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The Autumn Equinox is upon us!

The season of maturity and wisdom; of crisp air, falling leaves, and of harvesting deeds sowed.

So to commemorate, here is one of my favorite poems by Yeats...

The Wild Swans at Coole by WB Yeats

The trees are in their autumn beauty,   

The woodland paths are dry,

Under the October twilight the water   

Mirrors a still sky;

Upon the brimming water among the stones   

Are nine-and-fifty swans.

The nineteenth autumn has come upon me   

Since I first made my count;

I saw, before I had well finished,

All suddenly mount

And scatter wheeling in great broken rings   

Upon their clamorous wings.

I have looked upon those brilliant creatures,   

And now my heart is sore.

All's changed since I, hearing at twilight,   

The first time on this shore,

The bell-beat of their wings above my head,   

Trod with a lighter tread.

Unwearied still, lover by lover,

They paddle in the cold

Companionable streams or climb the air;   

Their hearts have not grown old;

Passion or conquest, wander where they will,   

Attend upon them still.

But now they drift on the still water,   

Mysterious, beautiful;   

Among what rushes will they build,

By what lake's edge or pool

Delight men's eyes when I awake some day   

To find they have flown away?

JamesSTL Sep 23 '14 · Rate: 5 · Tags: poetry autumn
Khandnalie Member

Satanism in general is a philosophy that discourages false equality. Not everything is equal, some are better than others. Fred is smarter than Greg, but Lucy is smarter than Fred, and Greg is a lot stronger than either of them. People are different, unique, and for the most part inherently unequal in certain categories. Satanism, in general, will acknowledged this, and discourage false equivalency between people who are not equal in a given area.

Why, then, are we so tolerant of the notion that ideas are equal?

There are many cases when we are too quick to jump to the conclusion that two competing ideas are somehow on equal footing, and must be given equal consideration. This is a cancerous, poisonous trend that we should be careful to avoid. We need to realize that yes, you can indeed be wrong.

Define wrong? By wrong, I mean demonstrably, proveably, completely wrong. When the overwhelming majority of evidence weighs against an idea, it is wrong. When all logical arguments point to the invalidity of an idea, it is wrong. When something just is not factually correct, it is wrong. It doesn’t matter that it being wrong offends you, or implies something unpleasant, or that it hurts something. What is wrong is simply wrong. No amount of being offended or petulant whining will change that. This does not apply to abstract ideas, where there is plenty of logical wiggle room, or philosophical ponderings, or where the evidence is anything but overwhelmingly conclusive. Within the realm of thoughts and opinions, it is hard to pin anything down as being demonstrably wrong. You can disagree with them; that does not mean they are wrong. But where facts and evidence come into play, it is much more often cut and dry. If you are wrong, then you are simply wrong.

An example: The recent shitstoem over vaccinations. Now, I don’t know your position on vaccinating children. I don’t really care. What should be clear, however, is that there is an overwhelming scientific consensus: Vaccinations do not cause any significant harm to those who are vaccinated. Vaccines do not cause autism. Some previously suppressed diseases have begun to re-emerge, thanks in large part to the growing trend of parents refusing to vaccinate their children. Not vaccinating your child puts them directly at risk of contracting contagious diseases. Now, notice how each of those sentences ended with a period. They were not qualified, they were not compromised, they were absolute. That is because each of those statements is a fact. Thus, the anti-vaccination position, unless it condones the act of putting children at risk, and has a decidedly pro-polio agenda, is quite simply wrong. They are wrong. Demonstrably, they are wrong. Thus, these ideas should be tossed out without further examination. They should get no platform on which to spread their ignorance. They do not belong on the same stage as properly debatable ideas, or on any stage where facts and evidence come into play.

Now, that is just an example, but the problem should be made clear. When unequal ideas are made equal, it is immensely more harmful and more absurd than the equal treatment of unequal people. With this in mind, be sure to examine your ideas, and examine the ideas of others. Forever seek the truth. When dealing with reality, let logic guide your scrutinizing eye. When the wrong and factually incorrect try to seek equal treatment, demand to be given the same voice as the factual, put your foot down, and do not let ignorance advance any further.

Because yes, you can be wrong. And, when you’re wrong you’re wrong, and you should be told so.

Khandnalie Sep 21 '14 · Comments: 9 · Tags: facts, logic, equality, evidence, reason, rationality
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Here below, I am going to try and give out clear differences and meanings of the left hand path and the right hand path. Personally, I am more into the Left hand path but it does of course depend on the individual on what they decide to choose as everyone is free.

The biggest and worst deadly catastrophic, cataclysmic mistake that the right hand path’s did ( ALL of them), are those that based their doctrine  that one has to be purified and reach up to a certain degree, bliss or ‘heaven’. This particular sin I’m talking about is ‘pride’.

Down below is an accurate quote of those who support this ideology also of the  method of thinking, and will be talking about it briefly.

Never forget that God did not make the Devil—Lucifer only became the devil when he arrogantly became infatuated with himself. Yes, Lucifer is a created being. God said, “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee” (Ezek. 28:15). This beautiful, powerful, intelligent, and gifted cherub fell from his perfect estate when his heart was lifted up because of his own beauty and brightness (v. 17). No longer was he willing to be subservient to the Creator. Staggering pride was to blame for the tragedy in heaven.

“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! … For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne … I will sit also upon the mount … I will ascend above the heights…I will be like the most High” (Isa. 14:12-14).

Self-will displaced God’s will, and the Devil emerged. It has been said, “Man is never more like the Devil than when he is full of self-will.” The Bible strictly forbids placing a novice in leadership, “lest being lifted up with pride he falls into the condemnation of the devil” (1 Tim. 3:6). It was pride that caused Lucifer’s fall and subsequent condemnation. The snare of pride is a deadly peril to which new converts should never be wilfully subjected. Nothing does more to set a person out of the devils reach than humility.

The website I've quoted shows the effects of what pride does to you. Some things are also true for those of which have excessive pride in particular, but let us see what is the actual and true definition of pride which is in more detail and found below :





Noun noun: pride; plural noun: prides

1. a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of one's close associates, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired.

"the faces of the children's parents glowed with pride"

synonyms: pleasure, joy, delight, gratification, fulfilment, satisfaction, sense of achievement; comfort, content, contentment

"many craftsmen take pride in a good job well done"

•a person or thing which arouses a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction.

"the pride of the village is the swimming pool"

synonyms: source of satisfaction, pride and joy, darling, apple of someone's eye, treasured possession, admiration, object of admiration, joy, delight, marvel

"the large vegetable garden was the pride of the hospital gardener"


the best state of something; the prime.

"in the pride of youth"

2. consciousness of one's own dignity.

"he swallowed his pride and asked for help"

synonyms: self-esteem, dignity, honour, self-respect, ego, self-worth, self-image, self-identity, self-regard, pride in oneself, pride in one's abilities, belief in one's worth, faith in oneself; amour proper

"the triumphs of war were a source of pride to them"

•the quality of having an excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importance."

The ideology of the right hand path, has a tendency that one is otherwise humble in contrast to pride, whereby it’s meaning is exactly like this :








adjective: humble; comparative adjective: humbler; superlative adjective: humblest

1. having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's importance.

"I felt very humble when meeting her"

synonyms: meek, deferential, respectful, submissive, self-effacing, unassertive; modest, unassuming, self-deprecating, free from vanity, hiding one's light under a bushel; obsequious, sycophantic, servile; 

antonyms: proud, overbearing

•(of an action or thought) offered with or affected by a modest estimate of one's importance.

"my humble apologies"

2. of low social, administrative, or political rank.

"she came from a humble, unprivileged background"

synonyms: low-ranking, low, lowly, lower-class, plebeian, proletarian, working-class, undistinguished, poor, mean, ignoble, of low birth, low-born, of low rank; common, commonplace, ordinary, simple, inferior, unimportant, unremarkable, insignificant, 

"she came from a humble, unprivileged background"

antonyms: noble

3. (of a thing) of modest pretensions or dimensions.

"he built the business empire from humble beginnings"

synonyms: unpretentious, modest,  plain, simple, ordinary

"welcome to my humble abode"

antonyms: grand

1. cause (someone) to feel less important or proud.

