valborg's Night was the night LaVey created the COS that brought birth to Satanism and therefore it's the satanic new year. Halloween represents Memento Mori meaning "Remember You Shall Die" and when Satanists remember they shall die they focus on their life here and now because it's not for sure there is an afterlife. If Satanists wants to celebrate other holidays beside that they will do it. I also celebrate Christmas with my family.


So the thing that makes it Satanic is because LaVey used it?  


But also on April 30th, 1975 some Army dude talked to Osiris' younger brother, who revealed itself as the TRUE manifestation of Satan or something. He didnt even need a metatron to do it either.  It came forth by night and told the Army did how to make Satanism more like the Army.  You can rank up in degrees just like the Freemasons.  You can achieve titles of progress showing you completed an assignment on your magical progression and no one can tell you otherwise.  Just imagine "6th Degree Ipsissimus Frater Lucy Faerie"  That's way beyond adept! 


How does that not supersede the Church of Satan's founding 8 years earlier? 

 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione 

So the thing that makes it Satanic is because LaVey used it?  


I have not said they are satanic itself. They are original pagan holidays that became Christianized. I don't deny that fact. The term "Satanism" and "satanic" is also a Christian invention.

For a tribe to be maintained there most be dates for ceremony. I don't get why you find it strange. It's part of human nature. Ceremony do not only exists in religion but also in clubs and organisations.



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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione  Frater Lucy Faerie"  

You must have been here for long time since you still use the name Frater Luciferi. If I did not knew better I would think you were Ak who hacked Zach's system framing me.
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Aborior Translatione

Quote from Tom Riddle
Quote from Aborior Translatione  Frater Lucy Faerie"  

You must have been here for long time since you still use the name Frater Luciferi. If I did not knew better I would think you were Ak who hacked Zach's system framing me.
You're noteworthy for you absolute lack of progress. 


You have achieved life after death through fulfillment of your ego as being the epitome of an intellectual black hole to everyone but you. 


You have been consistently getting you're ass kicked in debate for years, and by Shawn Fucking Hartnell of all people.  And though that account was deleted by AK (to piss you off) you can still ascertain by the responses remaining that your apex has been reached and you have plateaued. 

https://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com//social/forum/topic/124

 My favorite comment from that thread:

The flip side of the question is whether there are any things which are NOT Satanisms. If you saw them, could you recognize them as totally wrong, or definitely not something you'd agree was Satanism?

Some examples:
• Christian Satanism, worshipping the Father (Jehovah), Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit;
• Fascist Satanism which subsumes the individual in favour of the cult leader or heroic megalomaniac.
• Satanic Jello Worshippers whose primary activity is the consumption of Hello Kitty moulded jello desserts.


Now, while I lack the entire context, a trip through the achieve reveals your ongoing ability to engage people through ineptitude alone. 

https://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com//social/forum/topic/897

Did they ever let you edit the Wikipedia page on Satanism? 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Apr 24 '21
Quote from Aborior Translatione 
You're noteworthy for you absolute lack of progress. 

Keep yourself believing that. I regret what I said during the years. 
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