"he was humbled by his many ordeals"

synonyms: humiliate, abase, demean, belittle, lower, degrade, debase, bring down, bring low; mortify, shame, put to shame, abash, subdue, chasten, make someone eat humble pie, take down a peg or two; informal put down, cut down to size, settle someone's hash; informal make someone eat crow "


It is then of course up to the individual to choose the road they actually want. It’s as though not everyone is destined to live the same kind of life. Something St.Francis of Assisi used to say was, “I've got nothing, but everything all at once”, However then one may reach such extremes that a person such as St.Francis ends up hating the earthly life. The priests in fact used to beat themselves up as corporal punishment, he also used to say for example throw himself amongst thorns because he was obsessed about sin.

Nowadays it is not as popular this thing however, it is a fact that there are people that exaggerate and end up not putting on make-up, do not dress up in an attractive, appealing and sexy way, or in a fashionable way because psychologically they start hating the beauty present in earthly things, that according to them is not beautiful at all and possibly is considered as a sin. Though, there is of course nothing much I can do about such individuals at it is clear they prefer themselves that way and can content themselves that way.

To me, it’s a heresy where if you’re living in a world and do not feel proud and be individualistic and authentic in this world in itself via success. In contrast there are those that are superstitious and get scandalised easily, not to mention that they are happy with whatever comes their own way without really questioning it. I'm not going to judge and ask which is the right road to go, if it’s the right hand path or the left hand path. Because there are some people that can tell you that they are happy as they are. But personally I believe that for a person to be complete, they should be fulfilled in the seven chakras. Not go to the extreme of the crown chakra – the spirit and dislike the root chakra – the earthly life, we aren't talking about this kind of thing here, and one shouldn't live that life vice versa either. It is good to balance  all  things in my opinion. 

When I am talking about spirit here, I am referring to the consciousness that there are some kinds of energies which are cosmic, you can call it whatever you like. It can be called ‘Supreme being, unmoved mover’ or some sort of aura/vital energy that is bigger than you. Being a Satanist for me it is also considered to be positive and living in a healthy way in all seven chakras and if one consider the true essence of black magic, and believing in yourself that "I AM", you are being complete. It’s good to mention, that Anton LaVey believed in forces but hid behind the mask of atheism in my opinion which is a good philosophy and from being sceptic one can move on to science, with proofs, facts and logic, follows also the metaphysics, for example the formation of atoms, the origin of the elements : earth, water, fire, air, and one can otherwise conclude that it’s possible that there are other Smaller elements under the dark particles. Albert Einstein has mentioned where Dark Matter is concerned, that is under the sub atomic particles. It may be the case that beyond that dark matter, there is the spirit or the energy that is in the atom, there are some who say that  an atom consists of : matter, consciousness and from the spirit or ‘energy’. All this originates from Egypt, from gnostic teachings, and kept on being spread around the Greek Philosophy, that from forth has been derived the four elements that Anton La Vey himself, had used in the Satanic Rituals.

Practically the difference between the right hand path and the left hand path is, that the left hand path allows you to believe in yourself, believe in sciences, reason and logic, even scepticism and live a fulfilled life, and appreciate life and nature, in contrast to whomever lives in a different way in the right hand path. There are many debates on if pride is good or bad, but I still think that there is nothing wrong in feeling proud, and having a high-self esteem, praise yourself, aim for perfection, believe you can reach wherever you like and also being a bit  narcissistic. 

Epicurus Sep 17 '14 · Tags: pride
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Zach Black Sep 16 '14 · Comments: 1 · Tags: satanic international network, zach black

Sleeping and dreaming in this miserable darkness make up.
Certain for sure of empty congregational movements along the river bed.
Some still steal looks, pain is the reason for cowards beliefs.
Are you bold enough to be a coward like me?
None to guide my way in this hasty dusty tunnel to the underground.
Where I write my post it notes and farewells to those I've long since noticed have left.
Poetry is but the long hoped for excuse of wanting to be alone.
Cover my face with sunlight, burning greatness at the weakness in me.
Rattling bones as I close in on myself.
She was just the We in Because not needed.
I waited for Your sign in the night skies along the tree lines just like old times.
Times times and half a time, need not be does it matter ?


Drucifer Sep 12 '14 · Rate: 5 · Tags: poetry, poem, 666
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Irrespectively of what others think, I'll write out from my own experience, of what is the perspective of Satanism for me.

After a couple of instances and experiences in my life, of what Catholicism really is,  philosophy and even Satanism itself I can actually say that nowadays, I can speak from all different viewpoints as though I'm talking as a representative of these I've mentioned without others really knowing of what I actually feel and think in reality.

This is where the 'Socratic Method' is actually really implied where one understands of what an individual is going through and possibly experiencing, this because, many Christians make assumptions and accuse Satanists with doings that are actually false and vice versa which is not the case.

For me Satanism is a tool, like a hammer to your head, and makes you realise and analyse of what and who you really are. Personally, when I look at the symbol of the baphomet and pentagram, psychologically, it helps one to understand the question of - who am I really?

I look at the structure of the baphomet in itself, I look at the masculine outline and detail of the horns, and remember of the potential that there is within myself as an individual asking myself who am I really? The real Satan in me.

Automatically, the answer to this question follows of what and who I really am - the conscious.

To add to this, you are whoever you are is dependant on the past experiences and the input that has been injected into your mind. That shapes your character, one cannot' exclude the inherited genetics from a scientific point of view. 

If one goes back in time, an individual may realise with their own identity of who they really are during those first six months of their early existence. They will know they exist, but they do not really know who they are. I'm going to reveal the secret of how I know of all this.

Satanism is the study not worship mostly, but more about worship of your true self and this is the key to everything in Satanism, it's a summary of everything put  in one of that with what makes you your true inner self.

I'm going to now hit the nail on the head, one cannot figure out and understand their inner self and who they really are on their own. One closes themselves up in isolation without a book, without methods of communication, without anything at all, completely bare and understand something about yourself because you'll be like that tribe in Africa where you are like some sort of animal - you solely exist but do not reach up to your full potential. Thus, this means that an individual essentially needs interaction with other individuals especially individuals that spend around 20 years that study about certain subjects such as History, Psychology and Science, where then comes along you the "all knowing" and (proud) Satanist thinking that you've actually accomplished the knowledge of these individuals who have studied 20 years, because you think you're your own God, and are able to figure things out all on my own and no one should interfere with my idea of what is right and wrong - you're only limiting yourself from experiencing and learning better things in this case.

After all this, you cannot be a Satanist unless you have an interest about your true self, and ask yourself who are you, where did I come from, how the universe came to be, where is the language coming from practically the Satanist is the philosopher and to accomplish this knowledge I'm going to give some spoon-feeding of this knowledge.

You need to read books. You need to watch documentaries about everything. After reading this, go and search on you-tube for example, what is conscious? what is time? and similar questions and watch these documents with all due respect towards everyone, the real knowledge isn't going to be accomplished solely by opinions on a forum, it's nearly impossible that in a forum you actually write-express  a 2 hours documentary and more on a forum. So pick up your book on say Psychology, Philosophy, Theology, Neuroscience and put your ass down on the blasted chair, couch or whatever you've got and start reading or watching  documentaries. I'm talking about and figure out for yourself. On how the mind truly works, of what is conscious, subconscious, what dreams are and so on.

Here I'm going to talk about something that 90 per cent of the Satanists won't agree with here.

Mix with Christians, go to the meetings and gatherings of Christians, and read that bible. How can you criticise a subject that you do not understand about? - the same I used to do when I was Catholic, I used to mix with Christians ( non denominational) to see the differences between them. The same I've done with Satanists, and go to their areas, In shelters underground  or wherever the heck they used to gather. I used to read their material and built a whole library on the subject. Nowadays I can understand 3 different perspectives of mindsets and that  is what makes one a true Satanist - the knowledge of who you truly are, to understand yourself, you need to understand what others are and finally gather what really makes you fulfilled in life.

Personally I wear that pentagram as  a reminder that tells me listen, you're a Satanist, you're a Philosopher, you're in a world in a realistic way and make use of the knowledge you've got with the aid of logic because if I do not wear it and do not have that reminder, it is easy for me to get distracted. It is easy for my mind to get lazy and live in dreaming and fantasy which are also a part of an individual's life, but only to make one happy for a limited period of time, no matter how much you need them.

However I also believe that you need a balance of everything in life. One needs a balance between fun of life and breaking your ass on your chair and being realistic and actually study. Knowledge is power.

Hail Satan  

Epicurus Sep 10 '14 · Comments: 1 · Tags: cogito ergo sum
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What is ID? The ID is a clue or blueprint of who you are. It can be on an internal level about you knowing yourself better or on an external level how society recognises you.

Internal in this case refers to concious and subconscious, and will talk more about what ‘recognition’ really means.

In pre-modern times, the word identity and recognition was not really widely known because everybody had their own place in the level of society. For example, if you were born on a ranch and your family has been farming all your life, your identity will be recognised as a farmer. This thing can also be found in the ideology of the church, where it had the power that you ‘keep quiet’ and do not question it’s authority. This is still ongoing in the ‘State’ where one of the slogan’s says ‘In God we Trust’ in the US, or in England ‘God Save the Queen’ and more recently in Islam that is an enormous global threat currently for us – Irrespective of what belief, moral or ethical standards you behold.

This instrumental reasoning thus needs to be stopped before it otherwise annihilates ourselves. I’ll come to to the point in this. I'm irritated by the fact, that a person poses as a Satanist and close up within themselves, with the argument that they are in favour of personal individualism and are careless of what is going on around them.

A person like this is not looking at the ‘common good’ of Satanism in itself and is otherwise self-defeating themselves in this case and giving the idea that he is ‘gathering the knowledge’.

I don’t want to give the idea that I am against individualism and authenticity because I believe that one is free to live in whichever way they choose to live in.

However if one takes their ‘individualism to the extreme’, one will end up isolating themselves, go against your own nature where we know that in Satanism we are in favour of nature rather than against. We ourselves have a ‘tongue’ we have a ‘language’. If you remove the faculty of ‘language’ in itself, you will be killing yourself. Language is there for you to transmit this in a wise way.

It is not really of importance to me, who will acknowledge or not this principle so long as I am authentic. I am aware that one needs to be careful of how to tell things as LaVey himself says.

If individualism is taken to the extreme, one will end up with no dialogue, no recognition in society, no friends, no love(no girlfriend) and end up alone and no one and eventually dead. We are in ourselves after all here to live in a society.

Is it possible that in truth the thing of not wanting to share your own knowledge is because you can say something silly and could be made fun of? The biggest Satanists that exist are young children, because they ask everything and are curious about everything. 

Whoever goes against what I am saying, is being disrespectful towards LaVey himself who transmitted his message to us through the Satanic Bible and also towards this community in itself because you cannot be in a website community if you say that you do not care that you do not care about the rest of the world. It’s a sort of paradox so to speak.

One should be an individualist, authentic, live in a society and be proud to be a Satanist. I'm referring to ‘society’ as even two individuals. It’s enough you don’t need a whole mass or group of people. That’s your thing as to how much you want to extend your own message.

Obviously, depending on how much you are going to extend the message you will have people in favour or against you.

If you are going to extend your belief into more than two people do not do it, unless it’s for your own personal gain, for your own pride, and if possible also, for your own personal value.

What do I mean by value? – A Satanic value, when you transmit your own value to others, and others receive that value I am not excluding the fact that you will of course have followers and followers equals money therefore, value equals money.

You aren't fooling  people but you’re giving them value, and you’re getting paid for such a value. An example is the Christian community. The Christian’s give the money to their God for an abundant life and possibly even ‘heaven’.

Satanism can also be used as a business method. If you use Satanism for business, you need to keep a rule in mind, that you are honest and do not make fun of, or fool people. This means, value for money. Many metal bands have otherwise achieved fame and money from making use of 'Satan's name. Personally I say they did well if they recognised the business knowledge. The important thing is that they make people happy with what they are giving.

That is the way, but I admire the fact, that you can be generous and whoever is generous is more honourable and noble that you are giving out your knowledge for free and is really looking at the common good.

Whatever you choose no matter how, the most important is, that the people are satisfied and that you allow the Satanic blood run fervently within such people. Here I'm going to mention a list of people who are individualistic, authentic and surely did not hoard their knowledge solely for their good selves because otherwise their philosophy is already dead. Now it is up to you if you want to add to this list ( dead or alive it does not matter).

-All the philosophers ( Aristotle, Plato and Socrates, Friedrich Nietzsche)

-Sigmund Freud ( the father of psychoanalysis who contributed much in the psychological and psychiatric field)

-Jesus Christ ( whom many have made business from)

-Anton Szandor LaVey


-Adolph Hitler

-John Paul The Great

and many more but this is just to name a great few.....


I do hope that whoever reads what I've written, will really recognise what is their identity, as a true Satanist if they really want to succeed.

Please do note that the value of all this is that one should live a ‘social’ life with whomever is deemed worthy for this and do not go outside yelling, “Hey everyone I'm a Satanist!” if you are aware you’ll only bring disaster to your own self. If you are going to show yourself who you truly and really are, be sure that you are also doing it in favour of your own good self or for the identity of this society thus increases, even if you end up being an martyr for such an ideology and be remembered as a ‘hero’.


Hail Satan!



Epicurus Sep 7 '14 · Tags: identification, business
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I'd really like to throw this one into the mix, described to me as Weird Science but with the Devil instead of a cute broad being summoned from a nerd's computer - Stars Clint Howard as a bullied geek who wreaks havok via a supercompuer, it was banned in the UK by Maggie Thatcher in her war on so-called Video Nasties, at the time Maggie was palling around with Jimmy Savile and screwing the miners.

Smelly Cat Sep 5 '14 · Tags: satanic movies
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Where 'love' is concerned  there are 2 particular kinds I shall be discussing about that are:

1. Eros

2. Agape


Eros is the kind of love that involves self-interest, is based on an ego-centric foundation and is based on the need that one feels themselves fulfilled in return.

Agape is based more on an unconditional love, self giving, self-sacrificial, and self-giving foundation. However I see that it contains a paradox in a way because of the the 'give & take' concept it involves, which is why I still see that it is otherwise fulfilling.

Let's go into further detail :


Theologically speaking, meaning love that is centred more towards the Christian view, bends more towards the 'agape' aspect of love rather than 'eros'.

As regards 'Eros' one may find many quotes within Scripture that condemn, particularly lust induced feelings, found in the nature of humans and to make use of 'Eros' for means of procreation - please do correct me if I'm wrong in this. 

What is the satanic love and what is it all about?


Anton LaVey does not condemn anyone to not 'love'. He does not make any distinction between agape and Eros in this. Rather he says (for those of you who have read the Satanic Bible) on the topic of love and hate.


"SATANISM represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on


You cannot love everyone; it is ridiculous to think you can. If you love everyone


everything you lose your natural powers of selection and wind up being a pretty


judge of character and quality. If anything is used too freely it loses its true


Therefore, the Satanist believes you should love strongly and completely those

who deserve your love.." Satanic Bible

So in other words LaVey has told us it is allowed to love but in a 'wise' way.

A huge bad mistake that some people from the right hand path have done, possibly even those on the left hand path as well (Theistic Satanists), and amongst them New Agers, those involved in the occult ie; wiccan's and the Christians alike, have said that the 'spirit' goes against 'the body'. Therefore if one want's to mediate they believe in removing all sexual distractions, and focus more on the spirit not the body as they go against each other.

In my view and interpretation, a LaVeyan Satanic love gives more gain than this way of thinking because it focuses more on the 'authentic self', the 'individualistic self', the ego and your own potential in an earthly way meaning that you are part of the elements of the world - Earth, Air, Fire and Water.

Personally, I believe that one needs to have a balance between both i.e; 'spirit' or 'external' and also 'internal' which is ego-centric, depending on the situation that comes ahead of you. Therefore a LaVeyan satanic love is much more whole from this point of view - therefore it makes one feel 'complete' as a human being.

When I mentioned the 'spirit' I wasn't referring to LaVey being Theistic, but rather Atheist in this method of reasoning. The idea of 'spirit' that I have mentioned, could be interpreted both as an energy that is present around the world that controls everything. It could also be referred to as the 'law of attraction' that is like a magnet in the world, where whatever one focuses on, will attain more of it because you would have otherwise attracted it. It could also be that this 'spirit' is the same chemical of 'love' characteristics present in the human mind - the same chemical 'adrenaline' which can be also 'orgasmic' energy in a negative form or positive form, all present within man.

What can we actually conclude from all this?


If you take a look above at all that has been written, indirectly I'm stating that 'love' which is an abstract thing cannot be defined, except by it's attributes, and hence in reality 'love' in itself does not really exist, and not even hate but it does actually exist where the circumstance actually brings forth this chemical and energy that there is in us. A Satanic love teaches you, that one should be a 'wise devil' and be aware that around you there are other 'devils', in a metaphorical sense that exist that can actually break you, abuse of you and take everything away from you. This is why the Satanic bible tells you that "Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wastedon ingrates!Satanic Bible.

In other words it means that you should love those that are worthwhile, and hate your enemies with as much passion.

A Satanic Authentic Love- Defined


A Satanic Authentic love, implies, the self determinative freedom  - self determinative love, self-determinative sexual orientation. It is an individualistic and social love.

We are not hermits, we are social animals to give and to receive and vice versa and has a self value without any special explanation for it and this is when one realises that in the 'Satanic love' on has the concept of diversity, where the right hand path is biased.

The Satanic love, is not a way of modernity a fashion or a narcissist love.

Being like the rest of the people for example 'fashion' where media portrays how one is supposed to live and act in order to be 'cool' without being original because you figure yourself out and have that self-pride within. This also means that you are otherwise not authentic and the same for Satanic love.

 To conclude, Satanism helps one to figure out real love without prejudice, helps you find out your true self, and figure out what you really want in a wise way. I am aware of the fact that there are those that will disagree with me because they are extremists and concentrate only on an internal point of view in these matters and think that the spirit goes against the body, therefore they focus only on the body. 

Epicurus Sep 4 '14 · Tags: love
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Do I have to  boast that I am a Satanist ? 

I am a person who is in favour of authenticity and admire who has the courage and show their beliefs and choice of lifestyle as they really believe in what they are doing and saying. Looking at my own experience when I was authentic, boastful and always running around with a Christian Bible everywhere allowed me to make a hit because I became more famous and some people did actually get closer to me. However some people also built a bigger and greater wall between myself and them.

That one is publicly authentic means that you’ll be more productive and efficient in a favourable way for you but you will also have the same force against you. If you see back in history, famous people that are looked at as ‘hero’s like say : ‘Socrates’, ‘Napoleon’, ‘Hitler’, ‘Jesus’, ‘Dr Anton laVey’, ‘Joan of Ark’ and the like.

However you end up seeing that such people ended up either killed and through the ages ended up being considered as ‘Hero’s’ or instead they had this force both in favour and against them.

But if all this  fine to them and they were happy it it, OK that is good. Personally, even though one may not agree with this, I would prefer being inspired from Plato’s words because he was "wiser", much more "A devil" . I will explain why.

I ll give the example of a wood worm that bores it’s way in slowly slowly every day, is invisible but more efficient. You’ll realise it’s  actually there, or maybe realise that sooner or later, but by then the work would've been all done.

For those of you who know the writings of ‘Plato’ I'm referring to the ‘Allegory of the Cave’ I'm going to provide a link with the animation of it, where it’s worthwhile to look at it and it’s pretty much original as well.

If a person feels that they should publicly fight for their rights they are free to do so although there are certain consequences behind such behaviour. But I prefer to even enrol in organisations, institutions and groups that have different beliefs and slowly slowly everyday I am otherwise influencing and indoctrinate indirectly and when the right time comes if and when for me to give my final sentence. It could be by the use of a vote or a lightening bolt in the brink of day. Well I could even end up like these authentic people that have otherwise publicised themselves that had a great opposition.

Lemme give an example. Imagine, the president of America saying openly he’s a Satanist – what would people think of him then? I think he wouldn't last long another day in his post as President.

I believe that sooner or later whatever is hidden and wicked all will someday be exposed and truth will otherwise prevail and it will make you be seen as a traitor, a hypocrite, false, but the message will still be transmitted though more efficient for the people in the society to change their ideas.

The strategy can also lead to the victory of a war in fact most of the people which are widely known that are on the end of the "dark side" all seem to be or have been chess players, is that a coincidence ? . 

Plato's Allegory of the Cave click below
Epicurus Sep 3 '14 · Comments: 1
Epicurus Member

For those of you who read the Satanic Bible, there is the concept of us having an animistic instinct present in us as individuals. It is the philosophy based on earthly things were man and living things are concerned.


There have been people in the course of the past that also gave their own definitions of what the human is. Aristotle was one of them and  looked at humans as a rational and political animal for definition.  He also believed that the public life was much more virtuous than the private one. One can come to the conclusion that, man is also a social animal as opposed to other animals. The animistic instinct is always going to ‘think’ about one’s own interests and in the animal kingdom I agree with Friedrich Nietzsche where he says that ‘survival of the fittest’ hence ‘might is right’ is otherwise correct and we have the rational side too to think before we act.

It is otherwise irrelevant if you are in a political system of socialism, democrats, liberalism, dictatorship. No system is by any means perfect and there are always people who either will be the wisest or else whoever has the majority that will win.

A population can also be utterly ‘stupid’ and ‘ignorant’ or ‘devoid of knowledge’ and still the majority will overpower the rest.

Seeing as individualism is an egocentric thing meaning particularly as ‘I am my own god and I want to find my own path...’ I will try to show the downside of such individualism in favour of the solutions given of the effects of such an individualism.

It’s nice that one feels free, that one has their own authenticity and I encourage it as well however I do not encourage the fact that there could be a tendency for people to be ego-centric and careless from the rest of society. In fact in the topic of love and hate present in the Satanic Bible, La Vey states that you love people that deserve such a response from you "  Therefore, the Satanist believes you should love strongly and completely those who deserve your love"(Satanic Bible).

Individualism could result in instrumental reasoning in the modernised society of today. Instrumental reasoning means that companies amongst them also hotels or factories, increase the production of what they produce, decrease the involvement of people because of the fact that technology is always increasing for the object to work and at the same time decreasing the value of the product being produced  OK there is the fact that there is more work for technical people. I'm talking more on economic factors here that in itself there is the same concept of "might is right" because the company in itself is thinking about it’s own individualism. The same concept is given in politics where politics is the future of a country and is also the future of the same teachings LaVey himself taught here.

I am saying this because one may with their ‘I don’t care thinking’ not care about contributing politically or transmitting their own message out there. So what happens? – A higher level of thinking which is more powerful is more dominant in the society. I am referring to the influence of religion in both the US and European Parliament. If we really want an otherwise secular country or implement the principles of satanic philosophy, we need to out rule the majority with Democracy. Many boast and put up avatars of Friedrich Nietzsche and say out loud that “might is right” but at the same time we are allowing a government to reign and influence the country through their own religion.

The conclusion is that with the same individualism and ego-centric philosophy, one can actually loose their own freedom of expression if we do not willingly participate in the so called Democracy. Now it’s up to you to think over these words and determine the future of Satanic Philosophy.





Epicurus Sep 2 '14 · Tags: authenticity
Epicurus Member

Well being an ex-extreme Christian  who loved the almighty God  I can say that I understand  the mind set of a real Christian.  

When one enter sin that "why"of life for a person who truly loveGod, he will do anything so as not to hurt God.The closer you become to God,the more you will be concious about not sinning and will rebuke lust, because lust is against the spirit.  

Taking  a quote from Jesus himself " But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"- It is a tiny wee bit unrealistic since 'man' is somewhat sexual. Yes one needs to learn the meaning of 'control' in sexuality but it's a bit exaggerated from my own viewpoint. Even though I see nothing wrong about it.

Believe me, you're more likely to end up hypnotized  to  a point  that  when you sin, that sin will grow each time,guilt will increase and more guilt you feel each time the more you will repeat that sin again.   

They say Jesus will set you free because  he already paid for our guilt by dying on the cross to save us all from the Last Judgement. That statement in itself will eventually rest your mind that on the fact that when  you sin you give all the guilt  to Jesus(Note the external being).It's the magic formula that keeps you going and which eventually removethe guilt and allows you to leave everything in God's hand and alas for him to also do the job.   What is the problem of all this ? One can say it is not a problem. But wait what happens when I fall again and again in the same sin?

Is that actually a problem?   Are you really free in that situation? I think the answers to these are a big 'NO'.   It's a no because in that situation one is taking for granted that an external being is solving that habit for you, it does not matter which kind.    

When I started practising the Satanic philosophy I discovered one thing. That it's OK to be guilty, why  is this?Guilt is the inner "voice" that showyou what is right and wrong for you.  So what am I exactly saying here? That you're the one responsible here guilt or not.  

Voilà. There you go,the magic formula for YOU not God not blaming Satan for it.

It's an internal thing not external.  La Veyan Satanism is based on the individuality of the person and YOU meaning that,I have to deal with my stupidity. I am GOD, I am powerful , I can ,  I am , I have got the potential, I decide what is wrong in me. That will increase the potential  in you to believe in yourself anbe what you want  in life.   So  when you are feeling the guilt feeling, meditate on it and ask yourself this: What is my mind and body saying?   

I've got to believe in myself and take responsibility about things myself and also change things myself!  When  you do that you'll see the difference in your life and things will start to make more sense to you.

Ave Satana! 

Epicurus Sep 1 '14 · Tags: psychology, satanistm

From a thinkers & writers perspective

Since people here seem to post their experiences and thoughts I thought it is about time I started posting mine too.

I was indoctrinated to be religious for most of my life. Unlike others I already used to start thinking with my logical perspective. Why things should be as they dictated and so on. Up until the moment was about seven years of age I never had a care in the world except seeking to do what was right and trying to reason out things and of course doing my best to please my family.

My biggest pitfall came at around the age of seven when I lost someone. He was the last person I thought I would loose, I prayed to 'God' desperately to bring him back to me, as my family told me it was the only thing I could do....well I was wrong. I concluded that if God really cared, the God they preached to me about then he would have never allowed it.

I was torn and tormented bound by a promise I had made to him before his death that I intended ( and still do) to maintain. But I didn't know evil marked, I was so enveloped in my own misery my key point was solely - survival. How it mattered was of little importance to me.

I met someone a few years later, someone who was at my father's funeral, someone who knew what I had been through, someone who knew my mother from an early age, someone who bought my families trust and loyalty, someone who would change life's meaning and someone who destroyed me in most ways I thought were impossible - Ironically enough, he was supposed to be a man of God, however weakened by his own obsessions.

I was ten. I didn't know much about life, nor the world, my family kept me innocent, pure and uncorrupted. I had to go to secondary school and go to PSD classes to actually understand 'something' of what was really going on.

I became a rebel. I tormented anyone who dared to oppose me, I stood up to my bullies. If I got slapped, I wouldn't make a whole scene of it I would just accept it and move on. It urged my bullies to go on but they never had the essence to really break me.

Whilst I was tormented and living in my dark and twisted little world, I even laughed at my friends because they were viewed as pathetic in my eyes. Pathetic because of their innocence.

However, I did have a very close friend. She never pressed me for what was going on with me, her simple friendly gestures just grounded me. They gave me a reason to not be completely corrupted and devoured by the darker side of me.

Now one would ask me. Why didn't you talk ask for help? He was  a man of God. He knew what he was doing because he never left enough bodily proof of what he did to me, he never allowed himself to do that mistake. My family looked at him as though he was almost their savior and there was little I could do, especially because he sad if I talked he would take everything I ever loved. My mother being one of them. He also worked within the higher ranks of the Church the Church was regarded almost higher than law back then. Fear when dominant can lead you to conceal anything -so long as it allows you to protect those who you love and care for.

When I was thirteen the frustration, tension, emotional and psychological chaos began getting at me. My religious faith went down to zero. I challenged anyone who dared to prove me otherwise. I met a fair few decent people but it never inspired me enough to radically change. Darkness got a hold of itself and I began actually practicing it, looking for it's deeper meaning and indulging in things barely any teenager should ever do.

Me and a few friends decided to play the Ouija board and I laughed all the way telling them it was amusing how imagination could evoke such interesting things thus turning them into reality. Nah. That was not what I was looking for, but it opened my mind to start searching and likewise I did.

But whilst I was searching, the key came to me. Someone handed me Anton Szanzor LaVey's Satanic Bible and I knew it would change me in more than one way.

But I was still interested in the spiritualistic aspects of it so I investigated deeper into occultism.

By the time I was fifteen I was so dark, tormented and depressed I barely cared for my own existence any longer. I just did what I had to, to survive and I did what I could to keep my promise.

Obviously I built my own standards and belief, doubted in almost everything and didn't care much for anything or anyone. I had had more than enough by then.

Luckily I never resorted to the use of drugs. But I did get drunk a few times just to get rid of some memories that were haunting me.

I had migraines almost all the time, people thought I was making it up no one made an effort to understand me, so instead of opening up and trying to find a solution I literally closed down.

From the moment I was sixteen up until I was seventeen I met someone who inspired me enough to divert my route of choice. I tried, I did it to the best of my abilities. I became Christian again, I read the bible, prayed and was pretty much ok with what was going on even though judgment from my family did not help me much.

I was definitely much happier, people who knew me asked me what the hell happened to me, because the spark of radiance, love and joy was there. They didn't see the darker side of me that they were so accustomed to.

I stripped away all objects related to occultism , evil and Satanism I chose God iin my life, I even baptized myself in his name to confirm it and I lived his word to the best, attended charismatic services, helped and prayed with others...

But clearly there was something that wasn't balanced. There was something that wanted to remind me who I was what I REALLY was, and that I actually belonged to darkness.

The experience as horrific as much as it was enlightening, up unto this day after consulting with experts AND researching non stop I'm not fully sure what it was, no was I alone.I've witnesses to this story but that is up to you to believe not for me to indoctrinate you about it. I know it changed, me once again. I began doubting in everything I was taught, my rebel nature began to kick in again, and I was returning back to the person I originally was.

Now because I unluckily have what we all 'repressed memory' I have only flashes of what actually occurred to me. What I concluded was that I was all mind generated that it was a mental breakdown because of the confusion going n my mind between choosing the path of darkness or the path of light. Clearly God wasn't there in all the suffering and pain I had to endue and inflict on others unintentionally. I'm not proud of it, but I'm glad to say that I rose up from my own ashes, from the dust I myself created and resurfaced as something stronger, something more real, with a story to share and with a lesson to teach.

Today I can say I'm free. I'm an atheist that built her own philosophy and belief based on knowledge and past experience.

I favor logic and knowledge over spirituality and useless trifling methods to lead oneself into possible insanity. I thrive for knowledge learn and exchange experiences with others.

Last and foremost -I believe in myself and what I allowed myself to be.


Vold3mortia Aug 31 '14 · Comments: 4
Zach Black Owner
I encourage you all to create groups. They are intended to be for meeting people in your area. So Try to narrow it down to Areas within a state or country. Like within a few hundred mile radius.

I also encourage everyone to join a group and use it.
Zach Black Aug 16 '14 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 5 · Tags: satanic international network
Fascinating article on the psychology of marketing pop songs.

Music Companies are Brainwashing You to Like Bad Pop Songs

Shawn Aug 7 '14 · Comments: 6 · Tags: marketing, psychology, music, pop music
Zach Black Owner
I have a sushi chef interview tomorrow. I am hoping for the job. But, I am not gonna hold my breath. Japanese owned. And my experience is not all that great with Japanese chefs. For many reasons. Japanese chefs tend to be racist. Many turn their nose up to white chefs. Some Jap chefs feel that white chefs have Americanized sushi. Which is true we did. Although I am trained in both traditional and American style. Also I am left handed. Which is frowned upon. Left handed people in Japan are largely consider to be evil and or retarded. And my strike three is my tattoos. In Japan people with tattoos are usually criminals. So, I am a white, evil, retarded criminal in the mind of many Japanese chefs. Oh well.

Zach Black Aug 5 '14 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 15 · Tags: zach black, satanic international network
Troll Member
As a Satanist, every context which i enter into i watch for demonizing. It is part of what i have identified as a principle of my Satanism that i support the underdog, engage what i consider to be a discipline of martyrdom which emphasizes the identification by abused, dualistic slanders, legitimating them through direct contrary, benefic action in association to their name. To me this is the spirit that runs through all the cults prior to and posterior to the Satanic in the Left Hand Path as it has developed during the course of the last century above ground and by name.

The internet is, where i have ventured, a topic-identified terrain. Every one of these allowed for the possibility of identifying a new "Evil", a new "Wrong", and a new dualistic condemnation into which i might fit myself. The first primary choice on my part was within my occult order. I had read many of the works of the occult author Aleister Crowley and noted with distaste that he had engaged a dualistic rant against those whom he termed 'Black Brothers', the 'Fratribus Nigris' as i reflected on it. I notice additionally that my kin within that order (the O.T.O.) were applying this to those whom they saw as rivals, of 'doing things the Wrong way', and generally whom they condemned. I realized at that time that my name within that order would need to be 'Black Brother', and out of sympathy for the condemned (and a touch of bad Latin) i aspired to attain to the exalted aims of the Thelemite while i chose as my initiated name 'nigris', later discovering its numerological value of 333, a resonance with the Demon of the Abyss, Choronzon, and many other things.

One of the defining characteristics of this Abysmal Demon (333) is a multifaceted identity or polyfaciae, at times associated to dispersal and psychosis. Whereas my aims were always the same and subsequent self-identifiers in qabalistic (hara), Muslim (Haramullah), Wiccan (Lorax666 of the Evul Wikkhunz), and Satanist (boboroshi, nocTifer) contexts have to me and those i know resolved to a single coherent center, consistently i have been opposed by those who took surface for content, label and packaging for what and who i am, and those who want to use labels and names to castigate and berate others in juvenile ways.

My conversion to Satanism (i wasn't born into any religion) primarily oriented in opposition to what i regarded as a lux-o-philic and anti-darkness bias exercised by Hermetic and Neo-Gnostic occultists interested in escalating Lucifer to a high status, while casting the rest into ignorance, such that even this alternative name for Venus remained forgotten. I forged my pact with Satanas Paternas, wrote my scripture, and summoned demons all under the name 'nocTifer' or 'bringer of darkness'. My time as part of the Church of Euthanasia, a fanciful escalation of Satanism as i understood it, detracted little from this, and when that ecclesia dissolved around me i was content to resume that darkness-oriented identity.

As i began to understand the media developments within Satanism, watching several 'shells' of technical venues left abandoned by users (including at first alt.satanism in a flight to protection, then in several series of moderated venues with new technological presentations, such as yahoogroups, googlegroups, and then waves of web-boards), and the replication of media form through time emphasized by availability of broadcast (text, sound, video), it became obvious to me that my prediction from the 1990s that the internet would compete with, and then completely replace, television (which i generally dislike) would come to pass, and that semi-interactive novelties such as and (YT) were the sonic and videographic landscapes, respectively, into which a good part of intelligent discourse was headed after having fled from IRC and usenet long ago.

I trailed Satanism through boards, and was intrigued to find it making innovative appearance in YT. Due to my disciplines and observations of social repercussions, i avoided YT as i had avoided photographs and film for more than 2 decades. When i met Beast Xeno in IRC (one of these former 'wild zones' for chat: a moderated subset of it) he exposed me in greater depth to something i'd already known about from Venger Satanis: the Cult of Cthulhu. Though it related to the mystical works of Gurdjieff, the outstanding horror of Lovecraft, and somehow tried to twist itself around a form of Satanism ostensibly distended out of LaVey, i had heretofore avoided it on account of the corrosive methods taken by Crazy Wisdom teachers like Gurdjieff and Rajneesh. That Beast liked it was intriguing, and i found his friendship inspiring enough to seek out his writings interior to that private web board (another reason i'd avoided it - its privacy). I would go on to assist their efforts somewhat in the Cult, interact with a number of its other members, and become recognized as a Keeper of the Green Flame therein.

That was odd enough and fun, but something that i hadn't expected was his radio show with Venger Satanis, called 'The Ooze'. It was new technology to me, even though my guru had a student who was a professional radio producer and DJ, they'd been doing a show together for years, and i would later replace him operating the sound board for more recent versions of that show unto this day. Encountering The Ooze was intriguing, and gave me incentive to follow Beast into another project he indicated to me he had a strong part in producing: the Satanic International Network (S.I.N.). It was just beginning, and as i explored it and the people involved with it (finding out as much as i could about Zach Black, for example, in order to integrate him, along with Beast and Venger, into the references on well-known Satanists i have maintained), i began to realize how 'out' its participants were in YouTube (YT). That there was some emphasis on cameras in the Tinychat there, and presentation of footage of this once or twice to YT by Zach was noted by me in my estimation of its character.

At some point i undertook to explore, and noticed that the intense reaction i had received in regards my appearance was enhanced and doubly-strong amongst the conservatives who frequented it ("Osama! Are you going to bomb us?!"). I understood fairly quickly that this was a reproduction of usenet and IRC but in videographic media, and that YT was a fair but private replication of usenet. At that point the sequential development of media became clear to me, and shortly thereafter i had a vision of engaging YT while preserving my vow of humility (with some suggestions from my guru): I could wrap my face and take on a proper pseudonym. My brief exposures to YT through association with my good friend Venus Satanas made it clear to me what the "Wrong", "Evil" and condemned class of individuals within it were called: trolls. This became so obvious that the term was now abused so as to refer to anyone whose position or expression one did not like.

I knew that, like in every other venue (topical), i needed to self-identify properly so as to pursue my practice of Satanism as i understood it. In the Satanic and YT contexts i pinpointed my nickname therein: Troll Towelhead. The surname was amusing and yet proper in that i had been given a Turkish turban to wear and a religious office to occupy and maintain (Grand Mufti of Satanism) by my guru, and these were perfect for my purposes in opposing an obvious anti-Muslim supplement to the anti-satanism of the 1990s. I saw this carry also into the Satanic subculture, striking alongside a willingness to accept fascism and bigotted stupidity of many sorts, ostensibly in the name of 'embracing evil' or 'self-development'.

The first name, however, was so thrilling, so exciting to me on account of its multi-valence, that i could barely contain myself. What a discovery! This wasn't just applicable to YT, but to every internet venue! The future of internet Satanism as i knew it! Its character in relation to how intellectuals who dispute against and reveal uncomfortable features in faulty logic or philosophic discourse were slandered with the name was precisely what i'd observed as regards the term 'sophist' amongst some philosophers. Popular cynical Satanists repeatedly mentioned the term and its use for castigation was precisely what i seek out in topical contexts as facile and chilling.

The secondary dimension to the first name 'Troll' was in part what thrilled me the most, since i have for many years studied magic, and have more and more strongly began to focus on folk magic and its materia magica (something my guru loves in relation to African American culture and encourages the world over).

A fellow student of my guru who apprenticed with her here for weeks is also a fan of The Devil (particularly Der Teufyll, the Woods God/god(s)). While he was here we had long talks about demonology and its intersection with wild nature, trying to come to some kind of understanding of the God Satan and its relation to magic and my scripture. We discussed my scripture and my general method, and he began a newfound interest in the folk magic of his own Swedish homeland. He went back to Sweden and after numerous social adventures and turns of fate dug deeply to discover the details of the folk magic of his homeland. Our projects and studies have been intertwined ever since, and he discovered that the word for folk magic (/witchcraft) in Swedish lore is "trolldom", and that trolls are another name for magic user!! The whole folkloric beast-complex in part centers on the fact that these are elder wild folks who know something of magic. For a person to call themselves a troll is to effectively proclaim their occultism. This is a correlate to 'witch' in multiplex fashion.

Doing a search online (primarily on YT) i reminded myself that the original usage for the term 'troll' and 'trolling' relate to VERBS not nouns, and that it pertains to fishing: casting out baiting expressions and seeking indisciplined responses with the hopes of manipulating and hoaxing (landing) a 'Big One'. Everything after this has been a castigation (at times quite amusing!) of monsters on the order of vampires or werewolves or demons (see my "Manifesto Satanika" for more on the development of these in modern religious history, from witches to satanists, then on to vampires, werewolves and demons, epitomizing in what i predicted in the form of Lovecraftian monsters and the Cult).

When i decided to take the name Troll for YT i wondered what i might want to do about the S.I.N., especially since its owner and several of those who were part of it were also heavily involved in YT, and there was such an emphasis on visuals within the tinychat people had remarked about being popular therein. I decided that its emphasis was such, and the style of interaction (contenteous, focussed on by some as 'crushing haters' and 'exterminating bullshit') was such, that this YT pseudonym was far better than 'nocTifer' (which a number now began to misidentify as 'noctifier', probably due to the small font on the site). I knew that this would be controversial, but given the trust i had in Beast in particular, and in Zach, i choose S.I.N. (1.0) to become the origin and proving grounds to make that change for my Satanism, and to make it permanently. It was the best decision i ever made.

This was not without forethought, and not without a long history of socially-transformative engagements i sought out in pursuit of martyrdom as i have understood it (not death seeking, but virtuous witness of truth from a position of condemnation to tyrannical power). I decided to try it out regardless of the consequences, and begin to enter into chat and the forums as i was moved by compassion, defending love and comradery, society and bonding friendships.

I saw the attention being paid to cynical and biting Satanists who spoke in gaming terms of 'pwning', and who made frequent mention of trolls. I tried to reflect a pure and perfect complement to it, emphasizing another pole in what i think of as a neo-tantric apex, and proceeded to argue in favour of tolerance, criticizing manipulators and bullies (even real trollers!).

Generally i made little effort to conceal my identity, though i occasionally distracted away from my person, location, or background with fiction. I wanted, instead, the focus to be the topics of our conversations, and i said little also about my witnessing interests, the background of trolls i'd discovered, or the Great Martyrdom Cult of which i think we are all part, and whose little eddy in a Satanic sandbox i was part of creating.

At first i was accused by one or more of its moderators of nefarious and false motivations, behaviours, as i had expected might occur, and this brought with it the deletion of my account more than once in S.I.N. (1.0). Yet my allies running the board quickly understood my heart and motivations, the style and substance of my Satanism, and how i was bringing it even to the very heart of Satanism, and eventually reinstated me, more than once.

Since then i've gone on to make a very good name for myself, my title, for Demonic Satanism in the commentary and publishing of The Gospel of Satan and continued service to Satanists and Satan, extending en toto some 17 years and developing into a personal relationship with the Devil himself.

I'm very happy to have returned to S.I.N. (2.0), resumed my Troll account here, and look forward to establishing new friendships as well as to rekindle old ones in a fresh, and more friendly, environment.

Assalam alaykum and BLVD!,

Troll the Unvanquished
dick skeet

“can you make me a list of good, knowledgeable left-hand path *satanic* books?”

Just received this Facebook DM a moment ago.

To me,

this is a very PROFOUND question;

one that goes WAY beyond any “list” I could possibly make.

CAN- are you able to?

YOU- me, my rational self: objective and subjective.

MAKE- manifest, conjure, create, communicate.

ME- My target audience, a Facebook friend with his own ideas, beliefs, etc…

A LIST- a compilation of books leading to enlightenment for him, my target audience.

GOOD- well written, authoritative, definitive.

LEFT HAND PATH- definition of which would be his

SATANIC- of or pertaining to satan.

Implied in his question:

can you make me a list which if I read it will give me what I am TRULY seeking:


XXXX being HIS personal definition of enlightenment.

XXXX- money, power, sex, etc…

My answer: YES.



if YOU want MY LIST,

it’s gonna come with some explanation,


the LIST in itself will do YOU no good.

Where to begin?

When I was in high school,

I joined the wrestling team.

One of the first moves all wrestlers learn:

the half nelson. 

A half nelson is an effective way of turning an opponent onto his back.

Excitedly we learned the move,

and used the move.


we learned how to counter the half nelson;

(it’s easy to counter.)

As a result,

a half nelson became a move that was only effective against someone inexperienced;

useless against an experienced opponent.

Many wrestlers give up on the half nelson.

I never did;

made it work fairly well.

In my second year I learned how to wrestle freestyle.

High school wrestling is folkstyle,

freestyle is another form,

slightly more dangerous.

I wanted to learn freestyle primarily because it gave me competition in the off season.


I had a new mentor,

this old bastard named Joe.


crusty old guy,

tough as nails,

mean as a snake.

In his youth he had gone to the olympics.

During the first day of practice,

he wanted to show us how to do a half nelson.

Many laughed.

Everyone in the room was experienced,

most in the gym had given up on the move.

Although no one said it,


many in the room felt the half nelson a WORTHLESS move. 

Joe: “Why did you laugh?”

A kid named Sean replied,

“I think everyone laughed because we all know the half nelson;

it doesn’t work.”

Joe: “Let me show you how to make it work.”

Joe proceeded to demonstrate his VARIATION of the power half nelson…

Joe: “The way to make a half nelson work is with pain.

If your opponent feels physical pain,

they will BEND to your will.”

Joe demonstrated how to get leverage on the opponent;

to put so much PRESSURE on an opponent’s head and neck:

they had no choice but to turn, (YIELD).


in that spirit,

the spirit of giving you something you can actually fucking USE,

something that actually fucking WORKS,

I give you MY list.


wait a minute.

I skipped a step.

You see I could give you a list,

and all the reasons why,


if you don’t trust ME,

don’t feel I’m an AUTHORITY,

my list won’t work for you.

Who the FUCK am I?

I’m THAT guy.

I earned a bunch of money using “satanic” knowledge.

Why am I telling you this?

To impress you?

IDGAF about impressing you.

Who the fuck are you?

My goal in writing this is for SELFISH reasons.

You see,

i’ve made my money;

I’m fucking set.

I’ve got my pussy;

in abundance,

on tap.

ANYTHING I desire:

I create,


manifest with ease.

My SELFISH goals:

1. To help YOU make it to the next level.


Because that makes my dick hard,

to see someone put my knowledge to their benefit makes me happy.

2. To become a SUCCESSFUL author.

Last month over 1000 copies of my books were downloaded,

I want more.

If I can help you,

even for FREE,

you WILL help me.

3. To create something I’m proud of,

a blog post that hopefully you read and benefits others.

Wait a minute.

Hold on.

I can hear some of you mumbling,

“You don’t sound Satanic.”


Why did Lavey write HIS book?

Open up HIS church?

What is SATANIC?

My definition:



for the purpose of making yourself more POWERFUL. 


“Rational Selfishness” as codified by Ayn Rand in The Virtue of Selfishness. 

In essence,

the core of Satanic thought:

that which benefits the self.


from this BASE,

what are the best SATANIC books?


I could talk about books on majik,

usually written by lunatics and drug addicts.


if you want to be like them,

there’s the door,

don’t let it hit you on the vagina on the way out. 

Am I saying to only read books by people whom you want to EMULATE?



success leaves clues,

as does failure.

When you read anyone’s work,

keep your BRAIN ON,

if it makes sense:

try it.

If it works:

use it. 

If you want SUCCESS:




the DESIRES of your heart;

let me SUGGEST another "satanic" LIST.

The first book I’d suggest is:

The Tao of Jeet Kune Do.

This is a book about martial arts,


it’s also a philosophy about the quest for ENLIGHTENMENT.

The thesis:

Do not be afraid to look anywhere for knowledge.

Learn ALL you can,

accept what WORKS for YOU.

if you apply THIS THESIS to ANYTHING you will become a MASTER,


If you wanted to teach someone how to fight,

what would be your first lesson?

Imagine it.

What would your first class look like?

Now imagine your first day of class,

Jonah Hill,

the fat one in Superbad shows up:

did you prepare the right lesson?


a fat,

out of shape,

white bread,

Twinkie eating ball of mush REQUIRES a different lesson,

than someone who’s big and strong,


short and fast.

Once you accept that mastery REQUIRES carving your OWN path,

finding your OWN way,


I’d suggest reading the following with a CRITICAL eye.

To repeat:

When you read ANYONE’S work,

keep your BRAIN ON,

if it makes sense:

try it.

If it works:

use it.

To finish my introductory list of SATANIC books,

I’d suggest reading ALL the following:

Ayn Rands works:

Atlas Shrugged

The Fountainhead

The Virtue of Selfishness


This is the core of OBJECTIVISM,

the philosophy of SELFISHNESS.


to finish off my list:

The Richest Man In Babylon.

Think and Grow Rich.

Rich Dad Poor Dad.

How to Win Friends and Influence People.

The Greatest Salesman in the World.

Anthony Robbins Personal Power 2.

To me,

this is a good STARTING point.

See where it leads.

PS: I've written "SATANIC" books as well.

dick skeet Aug 5 '14 · Comments: 2

All scientific research taken as a whole is an attempt to reverse engineer the universe.


Reverse engineering, as you might suspect, is the reverse of engineering. 

Engineering is the art and science of creating something which performs a function: you need to hold up the weight of a bridge so you engineer a column with the right width and depth to hold the weight you need at the proper height.

Reverse engineering is the art and science of determining the structure which performs a function: you see the the bridge, know that something needs to hold it up, then look below and lo and behold there's a column. ( If you were monkey-wrenching, you'd then proceed to blow it up and see if the bridge comes down, but that's another post. )

There are two flavors of reverse engineering -- 'open box' and 'black box'. 

Open box reverse engineering is where you can see directly see the structure, either by looking directly at it or by having some other kind of direct perception -- a microscope, radio telescope, fMRI -- you get the picture.

In this kind of reverse engineering, you can just observe whatever it is in action and if necessary do some simple tinkering directly with it's structure to figure out how it works.

Black box reverse engineering refers to working with structure you can't see and have to work with it indirectly. (And this, my friends, is where it starts to get really fun. )

The academic black box is just a black box with any number of inputs and any number of outputs, usually pictured like this:

Inputs ---> [Black Box] ---> Outputs

In this post, I'm going to cover some well known black boxes which have only outputs. I'll cover inputs in a later post, because my main objective here is to give a clear idea about what a black box exactly is.

Astrophysicists mainly work with black boxes simply for the fact that most of what they study are at least several light years away and so there's no way to get to what they're studying and even if they did, it's impossible to get a look inside something like a star or a black hole.

Instead, they study the outputs of their black boxes, outputs like the qualities of light coming from a white dwarf and the gravitational pull of a black hole. 

( Actually, in the second case, it's a long chain of outputs. Since they can't measure the gravitational pull of a black hole they measure the mass and speed of the stars orbiting it. Since they can't directly do that, they measure the qualities of the light coming from those stars. The chain looks like this :

Light from the stars indicate

-- their mass and speed of orbit which indicate

---- the mass of the black hole [box] which indicates

------ something about the structure of the black hole itself )

In other cases, like the study of geologists, the black box doesn't exist as one whole thing in one place but as a series of processes over time, but luckily the outputs (rocks) are easy to study. For example, a geologist can look at a rock and tell you it was initially formed in a volcano, then moved by glaciers where it wound up under the sea for a few thousand years, finally to find itself in a desert, where you found it and brought it to him. ( If there's anything that geologists like to see it's not a new kind of rock, but an indicator of a process they haven't seem before. )

My favorite black box is the human mind. Everything someone says or does is an output, and as Banachek pointedly pointed out: "you can't not communicate". This leads into some seriously fun 'lesser magic' involving outputs few people pay attention to ( not body language, but that's fun too. ), but I'll have to leave that for another post.

Shawn Aug 3 '14 · Comments: 2 · Tags: mad science, reverse engineering, black box


Or, some things I consider the core skills and knowledge of that thing I sometimes refer to as 'mad science'.


Reverse Engineering is a way of learning from experience. It's an application of the core scientific method to whatever thing you want to reverse engineer.

This isn't as amazing as it sounds. Just about everything scientists do under the name of "research" is an act of reverse engineering and anyone who learns primarily by "trial and error" uses the scientific method by virtue of their experimental approach ( contrasted by the method of repeatedly banging one's head against a wall ).

So, what I'm really talking about when I talk about reverse engineering is something that people tend to do anyway. The difference is that most people don't apply the skill to itself -- in other words, reverse engineer reverse engineering.

Why do that in the first place? Well, I'm glad that I imagined that you asked.  And the answer is -- the same reason anyone would want to reverse engineer anything -- to figure out how it works and improve or learn how to use or do it better. For me, it's all about getting better at what I do, and I see just about everything from either a reverse engineering / system hacking viewpoint. ( This is my blessing and curse,  folks. Like Crowley said the reason you learn about Magick is because you can't help but do it anyway, so the only real choice you have is to be a good at it, or bad at it. So, well... )

A related skill is monkey-wrenching, which is reverse engineering something by breaking it in ever more creative ways. ( And I do love the monkey-wrenching, as the only rules that matter...)


A system is anything which is composed of different parts where those parts interact with each other in a way that each part of the system has an effect on the entire system. It requires a kind of thinking where you are looking through a microscope through one eye and the thing itself as a whole with the other.

For example, the flaps on the wing of an airplane cause the entire airplane to turn, and if the landing gear of an airplane were to fall off in flight, the entire plan would crash.

Hacking is simply getting a system to do something it doesn't normally do, and possibly hasn't ever done, but something it's capable of doing according to it's structure.

If someone were to hijack something on a plane which made an electric spark, say the wires of the bathroom light, and somehow fed it into the plane's fuel tank -- then it would be a reasonable assumption that the plane would explode when someone turned on the bathroom light. This isn't something planes are generally designed to do and it's something they typically don't do but it's something that it's capable of doing 'according to it's structure.'


Cybernetics is the science of steersmanship, in other words, the science of controlling systems, and the foundation of whatever process which allows a system to do something on it's own. ( It's also the difference between a mere machine and a system, at least in my opinion. Though you'll often hear me refer to such things as rocks as systems. I'll explain later. :) ) 

The autopilot of an airplane is essentially cybernetic. It needs to know where it's going and keep it on course as the wind blows the airplane off course. If the airplane gets blown to the right, the autopilot turns the airplane back to the left -- not to degree it was blown right, but to the degree it's off course.

So, you could say that anything cybernetic is also intelligent to some degree, at least while performing the function it was designed for. The thermostat of a house is cybernetic -- it's good at keeping the house at a constant temperature but terrible at math.

The essential function of a cybernetic system is regulation, and this is where Mad Science becomes Mad Philosophy and more importantly, Mad Psychology -- as self-regulating creatures, we humans are a cybernetic system.

Additional Note: The legitimate reason I can call a rock is a system is because when you pick one up it becomes involved in your 'systemness' and you become it's cybernetic element. Systems are plastic like that: two people talking form one system.  The real reason I call things like rocks a system is because I'm lazy.


The definition of hypnosis is different depending on who you ask, even among skilled hypnotists. The reasons for this is legion, but I think I've found a way to explain hypnosis in a way that anyone can understand.

The main problem with hypnosis is the confusion between the hypnotic process and what is generally thought of as the 'hypnotic state.' 

The so-called hypnotic state is just a state where the hypnotic process can be the most effective. It's like that position martial arts experts contrive to get someone into so they can demonstrate their 'talent' -- any 'off-balance' state will do, but the cliche is to get a volunteer to thrust a knife at them, which not only gets the job done in getting them off balance but the outstretched arm also gives the martial art 'expert' an easy handle to use.

The way this position is similar to the hypnotic state is that anyone can throw anyone once they have their opponent in this convenient off-balance position ( which I'm told never happens in a real fight ). Similarly, the hypnotic state it's easy for hypnotists to do what they do, but it's a state that almost never happens in real life except in very specific circumstances.

The hypnotic state is a deep state of suggestibility in which the critical mind has been shut off. It's very similar to a dreaming state where no matter what happens, no matter how strange, you just go along with it; if you are dreaming that you're at home, walk through a door, and suddenly find yourself in a movie theater, well, that's just normal.

What makes the hypnotic state so useful to hypnotists are three things --

1) the subject is passive

2) the subject's critical mind is shut off

3) the subject's imagination is on overdrive

With a subject in this state all a hypnotist has to do is speak a narrative which the subject can passively follow along with.

All forms of experience which require someone to become passive to it are naturally hypnotic. Most forms of entertainment these days are hypnotic in this way -- movies and television are the most hypnotic for the masses, reading books is the most hypnotic -- you probably won't believe it -- for those that make the best hypnotic subjects.

In the days before mass media, the rhythmic beating of a drum and the swaying of movement worked well. The swaying of dance and the swaying of a boat along the waves are equally as hypnotic.

Believe it or not, a roller coaster is a hypnotic device -- it requires it's riders to become passive to it and go along for the ride. 'Keep your hands in the coaster' and 'you must be this tall to take this ride' part of it's induction method.

So, there's the hypnotic state and the process of hypnosis. With the hypnotic state defined as I've defined it here, the hypnotic process is the process of directing someone's experience, and that's about all it really is.

Shawn Jul 29 '14 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 14 · Tags: hypnosis, psychology, lesser magic
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